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2013/05/12 08:51:09
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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Like in the title....Which big boy(z) are(is) most used only to make others look good ..?
For example - Avatar of Khaine, Titans ,Bloodthirsters, Deamon Primarchs  etc.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/12 09:10:20
ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2013/05/12 09:22:07
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Well the Emperor must be the biggest bone head of all time. Considering his supposed vast intellect, ancient age and super duper psyker powers he constantly made knucklehead choices and couldnt predict even the sun would rise the next morning.
He makes Lindsey Lohan and Sarah Palin seem very wise.
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2013/05/12 09:37:26
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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JWhex wrote:
He makes Lindsey Lohan and Sarah Palin seem very wise.
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2013/05/12 15:33:00
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Beast of Nurgle
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Ferrus Manus basically was only written in that piece of garbage Fulgrim to make him look like an incompetent idiot so Fulgrim looked better
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In granting those who oppose me death I am giving them the mercy of Nurgle.
Releasing my enemies from the bonds of fear and oppression , from the shame of betrayal, I preform a kindness I erase contempt, regret, sorrow, insanity all the burdens of life, embrace death and be free or reject Nurgles gift and be destroyed.
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2013/05/12 15:45:32
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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 GhostKnight31 wrote:Ferrus Manus basically was only written in that piece of garbage Fulgrim to make him look like an incompetent idiot so Fulgrim looked better
Yes that was a bit awful - first fight was like teacher whooping a school-boy + add the phoenix guard and morlorcks Find a better way to express yourself.Continued misuse of this term will see your account suspended. Reds8n too...
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/05/15 09:50:04
ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2013/05/12 15:45:36
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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The entire ork race.
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2013/05/12 15:56:05
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Avatar of Khaine.
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2013/05/12 16:07:49
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Confessor Of Sins
WA, USA
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Sisters of Battle
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 Ouze wrote:
Afterward, Curran killed a guy in the parking lot with a trident.
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2013/05/12 16:21:37
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Space Marine Chapters. Everyone and their mother has wiped one out.
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Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
 The Empire : ~60-70 models.
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2013/05/12 16:21:47
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Sacramento, CA
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Titans on the Imperial side. You want something to look impressively destructive you just put some titans or superheavy tanks opposite them and get blown up. See Legio Metalica at Armageddon, Legio Praetor at Macragge, Legio Annihilator against Hive Fleet Jormungandr, and numerous individual Titans blown up in short order to make individual units and characters look powerful.
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2013/05/12 16:36:24
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Ghastly Grave Guard
Uk
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Avatars and Greater Daemons are often used as "punchbags" for Primarchs and the like...
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2013/05/12 20:36:19
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Guelph Ontario
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The Hive Tyrants from Dawn of War 2. Those things are monsters when used properly, and yet they get roflstomped by Thule and Angelos to show how godly the two warriors are.
At least their exploits in the previous games makes them live up to their legends.
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2013/05/13 15:41:07
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Anything non-Imperial to make Space Marines look godly. There are SO many stories about how a single Marine or a Squad of Marines murdered hundreds of enemies without so much as a need for tactics...just being all Paladinly and moving forward.
One of the things I dislike about some of the fluff....
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 Farseer Faenyin
 7,100 pts Yme-Loc Eldar(Apoc Included) / 5,700 pts (Non-Apoc)
Record for 6th Edition- Eldar: 25-4-2
Record for 7th Edition -
Eldar: 0-0-0 (Yes, I feel it is that bad)
Battlefleet Gothic: 2,750 pts of Craftworld Eldar
X-wing(Focusing on Imperials): CR90, 6 TIE Fighters, 4 TIE Interceptors, TIE Bomber, TIE Advanced, 4 X-wings, 3 A-wings, 3 B-wings, Y-wing, Z-95
Battletech: Battlion and Command Lance of 3025 Mechs(painted as 21st Rim Worlds) |
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2013/05/14 00:29:12
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Abaddon is a total jobber.
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2013/05/14 01:20:40
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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I have to vote for Ferrus as well. What a waste of a character. All the more bittersweet knowing that Ferrus would have killed Fulgrim on Isstvan if not for Fulgrim giving in to the daemon.
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SickSix's Silver Skull WIP thread
My Youtube Channel
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
= Epic First Post.
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2013/05/14 07:18:34
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
On your roof with a laptop
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As said, Ferrus Manus.
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2013/05/14 07:33:15
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Executing Exarch
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The whole Iron Hands Legion.
Reading angel exterminatus again - the part where the sisyphean is on the run. It's briefly explained that a night lords vessel (which should have killed the ship) hunted it down and expected to win because everyone knows that the Iron Hands only charge in blindly. Luckily, they had one raven guard on board who said 'Stop that, its silly' and so the Iron Hands won.
They were fine for a bit before some Iron Hands veteran (insane version of inspector gadget) half blew the ship up with a dumb experiment, which announced their presence to the universe, rendering all attempts at stealth null and void. Then it all turned out fine. Lucky that.
I want the Iron Hands to show how good they are, not just turn out to be the marine equivalent of orks.
(any battle, anywhere - the plan? = Waagh!)
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/05/14 07:33:58
 Blacksails wrote:
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
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2013/05/14 16:14:29
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Ghastly Grave Guard
Uk
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PredaKhaine wrote:The whole Iron Hands Legion.
Reading angel exterminatus again - the part where the sisyphean is on the run. It's briefly explained that a night lords vessel (which should have killed the ship) hunted it down and expected to win because everyone knows that the Iron Hands only charge in blindly. Luckily, they had one raven guard on board who said 'Stop that, its silly' and so the Iron Hands won.
They were fine for a bit before some Iron Hands veteran (insane version of inspector gadget) half blew the ship up with a dumb experiment, which announced their presence to the universe, rendering all attempts at stealth null and void. Then it all turned out fine. Lucky that.
I want the Iron Hands to show how good they are, not just turn out to be the marine equivalent of orks.
(any battle, anywhere - the plan? = Waagh!)
See the world eaters are effectively better versions of them. They do that but way better and it ALWAYS works.
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2013/05/14 16:35:18
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Orks. A couple of squads of Crimson Fists hold back a whole bloody Waaagh! And escape. Nuff said. Also, Ferrus Manus, there isn't even any pictures of his face!! He's that unimportant ._.
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Muh Black Templars
Blacksails wrote:Maybe you should read your own posts before calling someone else's juvenile.
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2013/05/14 19:46:10
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Ghastly Grave Guard
Uk
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 BrotherOfBone wrote:Orks. A couple of squads of Crimson Fists hold back a whole bloody Waaagh! And escape. Nuff said. Also, Ferrus Manus, there isn't even any pictures of his face!! He's that unimportant ._.
Yeah he's a bit of a punch bag, The Ultrasmurf is also a word bearer punch bag, beat up by Lorgar beat up by Kor Phaeron and his forces get slapped around by theirs a lot.
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2013/05/14 19:59:37
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Orks crop up a lot in the background from the Black Library Horus Heresy books, the pre-heresy short stories in Forge World Horus Heresy: Betrayal, and in a number of the 40k novels (Rynn's World, Helsreach, etc).
They make an excellent foe. Both surprisingly cunning and brutal. I might have that backwards.
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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2013/05/14 22:18:00
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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BaconUprising wrote: BrotherOfBone wrote:Orks. A couple of squads of Crimson Fists hold back a whole bloody Waaagh! And escape. Nuff said. Also, Ferrus Manus, there isn't even any pictures of his face!! He's that unimportant ._.
Yeah he's a bit of a punch bag, The Ultrasmurf is also a word bearer punch bag, beat up by Lorgar beat up by Kor Phaeron and his forces get slapped around by theirs a lot.
Don't read Mark of Calth then, cause its BIG vice versa, fe
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/14 22:23:04
ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2013/05/14 22:49:04
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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Yeah on a small scale (while 600marinez isn't small scale it is in those battles) overall the WB kinda smacked them about which I was really happy to see. Dam Ultramarines diserves to be taken down a peg
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2013/05/15 09:09:57
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
Norway
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Magnus the Red for Ragnar, but he has lots that's makes him look good, but still reducing a Primarch to target-practice is bad for the Primarch, but good for Ragnar. Also you have every demon meeting a Grey Knight. Space Marines in general has a lot of that. So much that in general they are horribly predictable reads. Basically here is the average book or fanfiction about the Space Marines. First they struggle a little into the middle-late chapters. Then they suddenly curb-stomp everything in sight and you realize you could just as well have watched a John Cena or Hulk Hogan-match.
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2013/05/15 09:37:07
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Executing Exarch
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At least they lose for a bit 
Can you imagine if they just won straight away?
Eg, How much fun would it be if Cena just went straight into the five moves of doom?
I want to add...
40k Ultramarines. I swear some books have it so that all you need to beat them is a copy of the codex astartes and a flow chart.
If we do *this*, they will respond like *this* and so forth.
*insert generic tactic
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Blacksails wrote:
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
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2013/05/15 09:41:49
Subject: 30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
Norway
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Hahaha. Codex Astartes flowchart. Funny.
I would actually have seen it as refreshing if Cena went straight to his five moves of doom and curb stomped everything for a while. In a real fight if you are losing from the get-go you don't magically succeed like him.
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2013/05/15 09:50:36
Subject: Re:30/40k giant fall guys ?
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Executing Exarch
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It'd make for some short books 2 Space marines walking along. "Look aliens!" Ork goes "Wut?" Edit: sorry - "WAAAGH!." Blam. The end. OT - Do they not realise Cena has a kinetic motion power generator? The more you throw him about, the stronger he gets at the end... He must be so talented to be be able to punch someone lying down in the head SO HARD that they stand up. Everytime. That takes skill...
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/05/15 09:53:09
Blacksails wrote:
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
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2013/05/20 04:50:25
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Sneaky Kommando
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One thing that bugs me is how Orks are almost always just a distraction from a bigger threat in the fluff. I can say with the utmost assurance that where there is orks, there are secretly chaos/necrons/incomming hive fleet/rogue inquisitor's evil plot/the occasional craftworld eldar that play the roll of the ACTUAL villains.
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"Luck is my middle name. Mind you, my first name is Bad."- Rincewind
 4000 Kahmelot Dynasty
 10000 WAAAGH! Deffgubinz It's gettin bigga all da time!
 3000 Pre-Heresy Alpha Legion
 6000 WHFB Dwarfs
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2013/05/20 12:45:14
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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@Dragonfodder It would be nice to have the 14th Black Crusade actually a decoy for a massive Ork Waaagh for a change 
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2013/05/20 17:57:27
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Bounding Assault Marine
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Im gonna say Imperial Fists. Seems like in the 41st millenium, anytime chaos wipes out some marines, its the ones painted yellow.
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There is only the Emperor! He is our shield and protector.
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