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 keltikhoa wrote:

As appealing as One Shot Blondie is.... that silhouette for Mortaria Noctis Hitwoman is extremely enticing to me

Kiki will be interesting for me, because the "hulking brute" archetype is hardly ever female.

Denkstrum wrote:
Here is a picture I took earlier for scale purposes. Two things to note: the RH figure isn't mounted flush to the base, so it's a little higher than it should be, and secondly, RH said troops will be slightly shorter than the hero figures.

Spoiler:

The thing that's wrong with your picture is that the cutting mat with the ruler drawn on it is against the base of the left-most figure and almost half an inch away from the base of the right-most figure. It's also slightly tilted. This distorts what the camera sees and really makes it a bad way to compare models.

To do this right, you need each and every model on the same base (as you have done), all flush against the cutting mat (which is not done), with the cutting mat being as close to vertical as possible and the camera being about eye-level on the Space Marine models.

We are past $300k now. First freebie unlocked:

This is great news!

I can't wait for the next update!

And I really can't wait for the first actual model picture and scale shot - that will really kick this one up a notch or two!

 Alpharius wrote:
This is great news!

I can't wait for the next update!

And I really can't wait for the first actual model picture and scale shot - that will really kick this one up a notch or two!

Loud'n Raging wrote: 2 minutes ago

Weeeee!!! "Ash" is now unlocked!
$300,000 in 50 hours! You guys are simply awesome!
(Next update coming up, being written as we speak)

So, based on yesterday a few hours yet before they update anything

 Alpharius wrote:
I can't wait for the next update!

And I really can't wait for the first actual model picture and scale shot - that will really kick this one up a notch or two!

Indeed, right about now would be the perfect time for an update.

Edit: what's going on, ninja'd by Raging Heroes? NO!

I happened to be looking at the comments section when they popped that in, so thought I'd share it to keep things ticking over.

Aye, next update should be interesting, hopefully more SG unlocks and maybe another freebie might be good.

Its still ticking over very nicely though.

Yeah, looking forwards to the next update. Hoping for another freebie SG as well, hopefully slightly more than half a tank commander .

What I can see happening is unlocks running at 10k/20k intervals and then free stuff at 50k intervals, so next would be 350k.

Unlikely, given what we've seen so far, but no harm in thinking about possibilities.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Aye, next update should be interesting, hopefully more SG unlocks and maybe another freebie might be good.

Its still ticking over very nicely though.

It probably a good time for an update, hopefully with something exciting, maybe a longer 'unlock road map'?

Something to show that it will not in fact take $1M to unlock everything?

That way, anyone on the fence because they want to collect everything from a particular force can rest assured it will happen?

 Krinsath wrote:
Out of curiosity, does GW's practice of marketing 32mm models as 28mm bother you as well?

GW doesn't market their miniatures as 28mm. They haven't done so for years.

 Alpharius wrote:
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It probably a good time for an update, hopefully with something exciting, maybe a longer 'unlock road map'?

Something to show that it will not in fact take $1M to unlock everything?

That way, anyone on the fence because they want to collect everything from a particular force can rest assured it will happen?

Yeah that's what I'd like to see, hell I'd still like to see it all unlocked, and RH having to consider stretch goals off the bat that although they'd need to be larger stretches, could spur a frenzy of pledges.

They won't massively road map it (and we don't want them to) but I could see them putting up 3-4 more models and hopefully a freebie stretch. The reason we don't want a long road map is once it's out it's hard to adjust for the campaign slowing resulting in a higher chance of not hitting the things they've mapped out.

Inquisitor Wappellious wrote:
Since the new troop boxes are resin, and in units of 5 each (unique poses, etc), I have been posting the Vestals, since they are manufactured in that exact method.

I would figure that the new boxes of 5 troops will be done in the same way...

No.
Not at all.

The resin models cost slightly more than the metal ones on their site, so it's clearly going to be a very different process. The troops are going to be spin-cast plastic - "restic style" (ie Mantic's models), and we don't know how well they will turn out. I hope they've done some test runs.

Indeed, there needs to be a line between too many SGs to unlock and too few. I think with the pace of updates at the moment a few more would be better, get people interested in what's coming up. Where as if they were updating more frequently they could get away with only a couple as the updates themselves would likely keep things ticking over at a slightly faster rate.

For future reference, funding is presently at $301,869 with 1,296 bakers. Oh, and they're still putting together that update.

 Jimsolo wrote:
You make a good point Crimson. It's very fair to want your models to scale well with each other. I am one of the many who plan to use them in my IG army, so that is indeed a concern. The pictures do a lot to assuage that fear, however. The scale shots, which seem to universally use the Kurganova sisters, do indeed show them slightly taller than regular guardsman. However, all of the Kurganova sisters are wearing peaked 'not-a-commissar' hats as well as very high heels, so it doesn't seem that bad. Especially looking at James' picture, it becomes more clear that from heel to crown the women they've already produced are easily in line with Games Workshop figs. I think it's all going to work out for us here.

The thing to remember with the Kurganova sisters is that their stance has their legs as far akimbo as will fit on a round 25mm base. If they actually stood a bit more normally or neutrally, they'd be another head taller.


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 Breotan wrote:

To do this right, you need each and every model on the same base (as you have done), all flush against the cutting mat (which is not done), with the cutting mat being as close to vertical as possible and the camera being about eye-level on the Space Marine models.

I'll take a scale picture later today and post it up.

Their preperation must have been IMPRESSIVE... I mean it takes them only several hours to come up with an upate ;(

Never though, I would ever say that: But thanks Azazelx for bringing a voice of reason to this thread

BTW I am not a Herald, just someone who decided 2 years ago, that I should bring Dakka's attention to this company and start and constantly update a news&rumour thread on them, because they deserve it (like many other smaller companies). Even if it was not my "duty" to do so.

I will try to post edited updates of the kickstarter campaign (if noone else does), so that some kindly spirited mod can add them to the first post for the benefit of all, while Raging Heroes is busy doing kickstarter work (as I expected and predicted in the other thread).

Does anyone have the pic with the 12k-200k unlocks still saved somewhere? It was deleted from the kickstarter page, but would be helpful for a full summary.

BTW, in one of the unnoticed updates, Raging Heroes assured us, that they have no doubts that all planned miniatures will be unlocked at the end of the kickstarter. It would just be stupid to spill everything in the first two days.

RoninXiC wrote:
Their preperation must have been IMPRESSIVE... I mean it takes them only several hours to come up with an upate ;(

They designed 150 individual and high quality miniatures, most of them with infinite pose options. They achieved what most miniature companies thought almost impossible: get through all the kickstarter requirements as a non-US-UK company. Yeah, not putting out an update in the 6 hours of sleep totally negates all those achievements

As many Dakka members are from North America: Keep in mind that Europe's office hours end when yours start. And that in Europe it is deep in the night when you come back from office to check your computer for updates.

An update is on it's way in a bit for folks, no idea of the content, but those who are eagerly waiting, shouldn't be long now.

Timer set...

 Vermillion wrote:
An update is on it's way in a bit for folks, no idea of the content, but those who are eagerly waiting, shouldn't be long now.

and...mark!

"Shouldn't be long" - Is that estimated by the "RH perception of time" or by us normal people? Because that would make a difference of hours.

What's the rush? Do people not have other things to do besides wait around their computers hitting F5 on a Kickstarter page? An update will arrive when it arrives.

~iPaint

Timely updates are important and will be more important if and when pace speeds up.

 -iPaint- wrote:
Do people not have other things to do besides wait around their computers hitting F5

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No, no most folks really don't. They have put money down on something and want to see updates when the goals are hit.

 -iPaint- wrote:
What's the rush? Do people not have other things to do besides wait around their computers hitting F5 on a Kickstarter page? An update will arrive when it arrives.

~iPaint

I bet you hit the F5 to read the replies to your reply.

No, but seriously, communication is quite important, as is customer satisfaction. Do good at both and you've got yourself a winner. RH isn't doing their best as of yet. I am sure that they'll catch up with the importance of it at one point or another. I just hope it isn't too late by then.

grefven wrote:

 -iPaint- wrote:
What's the rush? Do people not have other things to do besides wait around their computers hitting F5 on a Kickstarter page? An update will arrive when it arrives.

~iPaint

I bet you hit the F5 to read the replies to your reply.

I guess asking for an update on a project is a 'waste of time', but complaining on a miniature wargaming forum about people asking for updates - now there's something noble!

Also, we now know that 'Next update coming up, being written as we speak' in RH time equals something more than 4 hours!

And yeah, it is all in good fun everyone!

I just set my phones calendar for the day before this ends. I'll watch this thread because I get bored at work but otherwise I have no intention of logging onto the kickstarter moving forward. It's likely my money I put toward this is going to be redirected to Mantic's Deadzone stuff anyway.

 Hulksmash wrote:
I just set my phones calendar for the day before this ends. I'll watch this thread because I get bored at work but otherwise I have no intention of logging onto the kickstarter moving forward. It's likely my money I put toward this is going to be redirected to Mantic's Deadzone stuff anyway.

And that's saying something, given how 'on the fence' you were there AND the fact that Mantic excels at Kickstarter communications!

 Alpharius wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
I just set my phones calendar for the day before this ends. I'll watch this thread because I get bored at work but otherwise I have no intention of logging onto the kickstarter moving forward. It's likely my money I put toward this is going to be redirected to Mantic's Deadzone stuff anyway.

And that's saying something, given how 'on the fence' you were there AND the fact that Mantic excels at Kickstarter communications!

I guess it does. I didn't see it that way but I think the lack of communication on this combined with the uncomfortable feel of the way they handled the initial burst of funds means I have almost zero enthusiasm for this.

Mantic on the other hand did at least update regularly, mostly listened to feedback (the orx are better but not fixed but at least not a zero value anymore), and eventually provided an excellent price on an almost year out pre-order. Which this will easily be if not longer if they don't go plastic.

Sure, but we're still $8k away from the last stretch goal, and that should take a few more hours to hit, so in the meantime why the clamor for an update immediately? Trust me, I'm as anxious as the next person to see the updates, but saying that they aren't coming out fast enough when RH said in the comments that they're currently working on one and to be patient, seems a bit discourteous.

It's day 2 and it's already starting to seem like people (especially over in the KS comments section) are chomping at the bit for this KS to be over with everything completely unlocked.

Kickstarters require a bit of patience from the backer, and I don't think it's too much to ask that we give RH some slack and assume they're not going to keep us in the dark.

~iPaint

Edit: Looks like all we had to do was wait an hour....Like I said, a bit of patience is going to be needed with this KS, since it's a small group of people involved with over a thousand backers now, and they're learning as they go.