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2015/03/12 21:55:39
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Banner of Macragge
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
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Be sure you draw some scaled down versions before you jump on the banner
How thick is your Micro pen?
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2015/03/12 22:13:13
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Banner of Macragge
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Zambro wrote:Be sure you draw some scaled down versions before you jump on the banner
How thick is your Micro pen?
Really stupidly small: .2mm. And it might have been a good idea, but not what I did.
I was going to edit more pictures into the last post, but I guess I’ll post them here.
Inked:
w/ gold:
Needs a bit of cleanup, but overall not bad.
And The Wife is calling me for dinner, more updates later.
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2015/03/16 23:04:39
Subject: Re:Nevelon’s Workbench: Banner of Macragge
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Front and back,
Borne into battle
With the rest of the HG
From a bookkeeping POV I’m not sure if I’m going to count the banner as a model equivalent, or as odds and ends that needed to be done. I’ll see what the count looks like at the end of the year. New techniques/tools used on this are a few. The math/plotting/sketching is not something I normally do. But for intricate freehand, is probably a good idea. The micron pen saw a lot of use on this project. Outlining the Ultra symbol, putting a blackline around the inside of the gold border, and scribbling the hell out of the parchments! Overall, was fun to do. I can see why the Word Bearer’s do it all over the place. <glances at the Chaplain> I probably shouldn’t have said that aloud. Gotta run!
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2015/03/16 23:07:13
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Banner of Macragge
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Nice work, looks just right for the HG, I'll have to come back here for notes when I get around to potentially doing my own someday.
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2015/03/17 01:08:31
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Banner of Macragge
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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Cool banner Nevelon. Reminds me of the good ole days when they put paper banners on marines. Tried it myself. The results are best not spoken of.......
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2015/03/17 01:17:23
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Banner of Macragge
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They look really good Nev. That banner was the perfect touch!
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2015/03/17 10:26:46
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Banner of Macragge
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
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It agree with Gits, the banner really finishes the squad off!
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2015/03/17 13:22:39
Subject: Re:Nevelon’s Workbench: Banner of Macragge
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Thanks guys. The lines are a little wobbly in places, but overall I’m happy with the results. And having a blinged out banner is so much better then an empty stick in the squad. Now I just need to find 170 points in my next UM list to field these guys. Plus a CM, which should be Calgar. Maybe instead of my Eldar I should bring the Ultras to the next Wednesday league night. See how much fresh paint I can fit into the 1,250 points we are up to now. Less worries about winning then if I commit to a 3 game tournament.
@40kFSU: Most of my banners are the old sticker ones. I’ve hand painted a few over the years. The best results were the photocopy and color in the lines ones. Somewhere (I couldn’t find it) is a BA banner I did for my terminator captain. Soooooo bad. But my old Ultra banner from the back the RT painting guide came out well.
Some banners:
The big 3
Color in the lines RT:
I’ve got a sticker!
My sticker is bigger.
Some old BA freehand work. Not bad all things considered.
Besides slowly plugging away at the dwarf, I need to find something new to paint. I’m sure I’ll think of something.
Happy St. Patricks day all.
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2015/03/17 13:33:28
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Banner of Macragge
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ah yes... the old, perpetually broken, las cannon sponsons from the Mk-1 land raider...
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2015/03/17 23:08:11
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Banner of Macragge
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Yep mine are broke...
I like your range of banners, I remember that painting guide! I've got a version of the UM Chapter banner I did as a back banner for some reason back in my 2nd Ed army, I'll try to photo it.
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My combined Macragge PDF Imperial Guard and Ultramarine 3rd Co. Blog Clicky
My WAB Hundred Years War English Clicky
AlexHolker wrote:At this stage, I'm starting to think GW's CEO was just getting ready for the Rapture |
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2015/03/17 23:14:46
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Banner of Macragge
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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One of these days I’ll turn my old, half melted LR into a terrain piece. But that’s a very low priority half-baked thought.
I’ve put a lot of progress in on the crimson hunter today. It’s painting up fast Orks must be right about the red ones. When vehicles are not cluttered with baroque ornamentation, you can just slap the paint on with little effort. So far I’ve got two coats of the red down, and just put the first black. I might go back and black out some more panels for contrast, still undecided. I’m also not sure if I want to add in the bone parches of the official crimson hunter paint job, or just stick with the red and black. Also not sure if I’m going to give it the Saim-Hann stripe. I’ll try to get some pics up later. Opinions?
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Pic
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2015/03/17 23:20:34
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Banner of Macragge
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Stick with red n black and do the stripe.
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My combined Macragge PDF Imperial Guard and Ultramarine 3rd Co. Blog Clicky
My WAB Hundred Years War English Clicky
AlexHolker wrote:At this stage, I'm starting to think GW's CEO was just getting ready for the Rapture |
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2015/03/18 01:16:42
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Start of a Crimson Hunter
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
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...Out of no where, comes the Crimson Hunter! The coverage looks decent, overall. Might need another layer or two of red?
A chevron or two would fit in nicely!
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2015/03/18 13:01:01
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Start of a Crimson Hunter
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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Man those banners take me back. Especially the RT guy with the flag. Really cool. Nice color choice for the flier too.
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2015/03/18 13:12:31
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Banner of Macragge
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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RandyMcStab wrote:Stick with red n black and do the stripe.
Zambro wrote:...Out of no where, comes the Crimson Hunter! The coverage looks decent, overall. Might need another layer or two of red?
A chevron or two would fit in nicely!
I was leaning towards the pure red/black scheme myself, but was still on the fence. Having a third color there to break stuff up and accent can be nice, and there is not a lot of opportunity for that on the hunter. I was thinking about blacklineing the gaps, or maybe putting a wash in there to help break things up. The thought crossed my mind to edge highlight all the panels, but I think that might be the madness talking. Of course, actually doing something with the gems would get some color in there...
I’ll aim to put a chevron centered on the back, and then a stripe across the nose, parallel.
I’m kinda shocked how fast this bird is shaping up. It could be that I want to field it in an army, and really like the model. So it’s getting double-barreled motivation. You are probably right Zambro about needing another coat of red. While the Khorne Red is a base paint, it still doesn’t cover quite as well as I’d like. The curse of reds. At least it works better then the mildly thick washes the rest of my red collection is.
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2015/03/20 14:03:11
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Start of a Crimson Hunter
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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OK, Friday, time for an update.
Put more black down, and drybrushed the stuff that needed the silver. Started on the cockpit and the pilot. Chugging along. Was holding off on the next coat of red until I finished the silver/black, as I need to cleanup some slop from that.
No game on Wed. Most of the crew was off in Chicago for Adeptecon, and I guess the rest stayed home. FLGS was very quiet. Hung out with the guys running the shop, so not a total loss of an evening, would have been better with a game though.
Snow continues to slowly melt, although we still get intermittent cold snaps. Someday spring will come, and the rattle can will be released upon the pile of grey plastic. Speaking of which, I should add more to that. Like the riders for the jetbikes. They are not going to assemble themselves
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2015/03/22 00:54:26
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: A short break from Eldar
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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OK, finished the old stunty. Used a little more highlighting then I normally do, particularly with the silver, but a little on the cloak as well. Freehand on the shield was shamelessly stolen from Weety’s blog who’s foray into ancient dwarves inspired me to dust off this guy and give him a little freehand work. Obviously her work is much better then mine, but I tried. From a technical POV, I used the mica pen to help clean up/line the freehand. And you thought the black background was accidental! For those keeping track, his tab said “Fighter” and I couldn’t see a date. I also have no idea why he has a boar on his head. Or whatever that thing is supposed to be. But he’s done now, so will go join the ranks on the D&D shelf, just in case we need a dwarf fighter in light armor.
Eldar will continue promply, I just couldn’t resist a dwarf joke. Just had to toss that up there in the title.
Just a a note, mostly to myself. KR is running a BOGO sale until mid next month for their new sized cases. Sounds like time to get more foam. In case I loose the little slip of paper I did all my work on, here is what I’m planning on getting:
KRX #1 (150% taller then a basic KRU)
SM15 (stormraven, dread, 12 troops) Full width, full hight
EL5 ( WS, 4 bikes) 1/2 hight, half width
EL1 + EL1 (2xFalcon) 1/2 hight, half width
KRX #2 (all trays half width)
EL 23 (crimson hunter) 3/4 high
F4H (18 troops) 1/4 high
EL1 + EL4 (falcon, 5 bikes) 1/2 high
SM7 + SM23 (3 dreads, 2 speeders) 2/3 high
F3H (18 troops) 1/3 high
EL2 + EL4 (2 vipers, 7 bikes) 1/2 high
Note to self, check and see if I can get the non- SM stuff in red, while the SM stuff is blue. Also, look into if I can get it though the FLGS without causing Mark undue problems to utilize store credit.
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2015/03/22 10:56:07
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: A short break from Eldar
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
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Nice freehand! You've really been pushing the boat out with painting techniques latey. They look great, keep it up!
I'm not really up on KR.. So most of what you have written doesn't make sense to me... But is it necessary to get enough boxes to hold everything when you keep your stuff on a shelf and very rarely travel with it all at once?
I get bags and foam from a European company called Feldherr. Their bags are a lot more subtle, not massive plastic boxes with ' GW' on the side I only have one bag, but I have 9 foam trays. Between those 9 trays, I can usually work out a combination of 3/4 that will hold everything I want to carry. I dont find it necessary to get myself another bag.
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2015/03/22 12:52:08
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: A short break from Eldar
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Zambro wrote:Nice freehand! You've really been pushing the boat out with painting techniques latey. They look great, keep it up!
I'm not really up on KR.. So most of what you have written doesn't make sense to me... But is it necessary to get enough boxes to hold everything when you keep your stuff on a shelf and very rarely travel with it all at once?
I get bags and foam from a European company called Feldherr. Their bags are a lot more subtle, not massive plastic boxes with ' GW' on the side I only have one bag, but I have 9 foam trays. Between those 9 trays, I can usually work out a combination of 3/4 that will hold everything I want to carry. I dont find it necessary to get myself another bag.
I figure after a few decades painting, I should probably try to improve.
As for the foam, it’s not so much the volume, but the shape. Last time I dragged the stormraven up, I had to pack it in a spare box with scraps of foam. It’s sooo much nicer to just plop it into its own slot and call it a day. And right now all the Eldar stuff need to travel ala scrap.. Not all of use just toss our larger vehicles in our backpacks. The only reason I’m getting any more troop-sized trays is to fill up the boxes. With what I have now I can move ~166 basic footsloggers with the KR I have. And if I break out my old GW case, another 108 guys.
The KR system I have uses foam, boxes, and bags. I’ve got a Kaiser 3 bag, which can hold 3 KRU (the cardboard boxes). Each of the boxes has all the nice custom foam, which I do swap around depending on what list I’m packing. Right now I’ve got 4 standard sized boxes. When I place this order, I’ll have the equivalent of 7, as the new ones are 150% taller, but otherwise the same. So I’m not talking about getting more bags, just more trays. They just happen to come in boxes. While you can get the foam trays separately, it can actually work out to being more expensive then just getting a new box full of custom foam. And at buy one, get one free, what I have specced out should run around $100. Automatically Appended Next Post:
All masked up, hopefully lined up. Asked The Wife for her opinion. “Honey, does this look bi-lateraly symmetrical to you?” is not a phrase you use every day. Actually using masking tape to mask, whoda think it.
And with a little paint and the tape removed. Still need to clean up the work, but the lines are down. I think I’ll continue the stripe up to the fins, so it matches with the black flaps. Also need to put black on the canopy. In the final stretch for this one. Need to figure out what to do next.
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2015/03/22 18:47:07
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: A short break from Eldar
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
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Nevelon wrote:Not all of use just toss our larger vehicles in our backpacks.
Haha!
In my defence, they've been varnished, and are wrapped in a hand towel!
(...Still, I know... far from ideal)...
Loving the chevron / stripe.
Next up; you could line those panels. Take some wash, using a regular detail brush, and put it into the panel lines. You might have some touch ups to do around the edges, but thats no problem. Maybe even your micro pen fits in it?
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2015/03/22 19:11:17
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Who was that masked jet?
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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The smallest micron pen almost definitely will.. just be aware that you'll tear the pen up pretty fast using it for that kind of work. Kind of worth it though. Another option is oil paint pin-washing, apparently it's the shiz for doing panel lines... as far as I can tell it's virtually the same as dipping with woodstain (or army painter tones), but *only* for the panel lines, so a lot more careful, slower, and tedious The black lines definitely break up the ship though. It looks good. That's the eldar ship? Looks a lot like the dark eldar one. Or are there two of those now... I stopped keeping track.
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2015/03/22 19:23:15
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Who was that masked jet?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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I'll probably do black lines, not sure if I'll use the pen if it will wreck it. Not going to start with oils, while cool, it's a level of work I'm not up to dealing with.
It's the craftworld eldar crimson hunter. Aethetically close to the DE ones, but less spiky bits.
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2015/03/22 19:34:24
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Who was that masked jet?
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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I don't know if using a micron pen on one plane will kill it, but I filled in a bunch of lines on some bases I was doing, probably 2-3mm square tiled floors, that wore it out pretty quickly. Of course, even the namebrand microns aren't that expensive.
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2015/03/22 19:54:51
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Who was that masked jet?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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GrimDork wrote:I don't know if using a micron pen on one plane will kill it, but I filled in a bunch of lines on some bases I was doing, probably 2-3mm square tiled floors, that wore it out pretty quickly. Of course, even the namebrand microns aren't that expensive.
I started doing the blacklineing with an brush. Figured better safe then sorry. Done with the top already, I’ll do the rest later. Some will have to be done after I glue everything together, as the seem of the two parts will need to be lined.
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2015/03/23 14:38:38
Subject: Re:Nevelon’s Workbench: Who was that masked jet?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Finished the black lining, next step is to clean up the red.
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2015/03/23 14:53:42
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Who was that masked jet?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Very nice Nev. Good job with the black areas. Really adds interest.
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2015/03/23 17:32:28
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Who was that masked jet?
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
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Look great!
You can probably see for yourself that the lining really adds to the model overall.
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2015/03/23 18:09:12
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Who was that masked jet?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Gitsplitta wrote:Very nice Nev. Good job with the black areas. Really adds interest.
Zambro wrote:Look great!
You can probably see for yourself that the lining really adds to the model overall.
I needed to do something. I don’t want to re-vist the total black wash of my old vehicles, but it needed something besides just the flat red. Black lining is a good compromise. Happy the way it turned out.
Here is the bird all glued together:
Once it has had a decent time to set, I’ll go back and give it another round of touch ups. Although I’d field it as-is in a pinch. Automatically Appended Next Post: OK, the Crimson Hunter is done. Final look is not that far off from the last one, so we’ll just call that the “finished” pic. As we are almost at the end of March, lets get a Q1 review:
4 Deathwatch
Farseer on bike
Spiritseer w/staff
Dwarf
HG w/relic blade
Banner of Macragge
Crimson Hunter
Look at that! I’m ahead of the game. Well, with my creative accounting. Bikes=2 models, and vehicles=4. And that’s not even counting the banner as a mini. Which I might end up doing at the end of the year.
Besides the model a week goal, I also wanted to hit 1,000 point of new eldar painted. WYSWYG, no hidden upgrades I’ve got 350 now. About a third of the way, so once again ahead of schedule.
Cue slacking off...
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2015/03/24 01:12:07
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Who was that masked jet?
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Yep, that looks good. The black lines and chevron, and the panel lining both make it look nice.
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2015/03/24 02:20:12
Subject: Nevelon’s Workbench: Who was that masked jet?
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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I'll second everyone else. Stripes and lining look great.
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