What do you think Sisters of Battle would get for an epic unit?

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**Troike**

AegisGrimm wrote:
I would assume that fluffwise, that rather than have anything of their own, the SoB would rely upon whatever Superheavy Tank or Imperial Knight that is being used by the Imperial Guard regiments fighting alongside them.

Not necessarily. They own their own Rhinos and such. No reason they can't own a big tank of their own.

**Lynata**

Or spaceships and aircraft, for that matter.

**kinratha**

Sisters of battle will be lucky if they get a codex first.

**TheCustomLime**

Something that spams flamer templates like no tomorrow. That would be pretty cool, actually.

**dementedwombat**

I'm digging the "close support flier" idea. I'd personally love for one army's "epic unit" to be a flier. Kind of like a Tau Manta only not completely over the top enormous.

**Veteran Sergeant**

Shandara wrote:
Since SoB requisition units from the Navy/IG I'd say Baneblades and their variants. I wouldn't say no to a special SoB Warhound variant though.

Why not? You could put a skirt and a corset on it.

**Pouncey**

TheCustomLime wrote:
Something that spams flamer templates like no tomorrow. That would be pretty cool, actually.

More flamer templates than a Burna-wagon?

**Totalwar1402**

Spetulhu wrote:
Totalwar1402 wrote:
No other ideas or musings?

The Living Saint ala DoW series released as a huge plastic kit. Flying Monstrous Creature, incredibly tough and dangerous... and it stands back up when you kill it.

Um, the Soulstorm making Living Saints as big as bloodthirsters is a little bit silly

. Yes, you could argue that the likes of Sabbat from Gaunts Ghost are that powerful or in that league. But, its hard to imagine why the transformation would turn the woman into a giant angel ala Greater Daemon or chaos mutations. Generally the Emperors power doesn't have that much of a physical influence and it would be just slightly too silly for most people; having a giant angel stomping around setting fire to people. I'd think it was awesome myself. But it just wouldn't work, would be just too outrageous and the fluff would be outrageous to justify it happening.

**cygnnus**

Troike wrote:
sudojoe wrote:
My vote is for an even giant-er saint like Machiarius reborn or something that shoots lazers from his eyes.

Anyone consider the possibility that sisters could get the baneblade if we're sharing with IG? Takes 2 Heavy slots to fill one but has 9 HP's and such!

Either those or a giant catherial tank would be ok with me too.

Why not combine the two? A cathedral themed baneblade. With an inferno cannon.

Like this?

http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/kris-kuksi-church-tank/

Valete,

JohnS

**Pouncey**

Totalwar1402 wrote:
Spetulhu wrote:
Totalwar1402 wrote:
No other ideas or musings?

The Living Saint ala DoW series released as a huge plastic kit. Flying Monstrous Creature, incredibly tough and dangerous... and it stands back up when you kill it.

Um, the Soulstorm making Living Saints as big as bloodthirsters is a little bit silly . Yes, you could argue that the likes of Sabbat from Gaunts Ghost are that powerful or in that league. But, its hard to imagine why the transformation would turn the woman into a giant angel ala Greater Daemon or chaos mutations. Generally the Emperors power doesn't have that much of a physical influence and it would be just slightly too silly for most people; having a giant angel stomping around setting fire to people. I'd think it was awesome myself. But it just wouldn't work, would be just too outrageous and the fluff would be outrageous to justify it happening.

The actual Living Saint model is more normally human-sized. Comes on a 40mm base and is probably approaching the height of a dreadnought, but it's because her feet are well off the ground, and she comes with a massive backdrop held up by cherubs.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1250094_99060108061_INQWHSoBStCmain_873x627.jpg

Edit: At least I THINK she comes on a 40mm base. Maybe I just built mine on a 40mm base for stability.

**Solis Luna Astrum**

I like the Land Raider idea. Call it the Land Raider Repentant. Give is sponson mounted twin linked Heavy Flamers and a top mounted twin linked Heavy Incinerator.

Add armored tanks to the outsides of the model to hold the flamer fuel and give it a transport capacity of 20 PA clad Sisters. Add a special rule that allows for two separate squads to deploy in the vehicle at the same time, and allow each to act independently when leaving the vehicle. How cool would it be to have the vehicle roll up and the Sisters inside dismount and charge two different units at the same time.

GW or Forgeworld could provide all this with a simple upgrade kit for the Land Raider Crusader/Redeemer kit.

Another fun rule, since the fuel tanks are mounted on the sides and rear of the vehicle if the model is 'exploded' with a penetrating hit from the side or rear you place the large blast template against the side of the fuel tank and any models under it take a hit with strength and ap equal to the flamers profile.

Place the Heavy Flamers on the front sponsons and the side fuel tanks on the rear sponsons. The model gains transport capacity but looses the side exits of the vehicle.

**Pouncey**

Solis Luna Astrum wrote:
I like the Land Raider idea. Call it the Land Raider Repentant. Give is sponson mounted twin linked Heavy Flamers and a top mounted twin linked Heavy Incinerator.

Add armored tanks to the outsides of the model to hold the flamer fuel and give it a transport capacity of 20 PA clad Sisters. Add a special rule that allows for two separate squads to deploy in the vehicle at the same time, and allow each to act independently when leaving the vehicle. How cool would it be to have the vehicle roll up and the Sisters inside dismount and charge two different units at the same time.

GW or Forgeworld could provide all this with a simple upgrade kit for the Land Raider Crusader/Redeemer kit.

Another fun rule, since the fuel tanks are mounted on the sides and rear of the vehicle if the model is 'exploded' with a penetrating hit from the side or rear you place the large blast template against the side of the fuel tank and any models under it take a hit with strength and ap equal to the flamers profile.

Place the Heavy Flamers on the front sponsons and the side fuel tanks on the rear sponsons. The model gains transport capacity but looses the side exits of the vehicle.

Why twin-linked heavy flamers when the Redeemer has a supercharged flamer as its sponson weapon, which torches Marines like marshmallows?

But yes, I like the idea of such an armored assault vehicle, though Sisters aren't exactly a melee-heavy army, apart from Repentia, Battle Conclaves, and Penitent Engines. And some of the HQ choices.

But there's no need to let it carry 2 separate squads. A single Sororitas squad can have up to 20 Battle Sisters in it. ^^ Though I am rather intrigued by the idea of rolling up a Land Raider, unloading two big squads of Dominions with four flamers each, and roasting a veritable FETHLOAD of heretics.

**amanita**

I like the cathedral/chapel tank combo but I think it should be a rolling crematorium about the size and armor of a land raider. Instead of an assault ramp, when it tank shocks it scoops up heretics into its furnace within! Bristle it with short range nastiness and holy icons and its good to go!

A valkyrie variant with meltaguns and flamers would suffice for a flier, though a dedicated gunship would be nice. No lascannons though, those are for the ones who lack faith.

**Spetulhu**

Pouncey wrote:
The actual Living Saint model is more normally human-sized. Comes on a 40mm base and is probably approaching the height of a dreadnought, but it's because her feet are well off the ground, and she comes with a massive backdrop held up by cherubs.

Edit: At least I THINK she comes on a 40mm base. Maybe I just built mine on a 40mm base for stability.

My blister had a 40mm base and a normal slottabase that the saint could be settled in. I glued the normal base onto the 40mm base, then attached the saint.

And mine is admittedly a gorgeous model, converted to have angel wings instead of the strange drapery. Then an old mate saw in basecoated and asked if he could paint it. His twenty-year old Dark Angels are still better painted than anything the rest of us have produced since. OK, she looks a bit like 80s Madonna but that's not necessarily a bad thing. ;-)

**Pouncey**

Spetulhu wrote:
Pouncey wrote:
The actual Living Saint model is more normally human-sized. Comes on a 40mm base and is probably approaching the height of a dreadnought, but it's because her feet are well off the ground, and she comes with a massive backdrop held up by cherubs.

Edit: At least I THINK she comes on a 40mm base. Maybe I just built mine on a 40mm base for stability.

My blister had a 40mm base and a normal slottabase that the saint could be settled in. I glued the normal base onto the 40mm base, then attached the saint.

And mine is admittedly a gorgeous model, converted to have angel wings instead of the strange drapery. Then an old mate saw in basecoated and asked if he could paint it. His twenty-year old Dark Angels are still better painted than anything the rest of us have produced since. OK, she looks a bit like 80s Madonna but that's not necessarily a bad thing. ;-)

Nice!

At first, I used mine with the drapery, but eventually, I got a Sanguinary Guard kit for conversions and kitbashing, and took the drapery - and iron spiked halo thing - off her back, and stuck on one of the Sanguinary Guard's backpacks.

She looks like this:

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8471570/

She's also a LOT less top-heavy now. : D

amanita wrote:
I like the cathedral/chapel tank combo but I think it should be a rolling crematorium about the size and armor of a land raider. Instead of an assault ramp, when it tank shocks it scoops up heretics into its furnace within! Bristle it with short range nastiness and holy icons and its good to go!

A valkyrie variant with meltaguns and flamers would suffice for a flier, though a dedicated gunship would be nice. No lascannons though, those are for the ones who lack faith.

This would also be acceptable. But my favorite so far is the bone-crushing- I mean, the Sororitas Land Raider thing with tons of torchiness.

**BoomWolf**

If we delve into regular tanks discussion, sisters should get baal preds. It fits them more then the BA.

As for epic kit, why not a unique fortification?
A massive church with an absurd number of guns all around?

**Troike**

Just remembered this and thought it'd be informative. For those who think that the SoB need to requisition stuff, take note of the Repressor.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Avignor_Uprising#.Uas7MPx5mc0

In a nutshell: they found a vehicle they liked and incorporated it into their organisation. Fluff-wise, there's no reason they just have to just borrow things. Go nuts.

amanita wrote:
I like the cathedral/chapel tank combo but I think it should be a rolling crematorium about the size and armor of a land raider. Instead of an assault ramp, when it tank shocks it scoops up heretics into its furnace within! Bristle it with short range nastiness and holy icons and its good to go!

A valkyrie variant with meltaguns and flamers would suffice for a flier, though a dedicated gunship would be nice. No lascannons though, those are for the ones who lack faith.

An aircraft that can drop firebombs might be fun. Would have a good use as a quick-responder against hordes too.

**1hadhq**

Am curious, how far are you people willing to move the SoB into somebody elses home-turf

Because I don't think they should get to close to SM or IG.

Now, fortifications aren't a specialty of the religious part of a civilization.
Sure they defend any place deemed holy tooth and nail, but usually those places are meant to be open to the believers, the pilgrims, the common people. Not bastions of the IoM in a military sense.

I got a fortress of Redemption. Have you seen those in play?
Because all I remember is everybody and his dog going for an ADL.....

The SoB have exactly 1 entry at the GW-site as "bitz" : a shrine, made of metal. 2 pieces...

Maybe a better choice is to provide a building, a shrine made of CoD parts. They can fight there. Its a big as you make it.

So IMHO a Mission objective or as a strategic position granted in their dex, yes give them whatever " fortress of faith" they deserve.

Let me add this:

Spoiler:

**conker249**

After viewing the "leaked" picture of July's white dwarf Apoc sized war machines , Im going to assume their next step will be a mobile baneblade chassis carrying a huge statue of the emperor. Example being https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYURxfaTdpY

**andrewm9**

conker249 wrote:
After viewing the "leaked" picture of July's white dwarf Apoc sized war machines , Im going to assume their next step will be a mobile baneblade chassis carrying a huge statue of the emperor. Example being https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYURxfaTdpY

Sisters won't be getting anything for the Apocalypse release because GW doesn't support them in supplements. They haven't so far so why start now.

**conker249**

andrewm9 wrote:
conker249 wrote:
After viewing the "leaked" picture of July's white dwarf Apoc sized war machines , Im going to assume their next step will be a mobile baneblade chassis carrying a huge statue of the emperor. Example being https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYURxfaTdpY

Sisters won't be getting anything for the Apocalypse release because GW doesn't support them in supplements. They haven't so far so why start now.

We are in a sisters thread asking about epic units, so why not speculate and have fun?

**jmswargaming**

andrewm9 wrote:
conker249 wrote:
After viewing the "leaked" picture of July's white dwarf Apoc sized war machines , Im going to assume their next step will be a mobile baneblade chassis carrying a huge statue of the emperor. Example being https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYURxfaTdpY

Sisters won't be getting anything for the Apocalypse release because GW doesn't support them in supplements. They haven't so far so why start now.

Actually, they'll probably just get reprints of the white dwarf formations that released after the codex update.

**Pouncey**

conker249 wrote:
After viewing the "leaked" picture of July's white dwarf Apoc sized war machines , Im going to assume their next step will be a mobile baneblade chassis carrying a huge statue of the emperor. Example being https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYURxfaTdpY

That thing was so tall that the workers needed space suits and Bender got knocked back when he whipped one of them! : D

Hmm... Tall enough that a space suit would be needed... How many miles is that?

We're probably looking at something at LEAST tall enough that you'd need to play outside or at least in a large warehouse. And you'd need to move it with a small crane or something.

**Melissia**

I would guess at a baneblade turned in to a rolling cathedral.

**Pouncey**

Melissia wrote:
I would guess at a baneblade turned in to a rolling cathedral.

The Sisters do need a place to pray in between slaughterfests when they're out... Is there even a point trying to justify these things with lore?

Also, my friend says the following reminds him of WH40k.

http://brutallegend.wikia.com/wiki/Organist

Our version shoots rockets out of its organ. What if there was a dual kit where one made the rocket tank and the other just blasted music out of its pipe organ which inspires the Sororitas to greater deeds (maybe all Sisters units within 12 or 18" re-roll failed Act of Faith rolls), or maybe puts the fear of the Emperor into their foes (maybe on a successful roll of some sort, target enemy unit within like 18-24" takes a morale test with a penalty, or has some sort of reduced Ballistic Skill or Initiative for a turn, or has to make a successful roll to fire overwatch that turn or something).

**Melissia**

Pouncey wrote:
Melissia wrote:
I would guess at a baneblade turned in to a rolling cathedral.

The Sisters do need a place to pray in between slaughterfests when they're out... Is there even a point trying to justify these things with lore?

Only if your goal is to add flavor and thus make it more awesome.

But of course, this being 40k, the cathedral needs massive guns.

**Pouncey**

Melissia wrote:
Pouncey wrote:
Melissia wrote:
I would guess at a baneblade turned in to a rolling cathedral.

The Sisters do need a place to pray in between slaughterfests when they're out... Is there even a point trying to justify these things with lore?
Only if your goal is to add flavor and thus make it more awesome.

But of course, this being 40k, the cathedral needs massive guns.

Yes, but we're talking about GW.

Wait, am I mixing WoW player complaints about Blizzard trampling on lore with WH40k player complaints about GW trampling on lore?

**Melissia**

GW makes lore to sell models, you know that.

**Pouncey**

Melissia wrote:
GW makes lore to sell models, you know that.

Yes. Yes, of course.

That's kinda what I was thinking. Is there a point trying to justify it with current lore, when GW will just make up whatever?

**Melissia**

I think GW prefers to think that it does just that.

Even though their perception of the lore is rarely waht the fans think of it.