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Looted wagon represents light vehicles like rhinos, a battlewagon can represent a looted leman Russ or land raider well enough, a battlefortress can represent a looted BEHNBLADE (and in fact the skullhammer in apocalypse is represented with a picture of a looted BEHNBLADE).

 Kain wrote:
Looted wagon represents light vehicles like rhinos, a battlewagon can represent a looted leman Russ or land raider well enough, a battlefortress can represent a looted BEHNBLADE (and in fact the skullhammer in apocalypse is represented with a picture of a looted BEHNBLADE).

A Russ is way smaller than a BW. A LR is approximately the same size.

The codex shows a looted russ as the example for a looted wagon.


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 Peregrine wrote:

 Dakkamite wrote:
Just pointing out, it isn't illegal RAW, it's illegal according to your CAW.

Please show me in the rulebook where you are permitted to use conversions or scratchbuilt models at all.

 Ascalam wrote:
Out of curiosity, do you have a link to the looted rhino on FW?

It seems to be OOP, along with a few other older Ork models. That's happened to a lot of stuff recently, I guess the looted vehicles didn't sell well enough to keep them in production.

There was the looted Rhino:



And I think this was also an official model, and about the same size as a Rhino:

The second image is a Gunwagon from IA 2 if i recall right. Different unit, but definitely something i'd consider to be fine for a Boomgun wagon. **edit - they are in IA 8 as well **

The weapon kit for a BW can fit a LRBT pretty well, I have mine drawing a literal armored wagon behind them. Most people groan when they figure out the pun.

Fair enough

Kill cannon replacing the battle cannon, four TL big shootas, three of them in the sponsons and hull, and one up top for the Pinter mount, coaxial kannon, deffrolla up front, Grabbin klaw,, Stikkbomm chukkaz wrecking' ball, and plank in the closed wagon dragged behind it for the boys. The small fleet of them I have is a testament to how much free time I have to waste.

BW don't get twin-linked big shootas, more's the pity.

Other than that, sounds good to me

Oh they don't? Should be easy to remove them.

And they're red of course.

Red with Tyranid blood (the story for them is that they've joined the Octarius war, which at this point in my metacampaign has already raged for over a century of ceaseless, mindless violence.)

Battlewagon would certainly make a more impressive Leman Russ than a Looted Wagon. Don't feel that that precludes me from running my Looted Wagon on a Leman Russ chassis though.

 Kain wrote:
Oh they don't? Should be easy to remove them.

And they're red of course.

Red with Tyranid blood (the story for them is that they've joined the Octarius war, which at this point in my metacampaign has already raged for over a century of ceaseless, mindless violence.)

Or just treat them as particularly beefy-looking Big Shootas

Mine are in several shades of glorious technicolor, as i'm collecting a multi-klan force for Golgotha's little scrap

My boyz are pretty flash from all the gubbinz they bought with Tyranid teef, using bits of Tyranids to make armor and choppaz is also frequent among my orks.

Got pics? I would love to see a choppa made out of Tyranid claws, or 'eavy armour made out of the bony plates of a hive tyrant

 Dakkamite wrote:
Got pics? I would love to see a choppa made out of Tyranid claws, or 'eavy armour made out of the bony plates of a hive tyrant

I don't have a camera, but I did take some Carnifex bits (when you could get them cheaply immediately after the cruddace nerf caused people to sell them en masse), I took a knife to the now invalidated armored shell, bits,cut my fingers repeatedly because sharp blades, twitchy hands and easily glanced off surfaces do not mix(some of the bits are red with MY blood) , and then used them for pauldrons, in keeping with 40k condition, the warboss has the biggest pauldrons.

For choppas, I took hormagaunt arms for boyz, the boss pole nobz swing around a bonesword, and the boss grafted a crushing claw on him (counts as power klaw). I tried using adamantium tusks but my wife looked at the bandaids on my fingers and said no. :(

 zephoid wrote:


Looted golden throne. Because they can.

Ok, I was reading this thread and when I scrolled down and saw this image I literally laughed myself into tears given the context of what was going on above.

Edit:

Figured I might as well add something to the thread. I know that some clubs and FLGS are different but when I was in Winston NC's GW store last summer we had an ork player with a scratchbuilt Battlewagon that looked like he made it from wal-mart/dollar-tree toy parts and he was cleared to use it by the management. Not that this covers 'all' or 'any' of GW's rulings on this it does go to show that players get away with a lot worse than what is being portrayed in this thread.

I think most people would prefer to play against legit models/conversions (even if it is a looted wagon Land Raider), not dollar-store toy cars with some plasticard glued on the side.

If someone shelled out the money for landraider or monolith to turn it into a looted wagon, then he is full within his right to field it and use it as mobile cover. It's not like an AV11 vehicle won't die to an autocannon looking funny at it, and orks can get 5+ cover for everyone on a model much harder to kill anyways.

If anything, using a looted wagon without a boomgun at all is placing a huge handicap on yourself. Even if you take a fortress of redemption and glue trakks and wheels to it, the small amount of LoS blocking will never justify basically tossing a HS slot and those points away.

Man, that made me lol heartily. Especially the idea of some Space Marine missile laucher exploding the FoR right off of the board

Though that would leave several square miles of area terrain. HMMMM

In the new book the orks should get looted monstrous creature rules to finally canonize the long running "looted carnifex" joke.

Just run it as a Big Squiggoth man.

A tough as nails transport for 10 boys, costing 50 points. Its super gak in assaults against anything but undefended vehicles (which it will *crush*) though

To be honest if someone wants to use a landraider for a Looted wagon to gain tactical advantage to screen his army then that does not make him TFG. A looted Wagon is what? Armor 11-11-10? Woop de do now your opponent has given you a much bigger target to hit, in the case of the Looted Wagon it really does not matter how big it is as it is quite easy to destroy. The size in this case is irrelevant in all cases besides providing cover, dont understand the issue here or how it is a problem

 Dakkamite wrote:
Just run it as a Big Squiggoth man.

A tough as nails transport for 10 boys, costing 50 points. Its super gak in assaults against anything but undefended vehicles (which it will *crush*) though

I have a possibility for you, looted C'Tan. The old ones Have been avenged at last.

Would that... even be possible?

Looted Necrons are on my to-do list after all... maybe have a weirdboy (or several) channelling a C'Tan? You'd have like, this enormous ghostly fist reaching down and squeezing it and making it do da Orks bidding... or of course, just make it an avatar of Gork (or was it Mork?)

It would be great in a scrap, and even better it would make for a fantastic campaign piece.

Rule of cool. It's a game. A looted landraider has the advantage of giving more cover, but the disadvantage of being harder to hide, and a bigger target.

If it's a vehicle from another army, and it's looted orky-style, and it's not an apocalypse model, then I say go for it. Anything from looted landspeeder with a comically oversized gun and wheels stuck on it, to a looted monolith with an amusingly small boomgun for it's size.

A looted Monolith is on my to-do list as part of my Looted 'crons. Good to hear that most people won't have a problem with it. This time, its not modelled large specifically for extra LoS blocking, but sure as hell I will take advantage of that!

 Dakkamite wrote:
A looted Monolith is on my to-do list as part of my Looted 'crons. Good to hear that most people won't have a problem with it. This time, its not modelled large specifically for extra LoS blocking, but sure as hell I will take advantage of that!

Ill just be waiting for that one don't press dat roll, where your monolith tankshocks you

It'll be worth it when my FoR tank shocks the entire enermy army in one go =D

... and then hilariously explodes to a guardsman throwing a krak grenade in a "Death or Glory!"-attempt

time to make a looted manta

You could just pay your opponent a hundred bucks to surrender. Would save you the hassle of actually bringing any minis to the store, and will net about fifteen game wins, more than the LoS blocking by the looted manta would.

The only reason to field a manta is to allow a second pair of players to play a 1500 point game on top of it

When I roll out my boomwagons, I have 1xLooted Basilisk, 1xLootedDemolisher Russ, 1xLooted Rhino w/Battlecannon mounted on top, and I have a Sisters of battle Rhino just for kicks as well. Chassis is not supposed to be a certain type, because orks loot anything. Even a looted TAU or Eldar skimmer looks cool if its done right. Though, it would make sense to use that AV 11 look like it is AV 11. My Demolisher tank has loads of battledamage and looks like a rusty hunk of bolts with a engine and a big gun on top of it... AV 11 for sure! I would not mind seeing a Monolith as a stand in for Battlewagons (remember those days we did not have any models for it?) but for a AV11 vehicle? probably not. I have 3 battlewagons modeled out from LR chassis + an upsized Demolisher Russ with extra tracks and such for a Killkannon wagon. LR has a wider front than the actual BW model, but I'm not going to buy 4 new ones just because GW were slow at giving us the damn model. Old models anyone? http://www.sodemons.com/gwmuseum/orkbattlewagon.jpg

Anyways, every person I play say it is fine and they love my conversions. Hope I never play against people so sad that they whine about my 1 inch wider wagons. Where did the "fun" go when playing? I also aim it towards those basterds that actually use monoliths for AV11 vehicles. Remember the work FUN?

Old Trukks vs the new ones is totally fine with me. Hell, I won't buy 4 new battlewagons, then I surely won't blame those guys who won't buy 7-8 trukks. That beeing said, I like the new trukks better, so ofc I have them. Old trukks works fine as buggies! My battlewagons and looted wagons stay just as they are even if they have different sizes and different mounted guns. They are looted, wonky and works half the time, as orky as it can get!

So you complain about people whining about conversions, while whining about conversions?

A leman russ has front armor 14 as well by the way. Guess what's seen in the picture right next to the codex entry of looted wagons?

I say loot any non apoc model you want, as long as its done good and orky.


EDIT: also that micron quip was hilarious.