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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:20:46
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
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I definitely want to put around $40 into this kickstarter (Must. Resist. Urge. To. Go. Higher.), but I'd like to see some 3D renders of everything first.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:22:12
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Remember when talking about discounts you also have to factor in the free stuff you get with some pledge levels ( KS exclusives & extra heroines
Lieutenant: $15
Commander: $25
Captain: $35
Major: $45
Colonel: $75
General $105
if somebody wants to factor these numbers into the discounts above
Factor in what? Where's the "extra $105" coming from at General? The little box shows you exactly what you get.
So let's go to the $995 deal, you get; $200 + $390 +$390 +3 Free Troops ($25 each is the most expensive) + 3 Free Support ($35 is the most expensive) + Free Rocketeer ($18) = $1178 Retail. So 995/1178 = 84.4 which translates into a whole 15.6% off retail. Keep in mind, it only gets worse from there. If I don't pick 3 sets of Lulu's (whatever they turn out to be) or 3 Mechs for Support, my discount goes down.
As for "Freebies"... so far we have a few bits for minis you might not even buy/take/pick/purchase, the top half of a mini (which again might not even be of use unless you pick that faction), and a Digital Book (woo hoo).
Hell, I'll throw in the $105 just for giggles and that finally takes the discount up to 22.5%..... now we're getting a little closer. Of course that $105 gives me 5 more average troop boxes.
[Edit] Oh Snap, I went back and looked at the text of the Levels, because I thought I missed something. Turn out I did, the +3 Units of Troops and Support is capped at $45 each.... W T F
So it's actually... 200+390+390+45+45+18=1088 995/1088=.914 Which means at General you get an AMAZING 8.6% off Retail.
Which leads me to question how they can post the discounts are from 17% to 40%
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:30:35
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
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Updated posted on the KS More Freebies, more Stretch Goals, and load of other good news!
Looks like some interesting stuff that addresses concerns raised thus far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:30:51
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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update is up
More Freebies, more Stretch Goals, and load of other good news!
Update #8 · Jun 9, 2013 · comment
Hi guys!
We have many super good news for you today!!!
First, please know how excitedly happy we are for your support, and for the enthusiasm you have for the Toughest Girls of the Galaxy. We have lovingly designed each one, thinking long and hard about their character, drawing from hundreds of references both in real life and from the masters, agonizing over the position of an arm, the angle of a head, the shape of clothes, ...
To see this had work pay off here is overwhelming.
Unlocking the minis faster
We've read and listened to you carefully these past 3 days.
And we got that many of you are worried that the miniatures that you want might not be unlocked by the end of the Kickstarter...
Well, we can't have that!
So, going forward, you can expect that there will be a new miniature unlocked as a Stretch Goal pretty much every $10,000.
And so, to follow this new pattern, we have added a new Stretch Goal at $340,000: the Iron Empire Heavy Troopers Box.
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More, improved freebies
But of course, that's not all. We also spent the last 3 days crunching numbers, talking to our partners, suppliers and freelancers, so that we could upgrade the campaign to what it has now become.
The result of this?
Well, you will be seeing Freebies, as well as Free Upgrades for already unlocked miniatures, much more frequently!
For the $335,000 mark, we will unlock one Tank Crew for the Kurganova Shock Troops.
And we moved back the already-announced $350,000 Freebie to $345,000, where we will unlock the Tank Crew for the Iron Empire.
But wait, there's more :-)
By popular demand, these 2 characters, as well as Ash, the Jailbird tank gunner already released as a Freebie, will be complete miniatures, with legs.
This way, you will be able to use them either as Tank Crew characters, or as regular Heroines.
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Quick Summary and what's next
Ok, if you're a bit lost, here's a quick summary of what's coming for unlock at the moment:
$330,000: Tank Stopper Katrina Zerga – Now Unlocked!
$335,000: FREEBIE: Tank Crew for the Kurganova Shock Troops (complete)
$340,000: Iron Empire Heavy Troopers Box
$345,000: FREEBIE: Tank Crew for the Iron Empire (complete)
$350,000: Mad Nurse Bernadette
$355,000: UPGRADE PACK (details to be announced)
$360,000: Jailbirds' Mecha
$365,000: FREEBIE (details to be announced)
$370,000: A new miniature (details to be announced)
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WE'RE on BOINGBOING!
GUESS WHO MADE IT TO THE FRONT PAGE OF BOINGBOING.NET, posted by none other than CORY DOCTOROW??? WE DID!!!
From his post: “Raging Heroes is a spectacularly successful new Kickstarter to produce 150 female warrior miniatures divided into three armies. They were looking for $12,000 and hit that in 30 seconds. Now they're over $300K and still rising, with over 1,400 backers. The minis are very beautiful, and the studio, based in France, has a textbook-example, perfectly structured KS. But 30 seconds. Wow.'
Cory Doctorow is the co-editor of the boinboing blog, which is one of the most popular blog in the world!
So please don't hesitate to REPOST (here's the link: http://bit.ly/13q6tUI ) and to ADD YOUR COMMENT to his post!!! It could make a real difference...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:32:43
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Fresh-Faced Inquisitorial Acolyte
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New update is out I guess they are listening to community.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:35:12
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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TalonZahn from update 7 onward just add up all the $ your pledge has and spend them as you like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:39:05
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
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The announced changes to SG frequency and increased frequency of freebies is a good thing. Though the former, distance between regular SGs dropping, most people had pretty much taken to be the case after the announcement of the mecha SG. It is nice that they're sliding another one in at $340k though.
As for the freebies, extra models are always cool. Even more so now that the tank commanders are going to have legs as standard rather than having to use a pair from a box of troopers. More important now that you could end up without any troopers in your LT+ box if you just wanted heroines and mecha.
Time to sit back and see what this update does to pledging once more people read it.
For future reference we're at $332,355 pledged.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:42:09
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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PsychoticStorm wrote:TalonZahn from update 7 onward just add up all the $ your pledge has and spend them as you like.
That's what my first numbers were in the non-green unedited area. So 15.6% off retail.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:51:12
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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This new update looks like they've really been listening/reading the concerns on unlocks and added value.
I'm torn. I plan on using what I get as a small veteran style force. But eventually I do plan on owning every single damn mini they make. They are just to gorgeous.
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Dead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:51:12
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Twisting Tzeentch Horror
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From the comments on update #8
Loud'n Raging wrote:We are indeed planning to make the freebies also available for purchase within the Kickstarter, for those who want extras. We'll be taking care of that soon.
Could be good, depending on what other freebies are unlocked moving forwards, personally don't have a use for multiple tank commanders, but I'm sure there are those who do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:51:30
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Wow, huge update.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:56:02
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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[DCM]
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And lots of good news in the update too!
Boing Boing wrote:The minis are very beautiful, and the studio, based in France, has a textbook-example, perfectly structured KS.
It wasn't then, but it might be now!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 20:56:50
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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TalonZahn wrote: PsychoticStorm wrote:TalonZahn from update 7 onward just add up all the $ your pledge has and spend them as you like. That's what my first numbers were in the non-green unedited area. So 15.6% off retail. I did the calculation on discount on each product using the RRP and the price on the kickstarter graphics, so the discount is per item, if for example you used all your pledges money to buy just 10$ heroes the discount would add up to 40%, on the other hand an all heavy troops pledge would be 16% and a mix would vary. Automatically Appended Next Post: Alpharius wrote:And lots of good news in the update too!
Boing Boing wrote:The minis are very beautiful, and the studio, based in France, has a textbook-example, perfectly structured KS.
It wasn't then, but it might be now! 
Update 7&8 are maybe the most crucial updates of this kickstarter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:02:15
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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prankster wrote:From the comments on update #8
Loud'n Raging wrote:We are indeed planning to make the freebies also available for purchase within the Kickstarter, for those who want extras. We'll be taking care of that soon.
Could be good, depending on what other freebies are unlocked moving forwards, personally don't have a use for multiple tank commanders, but I'm sure there are those who do.
Yeh, I don't really have any need for a tank commander for each faction since it's only one faction that ill be collecting. It would be nice if that freebie was "your choice of tank commander". Oh well, they're still free. I'll find something to do with them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:03:16
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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TalonZahn wrote: OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:Remember when talking about discounts you also have to factor in the free stuff you get with some pledge levels ( KS exclusives & extra heroines
Lieutenant: $15
Commander: $25
Captain: $35
Major: $45
Colonel: $75
General $105
if somebody wants to factor these numbers into the discounts above
Factor in what? Where's the "extra $105" coming from at General? The little box shows you exactly what you get.
So let's go to the $995 deal, you get; $200 + $390 +$390 +3 Free Troops ($25 each is the most expensive) + 3 Free Support ($35 is the most expensive) + Free Rocketeer ($18) = $1178 Retail. So 995/1178 = 84.4 which translates into a whole 15.6% off retail. Keep in mind, it only gets worse from there. If I don't pick 3 sets of Lulu's (whatever they turn out to be) or 3 Mechs for Support, my discount goes down.
As for "Freebies"... so far we have a few bits for minis you might not even buy/take/pick/purchase, the top half of a mini (which again might not even be of use unless you pick that faction), and a Digital Book (woo hoo).
Hell, I'll throw in the $105 just for giggles and that finally takes the discount up to 22.5%..... now we're getting a little closer. Of course that $105 gives me 5 more average troop boxes.
[Edit] Oh Snap, I went back and looked at the text of the Levels, because I thought I missed something. Turn out I did, the +3 Units of Troops and Support is capped at $45 each.... W T F
So it's actually... 200+390+390+45+45+18=1088 995/1088=.914 Which means at General you get an AMAZING 8.6% off Retail.
Which leads me to question how they can post the discounts are from 17% to 40%
You're missing the point, general gets you 8.6% off the KS prices,
which are somewhere between 17 (the $10 heroines) to 40% (the $15 heroines) off the proposed eventual retail prices
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:12:15
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The tank commanders are FULL MODELS:
"Loud'n Raging less than a minute ago
For those who missed it: FREEBIES are now FULL MODELS! :-)"
"But wait, there's more :-)
By popular demand, these 2 characters, as well as Ash, the Jailbird tank gunner already released as a Freebie, will be complete miniatures, with legs.
This way, you will be able to use them either as Tank Crew characters, or as regular Heroines."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:16:54
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Mutating Changebringer
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A wonderful update.
Why, I feel as if I have caught a biscuit... (well, had someone catch a biscuit for me, it's catchier the other way).
With the SGs at a defined 10k, more freebies and more upgrades adding value, the threshold for complete unlock is only another $400k or so, meaning well before a million they will have essentially 3 full lines ready.
Really quite wonderful. This has the look of a roadmap to loverly iron soldiers...
$330,000: Tank Stopper Katrina Zerga – Now Unlocked!
$335,000: FREEBIE: Tank Crew for the Kurganova Shock Troops (complete)
$340,000: Iron Empire Heavy Troopers Box
$345,000: FREEBIE: Tank Crew for the Iron Empire (complete)
$350,000: Mad Nurse Bernadette
$355,000: UPGRADE PACK (details to be announced)
$360,000: Jailbirds' Mecha
$365,000: FREEBIE (details to be announced)
$370,000: A new miniature (details to be announced)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:23:19
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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It also looks like it's picking up a little more momentum - it's at 58 pledgers already today, when it was at 47 and 45 each for the last 2 days.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:25:15
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Ouze wrote:It also looks like it's picking up a little more momentum - it's at 58 pledgers already today, when it was at 47 and 45 each for the last 2 days.
The timing of this update (whether intentional or fortuitous) with the publicity from the BoingBoing article will be fine multiplier. Get new eyes on the project, and encourage old backers to stay or upgrade to levels that get freebies.
Very nice indeed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:27:37
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
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There may be hope yet after this update.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:28:51
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:You're missing the point, general gets you 8.6% off the KS prices,
which are somewhere between 17 (the $10 heroines) to 40% (the $15 heroines) off the proposed eventual retail prices
I had a long maths reply, then thought... I wonder if this cold and meds is messing with me for the last few days.
You are right, and I am not.
A $20 Retail Troop is $15, so already 25% off.
Heroines are easiest to figure, so I will adjust math there. $200 of KS price Heroines is 20 Heroines, $200 of Retail Heroines is 12.2 Heroines.
Troops would be something like what they posted, 26 boxes @ KS Price at $390 and 19.5 @ Retail price at $390.
How many have I led astray!??!
I will submit myself to the Pain Glove now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:32:53
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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What will be interesting is the path after that, at 730k there will be more SG needed and this is were fun usually starts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:41:33
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Seems, we will get all 150 miniatures during the kickstarter. Who would have thought?
Alpharius wrote:Boing Boing wrote:The minis are very beautiful, and the studio, based in France, has a textbook-example, perfectly structured KS.
It wasn't then, but it might be now! 
Tell Boing Boing that his opinion is not Alpharius-approved and therefore must be wrong
At least I am not the only irrational crackhead being wrong.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:41:41
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PsychoticStorm wrote:What will be interesting is the path after that, at 730k there will be more SG needed and this is were fun usually starts.
There have been intimations of additions beyond what has thus far been designed and shadowed, as it were.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:42:31
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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I think it still might take a while to get to $730K though.
Most people probably won't be adding to their initial pledges until a lot more stuff gets unlocked - especially the Mechs and bikes.
Still, glad to see they listened to constructive criticism - this is a great update, and will be an excellent shot in the arm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:42:52
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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Ouze wrote:It also looks like it's picking up a little more momentum - it's at 58 pledgers already today, when it was at 47 and 45 each for the last 2 days.
The backers boost was significant and game changing, it was hovering at 10 most of the day, I feel this is finally on the right track.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Alpharius wrote:I think it still might take a while to get to $730K though.
Most people probably won't be adding to their initial pledges until a lot more stuff gets unlocked - especially the Mechs and bikes.
Still, glad to see they listened to constructive criticism - this is a great update, and will be an excellent shot in the arm.
Its now a dual game bring in new people and make current backers wanting to spend more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:50:40
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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PsychoticStorm wrote:The backers boost was significant and game changing, it was hovering at 10 most of the day, I feel this is finally on the right track.
It was 25 new backers and 7,000$ 4 hours ago, before the update.
And the rest might have been caused by the prominent blog reference, not by a new stretch goal.
But if you all have the feeling, that everything is right now, I don't complain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 21:58:32
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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Everything is not "right" the frontpage needs a redesign and the upcoming freebies streachgoals will be crucial, but I would be a liar if I said at this moment I am not extremely pleased with the updates and direction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 22:00:45
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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TalonZahn wrote: OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:You're missing the point, general gets you 8.6% off the KS prices,
which are somewhere between 17 (the $10 heroines) to 40% (the $15 heroines) off the proposed eventual retail prices
I had a long maths reply, then thought... I wonder if this cold and meds is messing with me for the last few days.
You are right, and I am not.
A $20 Retail Troop is $15, so already 25% off.
Heroines are easiest to figure, so I will adjust math there. $200 of KS price Heroines is 20 Heroines, $200 of Retail Heroines is 12.2 Heroines.
Troops would be something like what they posted, 26 boxes @ KS Price at $390 and 19.5 @ Retail price at $390.
How many have I led astray!??!
I will submit myself to the Pain Glove now.
Nooooooooo  ,
It's certainly not the easiest KS setup to understand
I wonder how much of that is Raging Heroes, and how much is the late rewrite KS demanded of them (and I wonder if the positively horrible wording on the 'swapping' update has been used to they can pretend it's not gone back to the way they originally planned)
whatever their latest announcement (more free stuff) kind of makes the debate less relevant anyway
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/09 22:26:59
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] - Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter is live!
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Well I'm happy, the last few updates have pretty much knocked all my worries out of the park. I've had a bad experience with KS so far starting with wyrd's rpg as my first I was immensely disappointed with how they ran it, with a mass of effort to make it not so terrible in the last few days, by which point it was already too late and I'd withdrawn long ago. Then Gates of Antares was a massive flop, I've always regretted not getting on board with projects like reapers bones, at least now I might be in for a good one fingers crossed.
On a side note the tank commanders I won't use could be excellent presents for one of my groups at least, extra freebies is never a bad thing surely.
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