Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum

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**Alfndrate**

Aerethan wrote:
Alfndrate wrote:
I saw that too, it could be as simple as another Stephanie Hernandez gettin stalked by an ex bf or something. Could it relate to this? Yeah, but we.don't have any evidence since it doesn't list the known suspect.

Edit: I'm an idiot... I have a message from Jason
.. Stephanie and Kim are one in the same her name is Stephanie Kimberly Hernandez, she at least dated Daniel... *flies* to the Google maps!

screen shots? direct quote? I am need details!

I emailed it to your hot mail, I can't upload and link it atm. You're free to do so.

**SilverMK2**

Someone needs to do some kind of interactive timeline... even before this outing I was having trouble keeping track of everything

**d-usa**

Yeah, just looking back a year there are 4 police reports for Stephanie Hernandez with everyone having a different age.

**Aerethan**

Well we have the right "Kim". Confirmation that Kim is actually Stephanie, and is the same Stephanie from Susan's obit page.

We have no reason to believe that Daniel is out of the picture here.

NOTE: these uploaded in the wrong order, read bottom up.

**alarmingrick**

MagickalMemories wrote:
Very minor quibble... but I want to set it straight (even if I'm the one who is incorrect).

@ MT11
You said "Matt Bonder's" "Wife" died, then his "daughter" did.

I have one statement of correction and one question on it.

1) It wasn't a daughter. It was a Son. I remember this specifically, as the "Son" was named Erin (this is how he spelled the son's name). I remember that specifically, as [a] I have a daughter with that name and [b] wondered, but did not ask -as I was a believer at that time- why he spelled it like a girl's name.

2) Question... Didn't "Matt" lose his "Son" then his "Wife" in the stories he told? I could be misremembering, but that is how I THOUGHT it went.

Don't want to be pedantic... but the guy will latch on any inaccuracy to show how we are "lying," and I want to be sure that the record is correctly reflected.

Thanks.

Eric

You're 100% spot on!
The character Matthew Bonder killed off the character of Erin his son, then the character of Sarah, his wife. I want to say it was around 4 months between Erin's fake death, before Sarah's fake diagnosis.

**d-usa**

I am sure they can explain why PayPal send emails with two different names then...

**Inquisitor S.**

What new does this tell us? Apart from RF's attempt to justify why on one paypal document it says Kim, on the other Stephanie? Bit confused

**Aerethan**

I don't recall paypal needing SS numbers or a DL, though it's been a while.

I also know that I've never gotten a paypal email with a name other than mine on it, nor do they know my middle name.

Also, if Stephanie goes by Kim, then why did she sign her Obit post as Stephanie?

**Alfndrate**

Aerethan wrote:
I don't recall paypal needing SS numbers or a DL, though it's been a while.

I also know that I've never gotten a paypal email with a name other than mine on it, nor do they know my middle name.

Also, if Stephanie goes by Kim, then why did she sign her Obit post as Stephanie?

When I wanted to link my bank account to my PayPal I had to send tj that stuff.

**fullheadofhair**

Ok, I am really confused. This is all very elaborate etc and takes a lot of effort to set up each time it happens. Is there really that amount of money involved to justify this amount of effort? I don't get it.

**Aerethan**

Really? I've linked my wife's account to my paypal and all they wanted was the account, routing, and then the verified test amounts that they send you(like 3 or 4 cents twice).

Then again my paypal account is 9 years old, so perhaps I've just forgotten having to add those details at some point.

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fullheadofhair wrote:
Ok, I am really confused. This is all very elaborate etc and takes a lot of effort to set up each time it happens. Is there really that amount of money involved to justify this amount of effort? I don't get it.

Perhaps the money isn't what he's chasing. Perhaps he's using these ventures as ways to get his own models for free. You'd be surprised the lengths some people will go to for free crap.

My money is more along the lines of Daniel being a sociopath who thrives on running these lies until the bubble pops and then he gets to start all over. Some people have way too much time on their hands.

**Platuan4th**

Aerethan wrote:
Really? I've linked my wife's account to my paypal and all they wanted was the account, routing, and then the verified test amounts that they send you(like 3 or 4 cents twice).

Then again my paypal account is 9 years old, so perhaps I've just forgotten having to add those details at some point.

They only ask you for it if you want to send money to Paypal from a bank/credit union account to your Paypal account without any sort of transaction. You can do everything else without that information.

I've had my current Paypal account since 2002-2003 and had never been asked until just recently when I wanted to add funds in that manner.

**Aerethan**

I see, I've never added funds to Paypal. I've always done direct transfer from my bank or credit card to the seller through paypal.

**Rorschach9**

Platuan4th wrote:
Aerethan wrote:
Really? I've linked my wife's account to my paypal and all they wanted was the account, routing, and then the verified test amounts that they send you(like 3 or 4 cents twice).

Then again my paypal account is 9 years old, so perhaps I've just forgotten having to add those details at some point.

They only ask you for it if you want to send money to Paypal from a bank/credit union account to your Paypal account without any sort of transaction. You can do everything else without that information.

I've had my current Paypal account since 2002-2003 and had never been asked until just recently when I wanted to add funds in that manner.

I was not even asked when doing exactly that.

In fact, I have 2 paypal accounts (one personal, several years old, and one business account that is one year old) and in neither case did I have to enter such information. Simply bank account/credit card information for verification. I could have, quite frankly, used any name I wanted.

**Platuan4th**

Aerethan wrote:
I see, I've never added funds to Paypal. I've always done direct transfer from my bank or credit card to the seller through paypal.

Yep. They'll pull the funds just fine. There's no requirement for just sending money or paying. It's only when you want Paypal Funds on hand.

@Rorschach, that's very strange. When did you start doing it? I'm still in the process of clearing things up precisely because my account uses a nickname that isn't on any ID I have and they asked for it when I attempted to add funds from my bank. Also, have you ever attempted to just ADD funds from an account, not pay a transaction/send money?

**Rorschach9**

Platuan4th wrote:
Aerethan wrote:
I see, I've never added funds to Paypal. I've always done direct transfer from my bank or credit card to the seller through paypal.

Yep. They'll pull the funds just fine. There's no requirement for just sending money or paying. It's only when you want Paypal Funds on hand.

@Rorschach, that's very strange. When did you start doing it?

The first time I transferred funds from my account to paypal (to have paypal funds on hand) was about 2 years ago. The last time was just last week.

**kronk**

Getting off topic, I think.

**Rorschach9**

kronk wrote:
Getting off topic, I think.

Indeed. For probably the past 2 pages +.

**Platuan4th**

Rorschach9 wrote:
Platuan4th wrote:
Aerethan wrote:
I see, I've never added funds to Paypal. I've always done direct transfer from my bank or credit card to the seller through paypal.

Yep. They'll pull the funds just fine. There's no requirement for just sending money or paying. It's only when you want Paypal Funds on hand.

@Rorschach, that's very strange. When did you start doing it?

The first time I transferred funds from my account to paypal (to have paypal funds on hand) was about 2 years ago. The last time was just last week.

Just noticed your flag, I think I found the reason.

From Paypal when I log in: "Before we can offer you certain products and services, federal regulations require that we collect specific information to verify your identity. This information includes your name, address, date of birth, and National Tax ID or Social Security number."

As in US Federal Regulations(from reading further, it's a pretty long page, don't want to post it all). That's not something a Canadian would necessarily be held to.

As for relevance to topic: If the account is verified in that way, as required by federal regulations, then it means two things: This is Stephanie Kim's Account and she's using it or someone else is using it to hide behind her name, which could be fraud and identity theft if used without her permission.

And no, I'm not saying either, both, or none of those possibilities is allegedly happening.

**Flippa**

MajorTom11 wrote:
I still have my suspicions... if Mandelbaum and Stepha-Kim are divorced... it is not out of the realm of possibility that he is using her credentials to sneak under the radar...

I know Stephanie exists, I just don't believe 'Kim' is her. I wish someone could reach out to the real one to make sure she actually knows about all this in a non-sketchy, non-threatening way. Honestly it is not impossible she could be a victim in all this too if they are no longer together.

Yes that is a stretch I can't definitively back up and I admit it... she may also know about it and Daniel is just using her alias with her knowing about it anyways... it's not like he was upfront about the real name in the first place after all.

Stepha-Kim doesn't roll off the tongue well, mebbe Kimanie

**porkuslime**

alarmingrick wrote:
MagickalMemories wrote:
Very minor quibble... but I want to set it straight (even if I'm the one who is incorrect).

@ MT11
You said "Matt Bonder's" "Wife" died, then his "daughter" did.

I have one statement of correction and one question on it.

1) It wasn't a daughter. It was a Son. I remember this specifically, as the "Son" was named Erin (this is how he spelled the son's name). I remember that specifically, as [a] I have a daughter with that name and [b] wondered, but did not ask -as I was a believer at that time- why he spelled it like a girl's name.

2) Question... Didn't "Matt" lose his "Son" then his "Wife" in the stories he told? I could be misremembering, but that is how I THOUGHT it went.

Don't want to be pedantic... but the guy will latch on any inaccuracy to show how we are "lying," and I want to be sure that the record is correctly reflected.

Thanks.

Eric

You're 100% spot on!
The character Matthew Bonder killed off the character of Erin his son, then the character of Sarah, his wife. I want to say it was around 4 months between Erin's fake death, before Sarah's fake diagnosis.

Erin I don't think even got "born" ... when I was talking to Matt back then, (on the phone twice, thru email and Bartertown PMs too), he kept talking about his wife miscarrying .. Jan 3-5, 2009 PMs

I have saved almost everthing he send me from 4 years back..

If needed, I can provide copy/pastes.. no screen capture alas

-P

**MagickalMemories**

porkuslime wrote:

Erin I don't think even got "born" ... when I was talking to Matt back then, (on the phone twice, thru email and Bartertown PMs too), he kept talking about his wife miscarrying .. Jan 3-5, 2009 PMs

I have saved almost everthing he send me from 4 years back..

If needed, I can provide copy/pastes.. no screen capture alas

-P

No. No.
You're right.
Now that you mention it, I recall that it WAS a miscarriage.... but he always referred to it as his "son dying." That is why I didn't even question the "dead son" story as mentioned previously in the thread. I'd totally forgotten that part.
Heck, if my memory is coming back properly, the "wife" was 6 months pregnant at the time. I seem to recall that the even tied his "wife's" later illness in with (or as) the reason for the "miscarriage."

God. The more I remember about that time frame, the sicker and sicker this individual seems (to me).

Eric

**porkuslime**

You got it.. wife had miscarriage, he was kicked out of the house for not being all sympathetic, then wife reveals she has cancer, he moved back in to help care for her.. and .. then she dies.

Very Tragic Story of Young Boy who Died ..

Happy I still got em..

-P

**MajorTom11**

I love that he can say whatever he wants cause it's an opinion but everyone else who points out facts and states their opinions about him is 'liable'.

**Mannahnin**

Deleted a few terminally off-topic posts.

**Alfndrate**

MajorTom11 wrote:
I love that he can say whatever he wants cause it's an opinion but everyone else who points out facts and states their opinions about him is 'liable'.

I particularly liked the part where he said Hive Mind is unblockable, and that Dakka people never post under their real names. I had been posting under my real name the entire time... Seriously, this guy is grasping at so many straws it's becoming more annoying than it had been humorous.

**Platuan4th**

Hive Mind is unblockable? What, is he a Facebook admin or something?

**d-usa**

Dakka has friends in high places, the reach of the cult is vast.

**insaniak**

d-usa wrote:
Dakka has friends in high places, the reach of the cult is vast.

Given the behaviour displayed by Resin Forge so far in response to comments made in this thread, I would prefer if people avoid even joking about the idea of 'Dakka' being behind the behaviour of any individual on Facebook. 'Dakka' had nothing to do with it, and most certainly does not endorse that sort of behaviour.

**jah-joshua**

well, things have gone all quiet on the RF page today...
hopefully this insanity will die down, because yesterday was off the chain...

the only thing Dakka Mods, and us users, should be doing now is look out for the next Mandelbaum move...
bringing him to light as a member of RF was all that was being done here...
through this, Alph got repaid, and the people who's packages "went missing" got refunds...
good job...

from here, as i see it, anything further is moot, and only makes us look bad...
the few remaining supporters of RF are going to give them money regardless...
that's their choice...
the public has been informed...
'nuff said...

until the next round...

cheers
jah