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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 15:47:29
Subject: Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Super fun game between my Green Tide and my buddy Bens Tau. The game ended up being a super vicious shoot out. Hope you guys enjoy. Leave some love.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dG0KgvvhqxM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dG0KgvvhqxM Automatically Appended Next Post: Sorry guys I failed to report turn three, but you get the idea
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/11 16:09:11
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 16:09:18
Subject: Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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Wow! That was a lot of dead orks, Not sure why he didn't make a play for the relic as it cost him the game to just sit there shooting. He clearly just wanted to table the horde ha ha.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 16:35:36
Subject: Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Great report as always!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 17:35:26
Subject: Re:Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Focused Fire Warrior
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Hahah that was a great match! I'm not even pissed the Tau lost because it was great to see how much death and destruction happens in a Tau vs. Orks match up! Awesome battle report!
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FOR THE GREATER F-ING GOOD! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 21:40:58
Subject: Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Guessing you wont that one, bad match up for a gunline tau Relic unless they get first blood!. also shows how important the 1vp for the etheral kill can be.
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40kGlobal AOA member, regular of Overlords podcast club and 4tk gaming store. Blogger @ http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/
06/2013: 1st at War of the Roses ETC warm up.
08/213: 3rd place double teams at 4tk
09/2013: 7th place, best daemon and non eldar/tau army at Northern Warlords GT
10/2013: 3rd/4th at Battlefield Birmingham
11/2013: 5th at GT heat 3
11/2013: 5th COG 2k at 4tk
01/2014: 34th at Caledonian
03/2014: 3rd GT Final |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 22:22:29
Subject: Re:Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Dakka Veteran
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That was good!! He should have tried to get sms into the lootas to deny the cover and kill them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 22:55:31
Subject: Re:Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Hellion Hitting and Running
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I think the Ork player played very well. There really, there really wasn't anything he could have done differently and if he could have grouped his orks together to the center more the blasts would have taken out more orks. Getting first turn and killing the pathfinders really helped.
As a tau player I noticed a few mistakes.
The hammer heads has burst cannons instead of sms. They both are free and offer the same number of tl shots but the sms is 30'' and ignores cover. There is literally no reason you should ever take the burst cannon.
The orks have no ap2 range weapons. So the broadside unit should have been outside of the adl and another unit of path finders or fire warriors should have taken cover behind the line. In addition the orks have no outflanking units so you should have make the line straight and not a small box.
The lootas were the only thing that really did damage that game. You should have nova charged your riptides and shot at the lootas. They were so tightly packed that you should have aimed at either side of the middle group and killed enough o force two leadership tests. If they ran back one inch they would have fell off the board.
The riptide on the grot cannon side should have started advancing up to grab linebreaker.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 02:36:18
Subject: Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Huge Hierodule
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With nova thrusters rip tides cam get line breaker in two turns easily.
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Been out of the game for awhile, trying to find time to get back into it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 12:09:00
Subject: Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Interesting battle report. It definitely highlights how some of us can get a little too focussed on killing the oppopnent's army and not playing the mission. On one hand, the Tau player kept the Orks from taking the Relic. However, the Tau player did nothing to try and go for the Relic or get Linebreaker.
I didn't know the Ethereal gives up an additional VP. That is huge.
Overall, a decent report. Not quite as good as some others as there was no post battle report. I find those quite interesting to hear what folks took from the game.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/12 12:09:27
No earth shattering, thought provoking quote. I'm just someone who was introduced to 40K in the late 80's and it's become a lifelong hobby. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 15:44:55
Subject: Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I noticed no dakkajets this time around - were you tailoring your list to face Tau?
The Tau player made several blunders that cost him the game as has been noted here. New rules so its expected. I'd like to see a rematch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 17:13:29
Subject: Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Fixture of Dakka
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That's the problem with a lot of Tau players. Notice I wasn't referring to the Tau army, but the players themselves. They are too stuck in a gunline Tau mentality. No matter what army you bring, you need to make a play for the objectives. Just shooting the opponents off objectives isn't good enough (though it can work in many cases). I highly recommend for Tau players to look into taking some kroots in their army for a little more troop mobility.
Sarigar wrote:Interesting battle report. It definitely highlights how some of us can get a little too focussed on killing the oppopnent's army and not playing the mission. On one hand, the Tau player kept the Orks from taking the Relic. However, the Tau player did nothing to try and go for the Relic or get Linebreaker.
I didn't know the Ethereal gives up an additional VP. That is huge.
Overall, a decent report. Not quite as good as some others as there was no post battle report. I find those quite interesting to hear what folks took from the game.
I believe they only give up an additional VP in VP missions, which this wasn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 17:34:10
Subject: Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Huge Hierodule
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All rulebook missions use VP as a scoring mechanism, which means in all standard engagements killing an ethereal grants the enemy a 1 pt bonus.
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Been out of the game for awhile, trying to find time to get back into it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 19:11:13
Subject: Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yep, Relic grants three victory points, and you get secondary VP's as well, not sure on the wording of the Etherael though
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40kGlobal AOA member, regular of Overlords podcast club and 4tk gaming store. Blogger @ http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/
06/2013: 1st at War of the Roses ETC warm up.
08/213: 3rd place double teams at 4tk
09/2013: 7th place, best daemon and non eldar/tau army at Northern Warlords GT
10/2013: 3rd/4th at Battlefield Birmingham
11/2013: 5th at GT heat 3
11/2013: 5th COG 2k at 4tk
01/2014: 34th at Caledonian
03/2014: 3rd GT Final |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/13 00:03:58
Subject: Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Hey guys thanks for watching the report. A few things to note. We had every intention on doing a post battle video and we got completely side tracked by the other games that were going on... My apologies there.
Ben did make a few key mistakes, but as was noted, it's a new dex and was actually his first game in six months. We're looking to do a lot more here in the near future, so keep an eye out for more Tide on Tau action.
As far as tailoring my list goes, no I def didn't tailor. I've been trying out varies builds for this tourney in June and had made this list and was actively play testing it prior to my knowledge of the Tau match up.
As far as my list goes... The lootas are far superior to the dakka jets in every way. However, I would love to run three dakka jets with that mana lootas... Just the amount of shots would be amazing and overwhelming for a lot of people.
If I were to play this game over, I would have held my green tide back the majority of the game, keeping out of range of a lot of his missile pods etc. this would have allowed me to make a huge push on turn three or four and I may have been able to drown the relic in bodies to capture it. Overall I like the performance and balance of my army.
Ben and I talked about his army and he came up with a few changes that I feel will make a huge difference in his overall performance. He also agreed that he played way to defense, especially with his riptides.
Thanks for watching the report and sorry for some of the noise and organization mishaps.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/14 14:47:41
Subject: Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Agile Revenant Titan
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jy2 wrote:That's the problem with a lot of Tau players. Notice I wasn't referring to the Tau army, but the players themselves. They are too stuck in a gunline Tau mentality. No matter what army you bring, you need to make a play for the objectives. Just shooting the opponents off objectives isn't good enough (though it can work in many cases). I highly recommend for Tau players to look into taking some kroots in their army for a little more troop mobility.
Sarigar wrote:Interesting battle report. It definitely highlights how some of us can get a little too focussed on killing the oppopnent's army and not playing the mission. On one hand, the Tau player kept the Orks from taking the Relic. However, the Tau player did nothing to try and go for the Relic or get Linebreaker.
I didn't know the Ethereal gives up an additional VP. That is huge.
Overall, a decent report. Not quite as good as some others as there was no post battle report. I find those quite interesting to hear what folks took from the game.
I believe they only give up an additional VP in VP missions, which this wasn't.
I believe others answered this, but my understanding is yes, it applies in all missions as they all use VPs. Giving up a VP for killing the Ethereal is something I looked up after this report and that can be pretty significant.
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No earth shattering, thought provoking quote. I'm just someone who was introduced to 40K in the late 80's and it's become a lifelong hobby. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/14 15:09:26
Subject: Re:Green Tide vs Tau - 1850 Relic
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Fixture of Dakka
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lambsandlions wrote:
The hammer heads has burst cannons instead of sms. They both are free and offer the same number of tl shots but the sms is 30'' and ignores cover. There is literally no reason you should ever take the burst cannon.
Unless you happened to build the model with burst cannons, as many did in the last edition...
I'm not actually sure there's a good argument to take sms or burstcannons, as drones also offer the same number of shots, and have so many other uses.
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