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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 11:50:11
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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There are countless many regiments in the Imperial Guard who claim to be best. Who do you think is worthy of the title: The Best Regiment.
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1800 points: 254th Vadium
2000 points Zogs Crew
750 points 3rd company
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 11:55:44
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
Norway
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This again, it's kind of a boring and a rather insulting thing to make a poll of. Every regiment has strengths and weaknesses, just saying a regiment is the best is just bad things.
But if I have to choose I would say the Storm Troopers or Kasrkin as they are knotted down as elite troops, and elites always are more glamorous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 14:50:46
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Beaviz81 wrote:This again, it's kind of a boring and a rather insulting thing to make a poll of. Every regiment has strengths and weaknesses, just saying a regiment is the best is just bad things.
But if I have to choose I would say the Storm Troopers or Kasrkin as they are knotted down as elite troops, and elites always are more glamorous.
For someone who is heavily opinion-based I find this kind of hypocritical. A poll like this is fine, it's all in good fun and taste, no need to go around saying it's boring or insulting when the poster doesn't explicitly say one regiment is better than the other. Besides it's better than the periodical Matt Ward hate threads or Chaos Grey Knight threads.
As for me definitely DKK all the way. Nuking your own planet so the heretics can't have it...then being one of the few being allowed to clone your own troops trained with superior, near legendary bayonet fighting prowess (WS4), accepting casualties without fail AND their Commissars have to reign them in during battles rather than discipline you? If that isn't badass I don't know what is? Their expertise with artillery and sieges are just icing on the cake.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 15:02:24
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Beaviz81 wrote:This again, it's kind of a boring and a rather insulting thing to make a poll of. Every regiment has strengths and weaknesses, just saying a regiment is the best is just bad things.
But if I have to choose I would say the Storm Troopers or Kasrkin as they are knotted down as elite troops, and elites always are more glamorous.
No one forcing you to read or post by the way. Its a tad routine but how can you say its insulting. If you want high minded discussion then go to grad school in your spare time instead of dakka.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 15:03:59
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Guelph Ontario
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The 85th Vendoland managed to scramble together a defense against a combined Tyranid and Ork assault o Meridian, and then launched a suicide attack against the Hive Fleet with the aid of the Blood Ravens, and won.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 15:11:47
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
Norway
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JWhex wrote: Beaviz81 wrote:This again, it's kind of a boring and a rather insulting thing to make a poll of. Every regiment has strengths and weaknesses, just saying a regiment is the best is just bad things.
But if I have to choose I would say the Storm Troopers or Kasrkin as they are knotted down as elite troops, and elites always are more glamorous.
No one forcing you to read or post by the way. Its a tad routine but how can you say its insulting. If you want high minded discussion then go to grad school in your spare time instead of dakka.
Sorry I came off harsher than intended. But we have had plenty of this rolling around here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 15:12:56
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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It's quite obviously the Praetorians.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 15:13:57
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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Cadian, Catachans and Valhallans.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 15:16:29
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
Norway
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Depends on which Praetorians you are thinking of, the Skitarii, and I'm forced to agree as they basically are between that of a Storm Trooper and an Astartes. The guys fighting the Zulus, I mean Zerg, damn the Tyranids and hammering range-sticks in the ground and no, they just have nice uniforms and know how to form a fighting square.
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If you have nothing nice to say then say frakking nothing. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 15:50:13
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Beaviz81 wrote:Depends on which Praetorians you are thinking of, the Skitarii, and I'm forced to agree as they basically are between that of a Storm Trooper and an Astartes. The guys fighting the Zulus, I mean Zerg, damn the Tyranids and hammering range-sticks in the ground and no, they just have nice uniforms and know how to form a fighting square.
I mean these guys  Nothing in their incredibly limited fluff amounts to what you said about them... They are however, awesome.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 15:56:35
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
Norway
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No I took it from the movie Zulu. There the Brits actually used range-sticks, and since they are based on them I think it's safe to assume they are the masters of the fighting square and beating range-sticks into the ground (not that it need to be that bad a method of fighting). You seriously should see the movie, it's quite awesome for a 1964 film.
But for the best of the best I think the Praetorians of Skitarii simply is towering over everyone else in the Imperial Guard.
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If you have nothing nice to say then say frakking nothing. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 15:57:41
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Screaming Shining Spear
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I'm a Tanith fan. Sure, they aren't the most resilient for frontal assaults, but they are nasty when dug in and amazing at force disorganization and shadow games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 16:02:44
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Best at what? Because that's a really broad question.
Catachan's are excellent at jungle fighting, but they'd probably struggle with a protracted siege.
Death Korps of Krieg are excellent siege warfare specialists, but would struggle with a high altitude grav chute insertion. etc. etc.
Basically you have to narrow it down a bit. There is no one regiment best at everything. There is no "ultramarines" equivalent for the IG.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 16:10:52
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Hellacious Havoc
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Arcsquad12 wrote:The 85th Vendoland managed to scramble together a defense against a combined Tyranid and Ork assault o Meridian, and then launched a suicide attack against the Hive Fleet with the aid of the Blood Ravens, and won.
And chaos and eldar and every other bad guy so dont be modest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 16:26:44
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Beaviz81 wrote:No I took it from the movie Zulu. There the Brits actually used range-sticks, and since they are based on them I think it's safe to assume they are the masters of the fighting square and beating range-sticks into the ground (not that it need to be that bad a method of fighting). You seriously should see the movie, it's quite awesome for a 1964 film.
But for the best of the best I think the Praetorians of Skitarii simply is towering over everyone else in the Imperial Guard.
Dude everyone has seen Zulu by now. It's a classic.
They are based on them in aesthetic and they also have the same discipline thing but apart from that they are different.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 18:09:47
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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I like your style, but...
MrMoustaffa wrote:Basically you have to narrow it down a bit. There is no one regiment best at everything. There is no "ultramarines" equivalent for the IG.
..this is the best answer.
Beaviz81 wrote:There the Brits actually used range-sticks, and since they are based on them I think it's safe to assume they are the masters of the fighting square and beating range-sticks into the ground (not that it need to be that bad a method of fighting). You seriously should see the movie, it's quite awesome for a 1964 film.
Whilst I don't want to seem to be pendantic & picky it's actually Zulu Dawn where the range-sticks are banged into the ground by the buglers at 100 yard intervals, just before the Zulu's get their groove on at Isandlwana. It was released in 1979, one hundred years after the battle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 19:42:59
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
United States
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Im going to put my money down on Cadians followed by Krieg
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 20:19:10
Subject: Re:Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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I must agree that, although the question posed certainly leaves space for choice, no regiment really deserves a title as the best due to their individual roles - For example, I can't see the Minervan Tank Legions being too good at airbourne insertions.
However, If I had to really pick one that stands out for me it's gotta be the Praetorian Guard - you've gotta have balls of adamantium to stand in neat ranks and deliver precise volleys despite high explosive shot ripping you apart and your sergeant berating you for loose buttons!  (That goes for the 18th/19th Century British Infantry too)... mind you that's probably based on a bias considering I'm British.
This is probably a bit OT, so sorry in advance, but one thing that irks me about that the Praetorians is that they are based on the very worst parts of the British Empire. Now I'm no apologist and the British Empire had darker moments, but I reckon it's undeniable that we Brits did the world some good as well during the Empire years and to take that view (whole population are slaves, rulers are fantastically rich) is a bit simplistic IMHO.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 20:40:52
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Cadia, they have by far the largest IG regiment, and some of the best-trained Imperial Guardsmen in the Galaxy..
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Muh Black Templars
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 20:56:31
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Terrifying Doombull
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Either the Praetorians or the DkoK wins this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 20:58:59
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
Eboli, Italy
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Catachans. Come on, they can make LICTORS fall in their ambushes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 21:17:59
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Ruthless Rafkin
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Valhallans, of course. But I must confess I am a bit biased.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 21:27:41
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Elysians, but when looking at it from GW's perspective, Cadians, for they are the Ultramarines of the Imperial Guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/17 07:07:28
Subject: Re:Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Douglas Bader
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DKoK, without question.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/17 07:10:04
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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Agreed, the DKoK is by far the most interesting IG faction, and no army in the game comes close to having models as cool as DKoK Grenadiers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/17 07:11:43
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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Probably the Cadians, tbh.
Quite a few regiments might be better at some things, but the Cadians excel to some extent at everything. No one is better than them at everything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/17 09:03:19
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Been Around the Block
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Likely the Cadians, but I'd like to give an honourable mention to the Savlar Chem Dogs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/17 09:16:26
Subject: Re:Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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Consider my nationality (not the country I'm in but the one I'm from), now guess who I voted for.
The DKoK ooze badass however, and there are no finer guardsmen for taking or defending a strategic point, and heck one colonel only died after slaughtering a literal mountain of tyranids in close combat.
And the Cadians are probably trained to the highest standard and are the model upon which most of the Imperial guard bases itself on.
And the Steel Legion has defeated the armies of a god damn daemon primarch and the biggest warboss ever, twice.
The Catachans are some of the only guardsmen who can reliably deal with Tyranids in close combat and are probably the definitive Tyranid killers in the IG.
The Elysians are highly trained, very elite, possibly even more so than the Cadians, and they're pretty much the masters of maneuver warfare and air superiority.
The Tallarns can be counted to always remain faithful to the emperor, they're heroic masters of desert warfare, guerilla campaigns, and skilled usage of fast moving armored formations.
But feth it, I love Russia. And I love Valhalla. We have the hordes of men, we have the fast running and numerous tanks, we can swarm the skies too, we have stone cold badasses like krieg, we are the Warsaw pact to Cadia's NATO in terms of how we fight. And plus we have Ciaphas Cain and Jurgen.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/17 09:24:55
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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Personally, I'd like to believe the Death Korps of Krieg were the best, and indeed in their specialty are likely unrivaled, and likely produce the most fearless, hardened soldiers, but I'd imagine that tactically they would be pretty unflexible, compared to Cadians.
But the DKoK are so awesome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/17 09:27:11
Subject: Which Imperial Guard regiment is best?
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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Void__Dragon wrote:Personally, I'd like to believe the Death Korps of Krieg were the best, and indeed in their specialty are likely unrivaled, and likely produce the most fearless, hardened soldiers, but I'd imagine that tactically they would be pretty unflexible, compared to Cadians.
But the DKoK are so awesome.
Hey now, sometimes they use end of world war 1 era tactics (proto-blitzkrieg).
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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