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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 04:40:04
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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Alright, sorry gentleman, I just got home from work. I'm trying to hit on as many of these posts as I can before bed. If I missed your I apologize, although some posts were irrelevant or repetitive.
Aerethan wrote:I like how all of my posts are being ignored by AJ.
Also, you live a stones throw from Dallas, so why would RF take you on officially without bothering to go meet you.
I'd be interested in speaking with you though. Kim has my contact info, I'm in the office until 2pm PDT M-F.
Again, sorry about that.  And the reason for not meeting up with them is due to scheduling conflicts with me. I work long hours and usually just want to go home to spend time with the lady.
Dreadclaw69 wrote: ExiledMiniatures wrote:I'm contributing to the page because I want to. I've been a fan of the conversion work that used to be posted. I'd like to see those kinds of posts return and its something I intend to bring back.
As far as compensation although it isn't anyone's business. It doesn't have anything to do with this situation.
I know Kim and Jason through resin forge. Ive never met them in person I have had phone conversations with each. I have never met Daniel.
If you have never met them in person, and I do not recall seeing you make many comments during the time Daniel was employed with them, could I ask how you got involved with Resin Forge. Was it through a third party? Who approached whom?
As a fan and a client, I offered to help manage the facebook page. I knew this also meant I needed to post here before being accused of being another DM imposter.
My painting service has no ties to Resin Forge and I am not someone who pushes my clients to order from them. I encourage all people to buy from who they like but with pieces such as FW for full kits I recommend direct from FW as the issue with miscasts deems to high, but for individual bits, I shop best price before placing orders some times that's from Resin Forge, sometimes it's eBay or another vendor.
Negator80 wrote: Dreadclaw69 wrote: ExiledMiniatures wrote:I'm contributing to the page because I want to. I've been a fan of the conversion work that used to be posted. I'd like to see those kinds of posts return and its something I intend to bring back.
As far as compensation although it isn't anyone's business. It doesn't have anything to do with this situation.
I know Kim and Jason through resin forge. Ive never met them in person I have had phone conversations with each. I have never met Daniel.
If you have never met them in person, and I do not recall seeing you make many comments during the time Daniel was employed with them, could I ask how you got involved with Resin Forge. Was it through a third party? Who approached whom?
Same way the lawyer 'approached' resin forge, which then 'scammed' them when they ( lol) paid him via paypal.
Oh and one of the RF guys deleted my posts asking about this.
AJ, mind unbanning everyone from the RF site?
I can see what I can do, but I'd still have to have Kim's permission. I am sure that if we can all come to an agreement and keep flaming and direct insults/offensive content off the page it would not be a problem. I will look into the situations and try to resolve each. If you'd like to discuss it, please PM me.
motyak wrote:You guys know that in a few days there could well be a post on RF's wall saying 'I tried to engage dakka and showed them proof but they just attacked me and kept hounding me for more and more', to which the regular posters there will go 'Oh no that wretched place, you poor thing, at least you tried to give them evidence, it's up to them that they ignored it' and cheer their hero.
As has happened every other time someone has shown up here posting in favour of RF, despite never actually providing any answers to the questions we actually need answered;
This is almost silly at this point, they won't own up and provide registration of any kind, and when they eventually fold those who supported them will be hurt and left to the wolves while he starts his next company. Have people tried emailing the relevant authorities re: no business registration et al? I considered it but felt that an Australian email will have little relevance to them.
I'm sure this post has come up in the past, but I can assure you that it won't be up there again. I do not believe in that kind of play for sympathy. I do agree that there are questions that need to be answered. If I had 100% of the answers I would happily relay them to all of you, but since I only handle the web stuff I don't have access to the business information. I can only push your requests and my own advice on the Kim.
I'll tackle all the questions you all want answered in one response at the end of this post.
MajorTom11 wrote:Exactly. Let's just stick to the issues we know about for sure.
So AJ? Still waiting sir -
- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.
As I said, I just got off work, although I do apologize for the wait business comes first since it pays my bills.
I have been emailing Kim all day about your requests.
After discussion, Resin Forge will not be sharing the previous business registration with DM and previous owners information on it. There will be a video from Kim posted Thursday along with the new LLC in her name and her name only.
There will be no personal information given to people outside the company. Please remember as freelance work here I am not privy to this information myself! I put in your requests and respond with what I am given.
Dmyze wrote:I quite like AJ's work on the Exiled Minitures blog - some very nice painting there (nice face painting tutorial!).
I sincerely hope that this doesn't blow up in his face as it did to The Hairy Painter & Eye of Error/Lucky No.5 in the past.
I must admit that if I am any example of the standard hobby enthusiast I can't see how many people would feel comfortable ordering from RF.
This is also coming from someone who found out about this from RF's rants first (on their facebook while searching for FW parts).
I appreciate the compliments, I'd love to have the time to do more, but works is keeping me busy!
And if this were to blow up on me, which I do not believe it will, I would hope people could be more understanding that any poor business practices do not reflect my own beliefs and policies.
MajorTom11 wrote:Yup, if AJ is indeed who he claims to be which I am inclined to believe he is (sorry AJ, you have to understand believing anyone is who they say they are when Mandelbaum is involved is extremely sketchy at best) then he is the latest in a long list of people with good morals trying to smooth out a mess for someone they believe is being unfairly accused.
I was one of em during the Lord.Serpius Persona and dealt with Daniel in good faith while he was pretending to be Susan Bisley... while still pretending to be Matt Bonder on top of it lol. It was only the revelation that Bisley had a son and the line-up of other facts that ultimately finally revealed this cowards real name.
Think about it AJ, this guy has spend years and years pretending to be near on a dozen other people... is that normal behavior for someone acting in good faith and with honesty, intending to be responsible to their clients? Hell no. Not to mention hiding and not answering with clients while taking new orders, then claiming he, his wife or his fictional daughter had cancer and that is why he couldn't live up to his obligations... then ultimately just disappearing and getting away with it due to the layers of aliases.
Don't take my word for it. Take his. Read his own words where he screws himself up losing track of his lies at various times. Listen to the harrasing voicemails left over the years as various identities all in his voice from his Dad's number. You don't need me, or anyone else, you just need a bit of your own time and an ounce of faith that maybe we are telling the truth about this and we are genuinely worried about you getting involved here for your own sake.
You can believe me or not, it's up to you. The evidence is there, any sane person would certainly be alarmed at the least upon reading it, and the Mandelbaum hallmarks are all over this, even now.
This isn't a game. It's not retail. You have put your good name on a PR nightmare the scope of which I don't think you fully grasp. Don't underestimate who you are dealing with, nor the potential heartache you will undergo down the line. Invest a few hours in yourself, and review the evidence here and all over the community.
If you do persist in working with RF though -
- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.
I understand your reluctance to believe that I am who I say I am. Although a 7 year old facebook profile is pretty deep cover if I were an impostor  I would like to add, I do not feel he is unfairly confused. I was very active on forums the first time DM was accused of ripping people off, and yes with him involved in the business I would be reluctant. But as will be shown Thursday in a video release from Kim, he is no longer involved at all. He has no say in any aspect of the company now solely run by Kim.
I will attempt to gather evidence from the HH weekender, although I have been told of several fulfilled orders from that priest model and other orders, but since I have no involvement in the business side this is again information I can only pass along what I have been informed of,
MagickalMemories wrote:- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.
Okay, seriously. I think you guys need to stop hammering AJ for this information. He's just some guy who doesn't realize what he's getting himself into. He volunteered to help with their site. That's it. He's not a business partner in RF, and he wouldn't/shouldn't have access to the kinds of records you're harassing him over.
I think all of the talk and attempted coersion to get him to read up on DanMatt MandelBonder's history is smart, helpfu and HUGELY justified. Pestering him about this stuff, though, is just off base.
Eric
Thank you for understanding Eric. I do understand the mess that the company is in, but I think they still deserve the chance to redeem themselves. Daniel is no longer a part of the equation. I understand his history and I understand the hesitation from ordering from Resin Forge. There are happy loyal customers who will continue to order, and if people are reluctant to order then that is fine, but this hatred of others in the community needs to stop.
As you said Eric I am not a business partner and any good business would not share that kind of information with someone who does what I do.
Monster Rain wrote:Unless he Is in fact another cleverly crafted Mandelbonder alias.
I feel we have already proven I am not a mandelbonder alias. As my joke earlier, that is a damn long cover to run and not use.
For good measure, this photo is myself and Nam from Lazuli Miniatures taken at Wargames Con in 2012.
So to cover what may be missed if people don't read the response to quotes and just skim, there will be a video uploaded Thursday from Kim with the new business model. She will also be discussing the LLC and sharing information on the new LLC in her name with the public.
Again if I missed anyone that needed an answer, sorry. I'm off to bed now.
I can be reached through facebook or PM if needed to be directly contacted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 04:44:03
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Inquisitor S. wrote:Oh and one of the RF guys deleted my posts asking about this.
You asked when about what precisely?
I asked why a lawyer would 'approach them' about about sending a C&D (why would a lawyer 'approach' this smallish company about an internet feud with a niche gaming sight)?
Why would a lawyer ask for paypal payment?
Why would you think sending a lawyer paypal payment is normal?
If you thought you needed a lawyer, why wouldnt you go find a legit one nearby?
All this was said after Daniel supposedly left. They claimed to be scammed by the lawyer. Post is still up, but this means to me that the remaining folks are clearly part of the greater deception, or have very little common sense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 04:44:39
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Fixture of Dakka
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Tom, The thing is though, if this was any other thread and any other poster, your posts would have been considered spam already. On page 61 of this thread you have repeated the same set of questions 5 times...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 04:46:42
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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MajorTom11 wrote: MagickalMemories wrote:- Please provide RF's business registration number as is legally required from the day they started selling - or admit that it was/is operating illegally.
- Please provide definitive proof 2 people went to the HH weekender, via pics and corrobarative evidence. Saying it is impossible to show any evidence whatsoever without compromising personal information is bs and since it has been proved RF has photo manip software despite claiming not to, let's just dispense with the run-around. I also remind you RF created this question for themselves by swearing up and down they would be there and get a smack of Fulgrims.
- Please provide the previous business registration number RF said they had proving/showing the business was co-owned and registered to Daniel Mandelbaum, StephaKim Hernandez and Jason whatever. With a date. This is an obligation of a texas business. So provide it, or admit that RF was/is operating illegally. This is something RF themselves claimed existed.
Okay, seriously. I think you guys need to stop hammering AJ for this information. He's just some guy who doesn't realize what he's getting himself into. He volunteered to help with their site. That's it. He's not a business partner in RF, and he wouldn't/shouldn't have access to the kinds of records you're harassing him over.
I think all of the talk and attempted coersion to get him to read up on DanMatt MandelBonder's history is smart, helpfu and HUGELY justified. Pestering him about this stuff, though, is just off base.
Eric
Sorry Eric, but I disagree. First, those questions are not just for AJ, it is important to repeat them over and over just to prove the point of how evasive RF really is. That, and to make it crystal clear to even a casual reader that when RF starts throwing hissy fits that we are calling them re-casters etc, it just isn't so. Second, If AJ himself as an RF 'insider' cannot get a straight answer regarding these very straightforward and simple questions, then that should help encourage him to look into it more.
The fact is, RF should have those business numbers if they are operating legally. The whole point of having those numbers is so customers and the public can identify them as a legally operating entity. It should not be 'private information' to disclose who owns the business and where it runs from. If they are legit, what was there to worry about? They were hiding that info even before Mandelbaum was outed and have failed to produce it since. They HAVE to have one, so either they are either operating illegally or for some crazy reason witholding information that would go a long way towards making them a more trustworthy site. That's the whole point of the #. So, we need 2 #'s, the first with all three names on it which StephaKim said was the case, and the 2nd with just her name on it, and we can then verify the dates were legit on the govt side.
That would be huge for them, it can't be understated. It means that they would be accountable legally and easily for any issues, unlike previous businesses Mandelbaum has run under aliases and without the legal items needed. Huge. Cannot be understated. To their benefit on top of it! I am so sure they don't have those numbers that I am offering really solid advice to someone I would rather see never sell another bit or model in this community again because it doesn't even matter lol, shady is as shady does. He doesn't want to get a number because he doesn't ever want to be accountable to the law. I wouldn't either if I was him.
Finally the HH weekender is something they trumpeted so loud and so frequently on their own FB page that it is perhaps the most relavant and 'can't get out of it' lie they told in regards to the loyalty of those they have fooled into believing them. They can't admit they didn't go because it would reveal a huge lie to their audience and call into question all the other promises of goods and advance orders (money taken with no guarantee of an advance order). They can't let their audience know they would create a lie that big and elaborate, especially when there was no real need to do it, no one forced him into that position, he just made a cashgrab and in true Mandelbaum fashion layered lie upon lie until he had a completely unfeasible story, now he just wants everyone to forget what he said and did.
No sir, definitely, those questions need to be hammered home, over and over, for anyone reading this thread, because the answers will either exonnerate them and relieve the community that they are at least dealing with an accountable business, even if they have a very dirty past, and also show they kept their word on one of their biggest promises. Or, the answers will show this is just another giant lie for the sake of lying Daniel Mandelbaum clusterfeth and they should steer clear at all costs as he is running an illegal business and still lying as often as you and I draw breath.
Your points are valid in my personal opinion. And I assure you I am asking your questions up the chain. As I've said I can only respond with the answers I have. I believe you understand where I come from, and I understand where you come from.
Thursday will settle several of these points on the LLC and answer many questions from the business aspect that I don't have the access or answers for.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 04:54:07
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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We as a community need to be careful how we proceed.
Tom, I respect you and admire your efforts on this so far. However I think a bit of temperance on your part in the next few days, until the video is released and we see what's what, could go a long way to cooling much of the anti-Dakka sentiment on this issue in other places.
Please note I am completely on your side about DM as you can see from my personal support on Capture and Control with the warnings I posted there. Let's see what happens.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 04:56:51
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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ExiledMiniatures wrote:Alright, sorry gentleman, I just got home from work. I'm trying to hit on as many of these posts as I can before bed. If I missed your I apologize, although some posts were irrelevant or repetitive.
After discussion, Resin Forge will not be sharing the previous business registration with DM and previous owners information on it.
I call BS on this. Why aren't you releasing the information you are legally obliged to share? In nearly every country (not sure about north korea for example) the names of the owners of a company are public information, to help the people check that the company is a legal entity.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 04:59:32
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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I will say this though Tom I would not personally post publicly my tax ID number but would instead point you to my registered state website so you can ask them. The reason being that's like a social security number now you can look up a businesz with the state register as a business is puplic record.
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Listen, my children, as I pass onto you the truth behind Willy Wonka and his factory. For every wonka bar ever created in existance, Mr. Wonka sacraficed a single Oompa Loompa to the god of chocolate, Hearshys. Then, he drank the blood of the fallen orange men because he fed them a constant supply of sugary chocolate so they all became diabetic and had creamy, sweet-tasting blood that willy could put into each and every Wonka bar. That is the REAL story behind willy wonka's Slaughter House! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 05:01:51
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Empchild wrote:I will say this though Tom I would not personally post publicly my tax ID number but would instead point you to my registered state website so you can ask them. The reason being that's like a social security number now you can look up a businesz with the state register as a business is puplic record.
He isn't asking for the Tax ID, but rather the business registration number. Unless they are the same thing...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 05:03:31
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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OverwatchCNC wrote:We as a community need to be careful how we proceed.
Tom, I respect you and admire your efforts on this so far. However I think a bit of temperance on your part in the next few days, until the video is released and we see what's what, could go a long way to cooling much of the anti-Dakka sentiment on this issue in other places.
Please note I am completely on your side about DM as you can see from my personal support on Capture and Control with the warnings I posted there. Let's see what happens.
Thank you for your understanding. I feel like the video will ease some of the tension between people.
tigerstein wrote: ExiledMiniatures wrote:Alright, sorry gentleman, I just got home from work. I'm trying to hit on as many of these posts as I can before bed. If I missed your I apologize, although some posts were irrelevant or repetitive.
After discussion, Resin Forge will not be sharing the previous business registration with DM and previous owners information on it.
I call BS on this. Why aren't you releasing the information you are legally obliged to share? In nearly every country (not sure about north korea for example) the names of the owners of a company are public information, to help the people check that the company is a legal entity.
I am only giving you the final decision I was given. Some information may or may not be shared on Thursday in addition to what I have been told, but I was told that the information on DM and JM Kimsteph would not be shared. Take it how you will, I am just the messenger of that answer. Thank you.
And to point out, depending on where you are, based in Texas an Employer Identification Number is also their Tax ID number if I'm not mistaken.
There are other licenses available to business owners, as well as a DBA ("Doing Business As")
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 05:05:20
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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Empchild wrote:I will say this though Tom I would not personally post publicly my tax ID number but would instead point you to my registered state website so you can ask them. The reason being that's like a social security number now you can look up a businesz with the state register as a business is puplic record.
Somebody already searched that website and no Resin Forge or ResinForge etc whas found.
Also we don't ask for that info to find out the names of the owners (which is already know (they said it) and is also public), but to see that these three man and woman walked in to the states office and have done the proper paper work to operate a company or they are just selling fw bits and candy out of a back of a truck in front a kindergarten?
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3200pts of 30k Blood Angels
4000pts of Tyranids
3000pts of Eldar
1500pts of Grey Knights
4000pts of Seraphon
4000pts of Daughters of Khaine
2000pts of Skaven
3000pts of Disciples of Tzeentch
1000pts of Beasts of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 05:05:50
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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One in the same as they are known as an EIN, or FID or any other name depending on state. Now I am not siding with RF as honestly I don't care but each state has different laws but federally I as an owner don't have to prove squat now if you look up my business with the state you will see who the share holders are in my company as that's public record but I don't have to provide my I.D publicly. The stricktist state in the Union is Delaware BTW for businesses.
Do remember all if they are not legit the IRS will get them as Paypal is legally required to report all funds now a days to the IRS. So come next year they will get it if they aren't legit as it will count as personal income. I know this as I had to file two files to the IRS because I was a sole proprietor for 60 days until I became an LLC.
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Listen, my children, as I pass onto you the truth behind Willy Wonka and his factory. For every wonka bar ever created in existance, Mr. Wonka sacraficed a single Oompa Loompa to the god of chocolate, Hearshys. Then, he drank the blood of the fallen orange men because he fed them a constant supply of sugary chocolate so they all became diabetic and had creamy, sweet-tasting blood that willy could put into each and every Wonka bar. That is the REAL story behind willy wonka's Slaughter House! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 05:09:31
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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ExiledMiniatures wrote:OverwatchCNC wrote:We as a community need to be careful how we proceed.
Tom, I respect you and admire your efforts on this so far. However I think a bit of temperance on your part in the next few days, until the video is released and we see what's what, could go a long way to cooling much of the anti-Dakka sentiment on this issue in other places.
Please note I am completely on your side about DM as you can see from my personal support on Capture and Control with the warnings I posted there. Let's see what happens.
Thank you for your understanding. I feel like the video will ease some of the tension between people.
tigerstein wrote: ExiledMiniatures wrote:Alright, sorry gentleman, I just got home from work. I'm trying to hit on as many of these posts as I can before bed. If I missed your I apologize, although some posts were irrelevant or repetitive.
After discussion, Resin Forge will not be sharing the previous business registration with DM and previous owners information on it.
I call BS on this. Why aren't you releasing the information you are legally obliged to share? In nearly every country (not sure about north korea for example) the names of the owners of a company are public information, to help the people check that the company is a legal entity.
I am only giving you the final decision I was given. Some information may or may not be shared on Thursday in addition to what I have been told, but I was told that the information on DM and JM Kimsteph would not be shared. Take it how you will, I am just the messenger of that answer. Thank you.
I will use Capture and Control to decry anyone attempting to "defraud, scam" or in any other way harm our community. That includes anyone or any business that is being disingenuous or aiding others in defrauding our community. If this video does not go a long way in formally addressing the issues at hand I won't push for temperance from anyone on here or who writes for C&C. I want you and those you're helping to have a fair shake, that in no way means I believe what's being said only that I am willing to hear you out.
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 05:13:50
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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Empchild wrote:One in the same as they are known as an EIN, or FID or any other name depending on state. Now I am not siding with RF as honestly I don't care but each state has different laws but federally I as an owner don't have to prove squat now if you look up my business with the state you will see who the share holders are in my company as that's public record but I don't have to provide my I.D publicly. The stricktist state in the Union is Delaware BTW for businesses.
Do remember all if they are not legit the IRS will get them as Paypal is legally required to report all funds now a days to the IRS. So come next year they will get it if they aren't legit as it will count as personal income. I know this as I had to file two files to the IRS because I was a sole proprietor for 60 days until I became an LLC.
I had the same issue with paypal last year. Now they report all income regardless of the amount, it used to be I believe 10K and up. Hurts when you file your taxes see what you really owe
OverwatchCNC wrote: ExiledMiniatures wrote:OverwatchCNC wrote:We as a community need to be careful how we proceed.
Tom, I respect you and admire your efforts on this so far. However I think a bit of temperance on your part in the next few days, until the video is released and we see what's what, could go a long way to cooling much of the anti-Dakka sentiment on this issue in other places.
Please note I am completely on your side about DM as you can see from my personal support on Capture and Control with the warnings I posted there. Let's see what happens.
Thank you for your understanding. I feel like the video will ease some of the tension between people.
tigerstein wrote: ExiledMiniatures wrote:Alright, sorry gentleman, I just got home from work. I'm trying to hit on as many of these posts as I can before bed. If I missed your I apologize, although some posts were irrelevant or repetitive.
After discussion, Resin Forge will not be sharing the previous business registration with DM and previous owners information on it.
I call BS on this. Why aren't you releasing the information you are legally obliged to share? In nearly every country (not sure about north korea for example) the names of the owners of a company are public information, to help the people check that the company is a legal entity.
I am only giving you the final decision I was given. Some information may or may not be shared on Thursday in addition to what I have been told, but I was told that the information on DM and JM Kimsteph would not be shared. Take it how you will, I am just the messenger of that answer. Thank you.
I will use Capture and Control to decry anyone attempting to "defraud, scam" or in any other way harm our community. That includes anyone or any business that is being disingenuous or aiding others in defrauding our community. If this video does not go a long way in formally addressing the issues at hand I won't push for temperance from anyone on here or who writes for C&C. I want you and those you're helping to have a fair shake, that in no way means I believe what's being said only that I am willing to hear you out.
And I would expect nothing less than that. I'm just asking for the opportunity for Kim to make this transition and address the issues. All I'm asking is that people will listen, whether they want to believe it or not is up to them, but at least being open minded and willing to listen is a step in the right direction!
Oh and Tiger; nice blood angels.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 05:17:33
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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ExiledMiniatures wrote:Thank you for your understanding. I feel like the video will ease some of the tension between people.
I wouldn't count on a video counting for a whole lot of beans, to be honest. We saw with the Susan Beasley episode that Daniel is not above getting family members to pose as completely unconnected people with nothing to do with him, no, uh uh.... He went so far as to share a photo of his mother holding her driver's licence in order to 'prove' that it was a 60 year old woman running the business in question that time.
So yeah, a video of someone else known to be personally connected to Daniel may not achieve what they think it might.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 05:25:55
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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You may be correct, but I feel like this would be a step in the right direction. Some people will still call it a scam and fake, it's inevitable in this time.
The main idea behind posting this video is to show that Kim is addressing the business and the concerns of the community.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 05:28:06
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Still can't or won't provide any evidence they are an actual business or show any photos from the HH weekend. Despite what Daniel keeps claiming, Dakka and others don't want personal information, just the barest evidence that their company is legit.
Will await this video, but I'm expecting excuses.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 05:29:44
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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So if she's going to show a video of herself, then showing HH weekender pictures with her face in them shouldn't be a problem anymore, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 05:32:27
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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AduroT wrote:So if she's going to show a video of herself, then showing HH weekender pictures with her face in them shouldn't be a problem anymore, right?
Maybe the video will just be from behind.
"This woman runs a miniatures bitz business, so we can't show you her face on television..."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 05:40:48
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Cyporiean wrote:Tom, The thing is though, if this was any other thread and any other poster, your posts would have been considered spam already.
On page 61 of this thread you have repeated the same set of questions 5 times...
I'll thank you to leave the moderating of this site to the moderators Cyp, thank you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 05:44:43
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Gargantuan Gargant
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-Edited by insaniak - let's keep a small amount of decorum, hmm...? - Aw....I'm sorry I guess that was in poor taste. I just wanted to lighten up the place a bit with humour considering how heated things were going. Could I still just say the video might be coming from her um...*cough cough* you know what? Jokes aside, but I honestly don't see how not answering any of the questions people like Major Tom have pointed out will change anything for Resin Forge's reputation or legitimacy as a company. Without any concrete evidence and constant evasion of these queries for the sake of "privacy" they're only digging their hole into a massive crater. They honestly should have just went up and quit like they previously had stated beforehand instead of backtracking and trying to pretend everything was hunky dorey now that Daniel and Jason are conveniently "gone".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 05:47:58
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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@AJ, first off, I said I thought you were indeed who you said you were. Second of all, the registration number is not personal information, it is business information. I own a business too, and I couldn't just hide my name and withhold a physical address from my clients.
You understand how this only casts more suspicion on them whereas revealing the # would establish they were doing business legally from the beginning right?
This makes sense to you AJ? Really?
You also think that simply saying Mandelbaum is long gone from a person he has a huge relationship with for years and has no connection to this anymore is enough to put the issue to rest? I look forward to this video to say the least.
Do you want to go on record as saying you have seen pictures from the HH weekender btw? Also, since StephaKim would assumedly actually show her face in said video, of course it would then be perfectly easy to show the pics from the weekender with only Jasons face blurred out and her clearly in attendance yes? I mean, honestly, does that sound like a crazy request to you, just show the pictures you promised you had, since the reason for not showing them is no longer valid and it would again be in RFs favor to show them right?
Automatically Appended Next Post: PS to all - AJ is here and trying to answer questions, and I am very open to hearing him, if he is the kind of person I think he is, he is probably a good guy.
Certainly waiting til Thursday for this video is in order but so long as AJ is engaging us I will continue to engage him as answering these 3 questions could put this whole mess to rest once and for all one way or another.
If Resin Forge provides information, any information that is concrete and verifiable through authorities that they are operator a fully legitimate and liable, trackable business, then that solves a whole ton of problems. Consequences would be in place and for the first time reasonably assured for any foul play that may occur. At that point, I personally would feel a lot more comfortable and not so worried about the community as they would have the means to protect themselves.
ResinForge, thus far, does not want to provide any assurance of this nature. If they do, we can all relax a bit I think. That being said, the previous reg # verifying the business is and always was on the up and up legally speaking would likewise put a lot of questions to rest. Maybe Daniel really was trying to 'go straight', but there is no reason to take their word for it. Believing facts in front of our faces though, that's when we have to reconsider the position.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 06:06:24
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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insaniak wrote: AduroT wrote:So if she's going to show a video of herself, then showing HH weekender pictures with her face in them shouldn't be a problem anymore, right?
Maybe the video will just be from behind. "This woman runs a miniatures bitz business, so we can't show you her face on television..." I don't know if that was an international ad insaniak. And it is puzzling that a video is OK but weekender pictures aren't, maybe they'll come with the video/just after when she realises that since a video is OK, then the pictures are as well. I'm interested to see it as well, and if she'll provide actual proof or just talk for 5-10 minutes and then say 'so there's your proof' and end the video.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 06:12:00
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Gargantuan Gargant
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motyak wrote: insaniak wrote: AduroT wrote:So if she's going to show a video of herself, then showing HH weekender pictures with her face in them shouldn't be a problem anymore, right?
Maybe the video will just be from behind.
"This woman runs a miniatures bitz business, so we can't show you her face on television..."
I don't know if that was an international ad insaniak.
And it is puzzling that a video is OK but weekender pictures aren't, maybe they'll come with the video/just after when she realises that since a video is OK, then the pictures are as well. I'm interested to see it as well, and if she'll provide actual proof or just talk for 5-10 minutes and then say 'so there's your proof' and end the video.
Judging from the past "quality" of voice messages and otherwise left by Resin Forge team it seems that it's more likely to be the latter; expect wooden monologue as someone reads off a script awkwardly as if there is a gun put behind their head.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 06:24:50
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Black Templar Recruit Undergoing Surgeries
UK (England)
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Hi AJ welcome. All I can say is a agree with everything MT11 has been saying and asking for.
So there is to be a video now. So there wont be any problems posting the HH pictures all 11 of them now. To show proof that its all 100%.
But at the moment all I'm seeing is the same BS, AJ, we ask questions and get told oh no we cant show proof due to personal info. ( well black it out and then show us ) Faces in the HH pictures etc. Addresses on the flight tickets. Just black it all out. Or post a picture of the 2 HH tickets.
Its up to RF and now you, to find a way of showing us proof and answering our questions, we've given you a way, eg blacking out personal info. Just saying no, will get us nowhere.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 06:32:48
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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How could a group of people go to an event like the HH one and only take 11 photos? What a waste. And all 11 have members of the team in them, and they seem unable to edit their face out to show even these few (Microsoft paint would do). How is this even credible?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 06:52:13
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Howard A Treesong wrote:How could a group of people go to an event like the HH one and only take 11 photos? What a waste. And all 11 have members of the team in them, and they seem unable to edit their face out to show even these few (Microsoft paint would do). How is this even credible?
It can happen. I went to GD in Chicago and didn't take even one photo. The only recent photo of me was taken six months ago. The previous ones are on my Facebook account and were taken in 1995.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 06:56:50
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
Behind you
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A.J.
I'm going to ask a few questions. First of all, the HH weekender trip was stated to be an unplanned visit as they were visiting relatives in that area. However, RF accepted preorders for Fulgrims a good while before that event. Was the HH weekender a planned or unplanned trip?
Secondly, will there be public acknowledgement that allegedly former RF employees harrassed several dakkadakka members, and threatened them @ work. That incident was NOT a discussion in any way.
Thirdly, stephanie needs to address the fact that monologueing does not constitute a discussion. A forum where all the fact are laid bare and a third party moderator is present would be a better way of addressing the current situation rather than presenting a wooden *video*.
As far as I am concerned, I am now seeing that Stephanie/kim is a scapegoat, the captain of a sinking ship now left behind by the admiral as it were.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 07:00:06
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Posts with Authority
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Howard A Treesong wrote:How could a group of people go to an event like the HH one and only take 11 photos? What a waste. And all 11 have members of the team in them, and they seem unable to edit their face out to show even these few (Microsoft paint would do). How is this even credible?
I went to GenCon and took five photos.
After I bought a camera, just because I was going to GenCon.
But then... I am notoriously bad about taking photos. (Ask my family, the folks at World Works, my girlfriend....)
The Auld Grump - going by my folder... I am most likely to take photographs of abandoned and derelict buildings.... And then if I am planning on post work....
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 07:36:16
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
Behind you
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TheAuldGrump wrote: Howard A Treesong wrote:How could a group of people go to an event like the HH one and only take 11 photos? What a waste. And all 11 have members of the team in them, and they seem unable to edit their face out to show even these few (Microsoft paint would do). How is this even credible?
I went to GenCon and took five photos.
After I bought a camera, just because I was going to GenCon.
But then... I am notoriously bad about taking photos. (Ask my family, the folks at World Works, my girlfriend....)
The Auld Grump - going by my folder... I am most likely to take photographs of abandoned and derelict buildings.... And then if I am planning on post work....
Don't take this personally, but if you were going to an event like this. You had quite a bit of onus on you to come up with evidence that you were there, and knew you'd be questioned about the trip....would you not take easily verifiable evidence, such as a picture of the gate/banner, or even *gasp* the tickets, with fiancial details blacked out, takes 5 minutes in paint, or you could use a commercial program and actually remove the confidential stuff. If someone claims to have taken easily verifiable photographic evidence, but yet refuses to post them. I find that is very shady.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/19 07:36:36
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Feldwebel
Tamworth, UK
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Still confused as to why StephKim herself hasn't posted here?
She's not blocked, and neither was Jason, but all communication STILL goes through intermediaries - no direct dialogue has taken place (apart from what appears to be two deranged voice messages).
And colour me confused again! The whole time we've been asking for the photos from the HH weekender, we've been blocked as neither StephKim or Jason wanted others to see their faces 'due to the death threats' Daniel had received (still an unverified claim along with the accusation of flowers sent for his dead mother etc...).
With this being the case, how can StephKim now claim to be preparing a video in which she shall appear, but continue to insist the the HH evidence cannot be shown for privacy reasons?
Something whiffs here, and it's not yesterday's fish.
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