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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/07 20:15:17
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Feldwebel
Tamworth, UK
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And still with avoiding answering direct questions:
So I guess saying 'they're Daniels work' is just too much hassle....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/07 20:58:41
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Old Sourpuss
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Someone that isn't blocked go ask who made the conversions
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Ask me about Brushfire or Endless: Fantasy Tactics |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/07 21:14:17
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Kim, probably, or Stephanie.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/07 21:18:13
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Fixture of Dakka
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I don't know, I hear Jason is allegedly talented in his own right! Automatically Appended Next Post: Well, I couldn't get a screen grab, but my wife posted asking who made the conversions, he deleted it. She asked who deleted her comments and he said they were deleted based on who asked, and to tell Rick hi. Funny, I seem to remember I only dealt with Mandelbaum. Thought he was gone......? " Resin Forge Store The models were built by the team as examples of what FW models can be converted into. Specifically your comment was removed because of who wanted you to ask. Tell Rick, "Hi." " You don't really think they just said that he was gone, and he really stayed do you?!?!?
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 02:42:59
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
St. Louis Missery... Erm... Missouri
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No! Never! They are as honest as the day is long.
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Captain Malcom Reynolds: Sooner or later they are going to come back around to the notion that they can make people better
Denis Lemieux: You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, you know and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free.
aka:
Warseer/ammobunker: dean
B&C: Brother dean
Xbox/Ebay/CMoN: ammobunkerdean |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 06:45:43
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Wow, your apparently really touched a nerve Rick/Rick's wife. They sent me an email to copy/paste to you, but the gist of it is that apparently Dan told them who everyone on Dakka was, how to recognize them, and why each person hated him, so they know all about you. Oh, and they're done communicating with Dakka.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 07:04:31
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Kelne
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AduroT wrote:Wow, your apparently really touched a nerve Rick/Rick's wife. They sent me an email to copy/paste to you, but the gist of it is that apparently Dan told them who everyone on Dakka was, how to recognize them, and why each person hated him, so they know all about you. Oh, and they're done communicating with Dakka.
Daniel must have left detailed instructions to the other two company members, why else would Resin Forge know all the stuff that Daniel did?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 07:06:31
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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And why do people on Dakka 'hate' Dan? Is it because he's an abusive liar and a cheat that takes people money and makes up stories about dying relatives to string people along for months/years?
No actually. I don't think people on Dakka do hate him. I don't anyway, I just think he's a very sad little man that needs to learn what honesty is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 07:30:30
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Dakka Veteran
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I'm not blocked yet if there's anything *important* worth asking. I guess you would want to PM me as otherwise he'd pick up the question and it would be insta-blocked for sure.
He'll never see through my clever disguise.
And no one is worth hating. But many people are worth distrusting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 07:46:11
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
St. Louis Missery... Erm... Missouri
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And yet "they" still feel the need to send messages by proxy... Done communicating...
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Captain Malcom Reynolds: Sooner or later they are going to come back around to the notion that they can make people better
Denis Lemieux: You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes, by yourself, you know and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free.
aka:
Warseer/ammobunker: dean
B&C: Brother dean
Xbox/Ebay/CMoN: ammobunkerdean |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 08:25:27
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Any model not painted was done by Jason and in some of the rare cases, me. The painted ones could have been done by Jason , build wise, but painting was Daniel. That's why those are taken. He took them when he left and we kept the store models to sell and break even.
DO CUT AND PASTE THIS.
Why is it as if Dakka is even acting like we are doing wrong? This is how a company closes down.
QUOTE US, dont just GIST it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 08:40:57
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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This is how a company closes down.
A company which we don't even know is a company, since they refuse to provide information that they are required to have. I hope that if they are doing this without regards for tax law that they get caught, taxes are important, and every other business has to pay them.
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 08:56:07
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Resin Forge:
Dear Mrs Rick, Richard, Robert Minton The models were built by the team as examples of what FW models can be converted into. Daniel made it very clear who Rick was, who Ken was, and key others.Whats funny is your here, causing drama, the very drama Rick loves to stir up. Seeing as how D always referred to him as Minton, it wasn't hard to see your his wife. Please do not comment again, we do not wish to ban you but you clearly are here to cause drama.
Resin Forge:
Seems being nice didn't work.
According to Resin Forge harassing people by phone and calling others nazis, sheep, idiots and more is NICE? * lol*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 09:16:03
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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Did you get the 'hillbilly celebrities' quote screencapped? That was a good one
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 09:43:08
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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... or Mork
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 09:47:02
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Painting Within the Lines
Hamburg Germany
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I followed this Mandelbaum affair for quite a while out of interest, allthough my visits have been less often recently, while the pattern of this operation seems clear and the facts are on the table. Now, the principle of german law calls a suspect innocent until the court decides him guilty, and I am in no way personally involved, although I have an opinion, and the chances of me trying business with that guy are as low as I would join in a game of hats at a shady street corner.
But my eventual visits of this thread make me feel I must ask Mandelbaum's opponents if you are still sure about your motivations. Yes, you want to stop a fraudster, yes, you want to protect other, potential victims from him, but - how much do you want it really? Life happens outside of the internet. If you really want to stop him, there should be more legal action. There is a lot of talking about tax fraud and illegal business in this thread. Well, if you suspect him and his possibly existing companions of tax fraud, then just do it and report him. If he is really innocent, then the law will name him so. If he is guilty, the law will take him out of action much more efficiently than all internet mobbing can, expecially with his (again, suspected) modus operandi, which seems expecially tailored for internet communication. The fact that the law seems to sleep more often than not is no argument, poking it over and over again eventually will stirr it. And remember Al Capone, the tax office is much more potent and willing to act than the rest of autorities.
In short, my opinion: take legal action outside the net or leave the manhunt. I understand the motivation behind it, but who is not willing to do so should consider that by just posting, pm-ing and so on he positions himself with all those haters and flamers that hide behind the (not so solid) anonymity of the internet, thus on one level with Mandelbaum himself.
"Der Worte sind genug gewechselt, laßt mich auch endlich Taten sehn!"
J.W. von Goethe, Faust: words were changed enough, now let me see action!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 09:54:00
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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The motivation for us is clear:
- we want to see a business license
- we want to see pics from the HH weekender
- we want that people know that Mandelbaum is involved
Points 1 and 2 are still open. Point 3 is ongoing.
Another point is that Mr Mandelbaum knows that whenever and wherever he decides to pitch up a company which is not run under his real name, people will find out. He is more than welcome to play with open cards and make a legit business. But not with hiding his past and true identity
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 10:05:52
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Painting Within the Lines
Hamburg Germany
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Accepted, Inquisitor. my point is that there is a point Zero behind it, name it or not: stopping a fraudster. (suspected, as I said). And there is only one way of doing so: authorities knocking at his door, waving the search warrant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 11:58:19
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Old Sourpuss
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AduroT, can you PM me what Dan said about Tom S.? I'm interested to hear what he says about me. Or am I not a major player
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 12:09:22
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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The only ones mentioned by name were Rick and Ken, and I only know who Rick is because he made the post talking about his wife here as well. No idea who Ken might be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 12:13:55
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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I'm Ken
(if I'm wrong about who Ken is, then that won't make any sense, if I'm right then it does)
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 12:28:22
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[DCM]
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motyak wrote:I'm Ken
(if I'm wrong about who Ken is, then that won't make any sense, if I'm right then it does)
I see what you did there!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 12:46:04
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Who is Rick? The PR person?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 12:50:32
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'm thinking that's AlarmingRick, KK.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 13:24:52
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Fixture of Dakka
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I take offense at that good sir! Why, I......
kronk's right. it's me.
And before anyone asks, the "drama" my wife's FB page started was to simply ask who made the conversions.
Oh the drama!!! The humanity.......! Automatically Appended Next Post: I also have a suggestion/idea I'd like to share. Let's NOT post anymore "drama" rants from RF. I hear you saying "well, why?"
Simple. Mandelbaum is gone and he was the only one banned from Dakka. If any remaining RF staff have anything to say, let them
take a few seconds to create an account, and tell us themselves. Otherwise, it's just Mandelbaum and there aren't any others.
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 14:15:38
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Accepted, Inquisitor. my point is that there is a point Zero behind it, name it or not: stopping a fraudster. (suspected, as I said). And there is only one way of doing so: authorities knocking at his door, waving the search warrant.
1.) Contrary to what RF claims he/ they were not accused of being fraudsters by us or Dakka officials. So far no case of non-delivery or non-refund by Resin Forge has come to light. Some complaints, yeah, but (due to their own will or public pressure) people were refunden and their orders "found again". So there is no handle (nor interest) to "stop" or "shut down" RF.
2.) As said before the interest is that people KNOW who they are dealing with. And to expose or confirm (highly) questinable statements (business license, HH weekender, "exclusive" early products etc).
3.) To "stop" Mandelbaum, you need a coordination of people who didn't get what they were promised or what they paid for - this coordination IS happening, every time somebody turns up they are discreetly pointed to the coordination. That this is not happening publicly is clear, there have been enough alleged harassments by DM.
So summarized there are multiple levels of action. The most visible one, aiming at point 2.) and much less visible ones.
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Resin Forge:
Better pictures now that what is and isn't being sold from the featured models selection.
This time *fill in respective offer*
PM for offers.
*All sales will be conducted via a checkout system and will require signature on delivery do to the nature of the models*
What's a "checkout system"? Is he talking about his shop system?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 14:26:32
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Painting Within the Lines
Hamburg Germany
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I understand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 15:50:17
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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'The team at resinforge did the conversions'
On Mandelbaums personal army months before 'they joined' the company apparently...
Info provided from user who has been harassed by Mandelbaum in the past and does not with the torrents of emails and calls - but check this out -
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?357995-Sons-of-Horus-13th-Genetic-Research-Cohort
This is the wip thread of the SoH army. it is clearly a single person doing both painting and converting, and it's also implied that the business is a one man enterprise. The start of the thread is written in singular form, and changes to plural later on, but only in regards to the company RF, it is still very clear that this is not only a personal army, but also built and painted by the same guy which I suspect is Mandelbaum from the PM I got after posting in the first thread about him and RF.
Also, this trade thread is worded as if it's a one man operation:
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?358990-H-Forge-World-Bits-books-and-more-for-Sale-W-or-possibly-trade
These other two sales threads are both in plural, and indicates that "the other owners" only joined later (about a month or 2 after the company was established)
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?360992-Resin-Forge-New-Years-Sale-20-off-all-FW-items!
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?360995-Resin-Forge-New-Years-Sale-20-off-all-FW-items!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 22:00:27
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Old Sourpuss
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That kind of seems similar to the Resin Forge Reddit threads (albeit yes probably by the same person), but if I recall, no one under that username on Reddit says they are more than a 1 man operation. Edit: Tom, I can't see the second, third, or fourth thread, as they require someone to be logged into warseer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/08 23:34:42
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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I also cannot see the last three threads. I continue to watchdog this for my friends
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