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2013/05/31 08:54:07
Subject: Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
Not wanting to relegate racism to just angry Asians, along comes this.
Doctor Who decried as being "thunderously racist" by critics who set out to call it that
After already enduring criticisms that the show has become a hedonistic bacchanal of snogging, Doctor Who is now under fire for being “thunderously racist”—a type of racism far worse than the scattered showers of drizzling racism that may occasionally be a nuisance, but shouldn’t affect your weekend plans. This argument forms the basis of a new book titled Doctor Who And Race, which collects essays from various academics who were shocked to find numerous examples of racism in the show when they went looking for them specifically.
Among the charges excerpted by Radio Times: “the failure to cast a black or Asian Doctor;” a 2011 episode that offered an “inappropriately slapstick take on Hitler;” the tendency of the show in the 1970s to refer to primitive people as “savages” and cast white actors in ethnic roles; and even the fact that Peter Davison’s fifth Doctor in the early 1980s harbored an obsession with the sport of cricket, which American writer Amit Gupta says “harks back to the ‘racial and class nostalgia’ of the British Empire.” Strangely, even while making such compelling arguments, based on decisions made 40 years ago and the implied racist subtext of a sport, somehow unaddressed is Britain’s racist and classist history of not allowing Daleks in Parliament. And, of course, there's David Tennant’s familiar catchphrase, “Wibbly-wobbly, racial purity.”
For its part, the BBC has already defended the show, arguing that it has a “strong track record of diverse casting among both regular and guest cast,” and specifically pointing to Freema Agyeman playing the Doctor’s first black companion and Noel Clarke’s recurring role as Mickey Smith. Such arguments seem likely to prove unpersuasive, however, seeing as they already wrote this book and everything.
If they could somehow work in legos this would really be hitting on the OT zeitgeist this week.
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3800/05/31 09:36:13
Subject: Re:Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
This argument forms the basis of a new book titled Doctor Who And Race, which collects essays from various academics who were shocked to find numerous examples of racism in the show when they went looking for them specifically.
If you go looking for things specifically then chances are you will find them, even if you have to perform all sorts of mental gymnastics to do so.
Among the charges excerpted by Radio Times: “the failure to cast a black or Asian Doctor;”
This is no different to those people who moan that there has never been a black James Bond. It's long established that the character is always an eccentric white guy. That’s just the way it is.
“inappropriately slapstick take on Hitler”
No such thing. Slapstick jokes about Hitler where being made even as the war was going on. By this logic The Producers is a racist film/play.
and even the fact that Peter Davison’s fifth Doctor in the early 1980s harbored an obsession with the sport of cricket, which American writer Amit Gupta says “harks back to the ‘racial and class nostalgia’ of the British Empire.
Now this is just nonsense. The Empire ended quite some time ago and yet Pakistan and India still love their Cricket. That must be such a great source of frustration to Amit Gupta.
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2013/05/31 12:21:26
Subject: Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
This argument forms the basis of a new book titled Doctor Who And Race, which collects essays from various academics who were shocked to find numerous examples of racism in the show when they went looking for them specifically.
If you go looking for things specifically then chances are you will find them, even if you have to perform all sorts of mental gymnastics to do so.
Pretty much summed up my feelings right there.
2013/05/31 13:17:19
Subject: Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
Ahtman wrote: Not wanting to relegate racism to just angry Asians, along comes this.
Doctor Who decried as being "thunderously racist" by critics who set out to call it that
2011 episode that offered an “inappropriately slapstick take on Hitler;”
Hitler portrayed in a comical light eh, I'm sure the Jewish community was outraged about this.
...Also, Freema Agyeman is smoking hot and they utterly wasted her potential in Dr Who as a companion, instead portraying her as the rebound girlfriend, which I blame firmly on the terrible writing of Russell T Davis. Why they replaced her loveliness with that 'orrible shouty woman was beyond me.
2013/05/31 14:05:11
Subject: Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
You know since Dr. Who is timelord, doesn't that mean he's like the most racist racist of all? I mean he's racist throughout all time and space.
I saw an early Dr. Who were they landed with the Aztecs. In addition to being really really bad it was kind of borderline, but again that was drowned out by how utterly bad it was.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2013/05/31 14:10:36
Subject: Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
Honestly, we all have to remember that they've also never cast a ginger as the doctor. The past few transformations (from 9 to 10 and 10 to 11) I believe he always made a comment about still not being a ginger.
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2013/05/31 14:40:45
Subject: Re:Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
Alfndrate wrote: Honestly, we all have to remember that they've also never cast a ginger as the doctor. The past few transformations (from 9 to 10 and 10 to 11) I believe he always made a comment about still not being a ginger.
Yup!
Also I do not believe that he has ever been in a wheelchair (is the Tardis even wheelchair accessible?), been a midget, blind, mute, deaf, crippled, gay. Hispanic, Inuit, Native American or Indian. Clearly he is a cad of immeasurable proportion
2013/05/31 14:52:26
Subject: Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
Sexist too. I don't think there's been a female Dr.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/05/31 14:53:37
Subject: Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
Dreadclaw69 wrote: I heard that the Doctor made the Hitler teapot, which he then used to make tea for Hitler.
I heard he went back in time and introduced Hitler's mom to his dad, while serving them tea from a Hitler teapot.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/05/31 15:24:25
Subject: Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
Dreadclaw69 wrote: I heard that the Doctor made the Hitler teapot, which he then used to make tea for Hitler.
I heard he went back in time and introduced Hitler's mom to his dad, while serving them tea from a Hitler teapot.
I heard he went back in time and introduced Hitler's mom to his dad (after he impregnated her), while serving them tea from a Hitler teapot.
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2013/05/31 15:26:32
Subject: Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
Dreadclaw69 wrote: I heard that the Doctor made the Hitler teapot, which he then used to make tea for Hitler.
I heard he went back in time and introduced Hitler's mom to his dad, while serving them tea from a Hitler teapot.
I heard he went back in time and introduced Hitler's mom to his dad (after he impregnated her), while serving them tea from a Hitler teapot.
But did he do in a space corridor, or an industrial tower?
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2013/05/31 16:00:25
Subject: Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
Easy E wrote: Wait, Racism is just a thing At-the-Moment?
Yeah, I used to be Racist before it was cool. Now it's just too mainstream. I'm into some pretty obscure other predjudices now though.
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2013/05/31 16:36:02
Subject: Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
Easy E wrote: Wait, Racism is just a thing At-the-Moment?
Yeah, I used to be Racist before it was cool. Now it's just too mainstream. I'm into some pretty obscure other predjudices now though.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2013/05/31 16:36:58
Subject: Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
Thank you folks! I'll be here all week. Try the veal and tip your mod!
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2013/05/31 17:34:35
Subject: Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
I'm confused. Not only am I American, but I loved playing Cricket the few times I had the chance!
And yet, I find Freema Agyeman to be tied with the girl who played Amy Pond for being the hottest modern Dr. Who companion.
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2013/05/31 20:48:16
Subject: Re:Since Racism is a thing atm, here is Doctor Who: Super Racist
life. 
