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What would they call the next one? X-Box 2?

Hmm, hard to judge at this stage, but this certainly isn't helped by the lack of games on show for either console. It does seem Microsoft is looking at exclusives aplenty mind.

I think chances are I'll still be looking at both, but I am very thankful it looks like the points will transfer over, I don't mind XBLA stuff going, I wasn't expecting it to all transfer over overnight at their end anyway, so the idea of the stuff I've downloaded being trapped 360 side isn't the end of the world, but a clean slate on the points may have been a nail in my decision over the two machines if I did pick one.

Backwards compatibility doesn't surprise me, but a shame, although at least this time I have three 360's to keep safely in the closet to play older games. (Unlike my poor old xbox that died and removed my ability to play Timesplitters.)

All the media stuff is a big meh from me, but then so was the stuff in the PS4 announce, the kinect thing is annoying, but I hope I can turn it off like the current one, being part of the console is one thing, being on would be another.

Apart from that, nothing else I've seen bothers me any, I enjoyed the rage last night about the Paying full price for borrowed games, until someone from Microsoft clarified what they meant. Although I don't think much of the rage stopped.

I just hope the danged thing has a bloody big hard drive, as if this console lasts as long as the 360, that is a lot of games we'd need to install.

I'll probably wait a couple of years for it to go down in price and than compare and contrast it with the PS4 and then decide which I'll buy (maybe even both).


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I still have plenty of 360 games I want to beat so I have no desire to rush out and buy this on release day.

I can't see myself getting one of these. I mean, the features and technology involved are pretty neat, but I don't want or need voice-recognition, motion-sensors or Kinect. I think the pre-owned games fee is a bit of a joke, bordering on a bit of an insult to be honest: Previously there has been no issue about pre-owned games as far as I'm aware, and now they just want to make a few bucks out of it.

If they release a version with fewer features like the old 360 Arcade then I might be tempted, but as it stands, I'm not interested at all, in fact I'm rather put-off by the concept of the Kinect watching and recording my every movement: if it came to that I'd just stick a photo of my balls over the lens and see who gives in first.

If EA can be made to feel bad abouy online passes for second hand games and change their policy, im not really sure why microsoft is so busy going ahead with making account locked features a big thing.

I have no inyerest in kinect and dont want the system connected to my xbox all the time listening and watching in. I have no interest in controlling my console by voice or flailing my arms.

I dont have a problem putting discs into the console to play games so why have installs for all gamea?

Console itself is fugly.

The gamea are going to cost a minimum of 60 quid new (my own preduction) and them i may well have to pay for additional keys for my wife to play.

Be much cheaper in the long run to fix up my pc and hook it up to the tv for games and tv.

 illuknisaa wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Perkustin wrote:
Well that was awful....

Hahahah!

Well I guess we know which side will win this generation's console war.

Win?

To me it looks like they all lose because none of them has any gaems.

Sony seems to be playing their cards well right now. All they have to do is look at all the negative rumors swirling around the new Xbox that Microsoft doesn't even deny and say "Hey everyone, we're not gonna do that."

Microsoft and Sony haven't been major proponents of pushing their consoles with games for a long time. Why bother when multi-platform titles are the mainstay of the market? Microsoft is certainly pushing the 'we have exclusives button' but they don't even say what those exclusives are and they're all probably kinect games anyway (+ Halo + Respawn Entertainment). Even the past couple E3's for both companies were much more about selling console features (that no one really wanted kinect *cough cough*) rather than selling games. The games will come on their own.

Also:

Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Battlefield 4
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Cyberpunk 2077
Deep Down
Destiny Bungie
Diablo III
Doki Doki Universe
Driveclub
Hohokum
Infamous: Second Son
Killzone: Shadow Fall
Knack
Lords of the Fallen
Primal Carnage: Genesis
Project Heart and Soul
The Evil Within
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
The Witness
Thief
War Thunder
Watch Dogs
Wolfenstein: The New Order

^^^ The list of games known to be in development for the PS4. At least five are known to be in development for the XBox 1 but we can safely assume that all these games will be on both consoles save Kill Zone and Diablo III.

Console itself is fugly.

I still say it looks like a Beta Max player. That makes it retro.

 LordofHats wrote:

 illuknisaa wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Perkustin wrote:
Well that was awful....

Hahahah!

Well I guess we know which side will win this generation's console war.

Win?

To me it looks like they all lose because none of them has any gaems.

Sony seems to be playing their cards well right now. All they have to do is look at all the negative rumors swirling around the new Xbox that Microsoft doesn't even deny and say "Hey everyone, we're not gonna do that."

Microsoft and Sony haven't been major proponents of pushing their consoles with games for a long time. Why bother when multi-platform titles are the mainstay of the market? Microsoft is certainly pushing the 'we have exclusives button' but they don't even say what those exclusives are and they're all probably kinect games anyway (+ Halo + Respawn Entertainment). Even the past couple E3's for both companies were much more about selling console features (that no one really wanted kinect *cough cough*) rather than selling games. The games will come on their own.

Also:

Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Battlefield 4
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Cyberpunk 2077
Deep Down
Destiny Bungie
Diablo III
Doki Doki Universe
Driveclub
Hohokum
Infamous: Second Son
Killzone: Shadow Fall
Knack
Lords of the Fallen
Primal Carnage: Genesis
Project Heart and Soul
The Evil Within
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
The Witness
Thief
War Thunder
Watch Dogs
Wolfenstein: The New Order

^^^ The list of games known to be in development for the PS4. At least five are known to be in development for the XBox 1 but we can safely assume that all these games will be on both consoles save Kill Zone and Diablo III.

Console itself is fugly.

I still say it looks like a Beta Max player. That makes it retro.

Giant shoulder pads are retro too and they still look stupid

 Just Dave wrote:
Personally, I feel it's too early to be giving up on it yet: I feel there's a lot of time for things to change and more stuff revealed.

It's not looking hopeful, yeah, but hey, it's not like I'm gonna buy a playstation!

Xbox One is a terrible name though. Surely that would be the original Xbox. 720 or (more so) infinity were much better names IMHO.

I dunno if I agree completely or not. I will agree its not very hopeful right now, I know I certainly WONT buy Xbox1.............and speaking of.....yea, terrible fracking name. I mean.......blech! Name a worse named system..... I dare ya

 KingCracker wrote:
Name a worse named system..... I dare ya

Color TV Game. No really. There was a console called Color TV Game.

 kenshin620 wrote:

I agree with Chad

I'm honestly not sure about these new consoles, they don't seem a great deal different from what we already have. Sure there are a new bunch of toys packaged with them but what will they bring games wise? If it's just going to be a whole new batch of exactly the same thing we have now then whats the point to them.

 KingCracker wrote:

 Just Dave wrote:
Personally, I feel it's too early to be giving up on it yet: I feel there's a lot of time for things to change and more stuff revealed.

It's not looking hopeful, yeah, but hey, it's not like I'm gonna buy a playstation!

Xbox One is a terrible name though. Surely that would be the original Xbox. 720 or (more so) infinity were much better names IMHO.

I dunno if I agree completely or not. I will agree its not very hopeful right now, I know I certainly WONT buy Xbox1.............and speaking of.....yea, terrible fracking name. I mean.......blech! Name a worse named system..... I dare ya

Ummm... Uhhhh... Well... Ummmm...

We all had a chuckle at "Wii" at first?

 Just Dave wrote:

Ummm... Uhhhh... Well... Ummmm...

We all had a chuckle at "Wii" at first?

Oh ho ho, I still do

Wee ...

 Just Dave wrote:

 KingCracker wrote:

 Just Dave wrote:
Personally, I feel it's too early to be giving up on it yet: I feel there's a lot of time for things to change and more stuff revealed.

It's not looking hopeful, yeah, but hey, it's not like I'm gonna buy a playstation!

Xbox One is a terrible name though. Surely that would be the original Xbox. 720 or (more so) infinity were much better names IMHO.

I dunno if I agree completely or not. I will agree its not very hopeful right now, I know I certainly WONT buy Xbox1.............and speaking of.....yea, terrible fracking name. I mean.......blech! Name a worse named system..... I dare ya

Ummm... Uhhhh... Well... Ummmm...

We all had a chuckle at "Wii" at first?

Ill be honest, when I first saw the name of the Wii, I thought it was pronounced WHY. And I thought "WTF would you name it WHY for?!?" lol


Thought Color TV Game takes the cake. I will still say, that was an OLD system lol. Youd think a company would name it better then XBOXone.....god that isnt getting any better

 Just Dave wrote:


Ummm... Uhhhh... Well... Ummmm...

We all had a chuckle at "Wii" at first?

How many core games wii has? 0?

 LordofHats wrote:

 illuknisaa wrote:

Win?

To me it looks like they all lose because none of them has any gaems.

Also:

Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Battlefield 4
Call of Duty: Ghosts
Cyberpunk 2077
Deep Down
Destiny Bungie
Diablo III
Doki Doki Universe
Driveclub
Hohokum
Infamous: Second Son
Killzone: Shadow Fall
Knack
Lords of the Fallen
Primal Carnage: Genesis
Project Heart and Soul
The Evil Within
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
The Witness
Thief
War Thunder
Watch Dogs
Wolfenstein: The New Order

^^^ The list of games known to be in development for the PS4. At least five are known to be in development for the XBox 1 but we can safely assume that all these games will be on both consoles save Kill Zone and Diablo III.

Most of those games will have/ has a pc port and that means the best version is the pc version. Rest are propably not worth your time.

3DO, Jaguar 64, Mega CD.. off the top of my head.

However I do agree its a bloody odd choice, I imagine it was an emergency name change after Disney announced Infinity.

Oh and is Diablo 3 a confirmed PS4 exclusive... if so I'll be getting one regardless.

I assume it is exclusive to PS4 on the console front as a PS4 version was suspected and announced quite some time ago but no word at all on an Xbox version of the game. My suspicion is that the RMAH and XBL as concepts don't get along (i.e. Microsoft ain't gonna allow it unless they get their cut, and Acti-Blizz gave them the middle finger).

So far Sony is winning me over with the "Not a Douche Bag about Always Online" card, though there's still room for Microsoft to put those rumors to rest until release. I like my PC but consoles are where I have to go to get my JRPG fix, and Play Station has always had the leg up on that front anyway. Unfortunately I loathe Sony hardware >.< It's like choosing between a giant douche and a turd sandwich. Someone should make a tv episode about that.

I think it is their own fault the reaction is this way, however, this could all be quickly forgotten at E3 if they have a strong and detailed showing -

 Pilau Rice wrote:

 Just Dave wrote:

Ummm... Uhhhh... Well... Ummmm...

We all had a chuckle at "Wii" at first?

Oh ho ho, I still do

Wee ...

Still.

The moneh.

the presentation was horrible, the xbox looks like a VCR if anyone remembers what those are, what is this being based around TV I have this unique button on my remote called TV/Video that allows me to toggle between cable and my game system and are they seriously basing a COD game around a dog companion that looks like a cry for help, and motion controlled Kinect is still on it? after seeing this im glad I have a WiiU they seem to know what a gaming system is for, just goes to show that companies have run out of ideas.

Even though I have a PS3 (draws in hate) I still thought of one good thing about the Xbox one....no 9yr olds on CoD as they cannot afford a Xbox one (unless they are rich)
also bill gates cant count.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
I think it is their own fault the reaction is this way, however, this could all be quickly forgotten at E3 if they have a strong and detailed showing -

I don't think that's true.

Microsoft had made it clear that the thing yesterday was about unveiling the console, not the full catalog of launch games.

Medium of Death and I watched the reveal yesterday on XBL, talking the whole while. It sucks that they did not unveil everything coming out...but at the same time, this close to E3 that would have been just as bad.
Microsoft came out hard with things which are going to solidify some sales to undecided.
Having exclusives for FIFA and Madden?
That's a big deal to some people.
Having DLC access "first" for Call of Duty: Ghosts?
Again, that's a big deal to some people.

15 exclusives, with 8 of them being "new properties" and 7 of them being returning properties(of which you can pretty much guarantee Halo is one) is also a "big deal" in early adoption rates for consoles.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Having exclusives for FIFA and Madden?

Wow, if that's correct.. that is massive, bigger than anything else I've seen. I know a load of folks who will get a xbox regardless of other factors if that is true.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Having exclusives for FIFA and Madden?

Wow, if that's correct.. that is massive, bigger than anything else I've seen. I know a load of folks who will get a xbox regardless of other factors if that is true.

That was something they actually announced during the Xbox One reveal yesterday.
FIFA's "Ultimate Teams" are Xbox Exclusive and Madden has some exclusives; alongside of Microsoft actually now 'sponsoring' the various NFL teams with technological support.

Ah, team exclusives.. for a second there I thought you meant game. Not as much of an issue.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Ah, team exclusives.. for a second there I thought you meant game. Not as much of an issue.

Yeah, sports games aren't big on exclusivity.

Forza is going to be a big draw, but PS4 has its own exclusive racing game to counter.
With the sports crowd, it usually comes down to who has what exclusives and whether or not the playerbase want them.

With game installs and disc-less gaming i wonder if the disks will have some unique identifier on them the machine can recognise to prevent people just splitting the cost of a new game between them and then buying a play code for much less than the cost new...

I know PC gamers like to crow about "master race" but what it fails to deliver is adequate multi-seat for me and my family. It's primarily a one-person, one-screen type of gaming experiance - with all the ipods, iphones and nooks that my kids have their noses buried in, I'd rather not fire up a system that takes me even further away from interacting with people in the same room.

With a console, at least I can have friends and family over and we can enjoy the same game experiance

 Cheesecat wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
It's sad how they try to dress its appearance up as something more than the plastic box that it is.

Couldn't that be said of the promotion of any game console?

Aren't PC's boxes of plastic as well?

Yes, but you don't see videos of Antec cases having their lines intimately followed by the camera like taht

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Ah, team exclusives.. for a second there I thought you meant game. Not as much of an issue.

Well if they made certain teams exclusive like Broncos only on Xbox and Seahwks on PS4

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Oh and is Diablo 3 a confirmed PS4 exclusive... if so I'll be getting one regardless.

Technically it can't be PS4 exclusive, since it's already been released on the PC.


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Swan-of-War wrote:
I know PC gamers like to crow about "master race"

Actually, it's mostly the more trollish console players that mention that term.