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**Azazelx**

Buzzsaw wrote:

I'll be brutally honest: our disagreement is such that I see no profit in continued discussion, certainly not in this thread.

I don't really see a disagreement in broad terms. We both like and appreciate the RH aesthetic. You're merely choosing to take issue with/offence to a term I used in a non-derogatory sense to describe them - for some reason of your own...

To clarify, in case I was somehow vague. I like cheescake. I like realistic. I can like both and distinguish between both, while still liking both. it's not a zero-sum game.

**Vhalan**

Melissia wrote:
Not every post in this thread has to be fawning and drooling over the kickstarter campaign.

Voicing dissent is not allowed Citizen. Please wait while the termination squad arrives.

I would like for RH to stick to one of their statements and produce 80% of the 150 stated minis (that would be 120 minis for those that don't have a calculator handy) for display before the end of the campaign. Continual math errors aside, Id like to see the product I'm pledged for as was originally promised.

**Jehan-reznor**

Melissia wrote:
Azazelx wrote:
In this case, I do have to ask why you're posting here
Simple. There was a range-- the Kurganovas-- of miniatures where it looked as if, from the concept art, it might be a good army to collect.

Then the miniatures came out and disappointed me. So I am expressing my disappointment.

Not every post in this thread has to be fawning and drooling over the kickstarter campaign.

What was your the issue, with them?
They are more slender than GW'S IG, my only gripe was that the gasmasks weren't seperate heads.

**Azazelx**

Melissia wrote:
Azazelx wrote:
In this case, I do have to ask why you're posting here
Simple. There was a range-- the Kurganovas-- of miniatures where it looked as if, from the concept art, it might be a good army to collect.
Then the miniatures came out and disappointed me. So I am expressing my disappointment.

Fair enough. It might be worth checking out the finished product in a year or so, since it seems the precise proportions are somewhat liquid at the moment.

Not every post in this thread has to be fawning and drooling over the kickstarter campaign.

yes. Because that's how we're all been posting to date.

**Melissia**

Jehan-reznor wrote:
What was your the issue, with them?

The biggest issue I have is that sculptor felt the need to give them giganto-boobs, whereas the concept art, while not ideal, was at least respectable and could simply be considered stylization in the same general style that Sister of Battle power armor is stylized (although IIRC one of the Canoness models is questionable in that regard, too....)

**Jimsolo**

Melissia wrote:
Azazelx wrote:
In this case, I do have to ask why you're posting here
Simple. There was a range-- the Kurganovas-- of miniatures where it looked as if, from the concept art, it might be a good army to collect.

Then the miniatures came out and disappointed me. So I am expressing my disappointment.

Not every post in this thread has to be fawning and drooling over the kickstarter campaign.

It's been pointed out a few times now that Raging Heroes agreed with you that the initial render was not up to snuff in comparison with the concept art. Specifically, they already said that they would be reducing the bust size, as well as doing additional work to them.

I don't disagree with assessments that the Jailbirds are pretty sexualized. (They are very sexualized.) But the Kurganovas aren't The render we've seen has a larger bust than many people want, including the sculptors, who have (again) said that this issue will be fixed before final production.

While I'm not averse to some provocative minis from time to time, I would also like an army of professional female soldiers, and I think the Kurganovas fit the bill pretty nicely. (With the exception of Ivanka, but the extreme degree of sexualization in the Kurganova sisters leads me to believe it's intended to be a character trait of theirs, since it isn't reflected in the army as a whole.)

In any event, if you can't find minis to enjoy here, I hope you find them somewhere.

**Barzam**

Rather than more renders (which would be nice), I think I'd like to see some concept art for the weaponry they've got planned for the troops.

**Melissia**

Especially if we can buy weapon bitz separate for use in conversions

**Janthkin**

To be clear: it's okay to like the minis. It's okay NOT to like the minis. It's okay to express both opinions, It's okay to explain WHY you like the minis.

But there is no need to repeat your opinion until everyone agrees with you. And there is no need to argue with someone about their opinion.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Herald mode: I'm going to see about more renders and prints, especially for the new KST Heavies. A lot of people clearly still have concerns about these minis and want to see what's coming.

Normal mode: I'm honestly right there with Melissa though I do like my cheesecake, I want my scifi female infantry to be bad ass, stylization's fine, but out right cheesecake for an entire army just isn't my bag. After the disappointing heavies I really want RH to "show me the money" so to speak. Especially before I give them /my/ money.

**RoninXiC**

Looks like the trooper and heavy trooper boxes are now upgraded to include
TEN MINIATURES
instead of five.

**Valhallan42nd**

RoninXiC wrote:
Looks like the trooper and heavy trooper boxes are now upgraded to include
TEN MINIATURES
instead of five.

I do not believe this to be true, but I see where you might have gotten that idea.

**KalashnikovMarine**

I don't think it's true either. I'd do a little freaking dance if it was but sadly not. The heavy weapons troopers in the command boxes do sound like priority targets for magnetization however, all those delicious weapons!

**Jimsolo**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I don't think it's true either. I'd do a little freaking dance if it was but sadly not. The heavy weapons troopers in the command boxes do sound like priority targets for magnetization however, all those delicious weapons!

I heard that!

Anyone but me super stoked for the Iron Empire freedom fighter?

**KalashnikovMarine**

Heh... maybe she's more of a Tyranny Conqueror? Freedom just doesn't sound like the IE's style.

**prankster**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Herald mode: I'm going to see about more renders and prints, especially for the new KST Heavies. A lot of people clearly still have concerns about these minis and want to see what's coming.

Hope you can get some response on this, particularly renders / prints of the heavy weapons. Would really like to see those before the end of the KS, so as to make the choice between more trooper boxes or handfuls of the artillery boxes for weapons teams.

**Jimsolo**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Heh... maybe she's more of a Tyranny Conqueror? Freedom just doesn't sound like the IE's style.

Since they also seem to be behind inter-faction conflict, maybe the IE freedom fighter is some kind of resurrectionist? Someone who returns the undead to life? Or maybe just to regular ol' death.

**PsychoticStorm**

Melissia wrote:
Azazelx wrote:
In this case, I do have to ask why you're posting here
Simple. There was a range-- the Kurganovas-- of miniatures where it looked as if, from the concept art, it might be a good army to collect.

Then the miniatures came out and disappointed me. So I am expressing my disappointment.

Not every post in this thread has to be fawning and drooling over the kickstarter campaign.

At least that answers me why you post here, your entire post history on this thread had me puzzled to be honest, While I agree that the renders was vastly disappointing and something the majority here and on the kickstarter share as an opinion for more reasons than just the breasts size, they have said they will fix them to look closer to the concept art.

I really do not get the cheesecake references though for the troops, for some heroes, ok, but the troops do not have any of the characteristics to deserve that label.

**BrookM**

**prankster**

See, I like that a lot more than the JB Mecha... which isn't a good thing for my wallet.

**PsychoticStorm**

So far I do not like any of their mechs, on the other hand the artillery and snipers revealed is really nice.

**BrookM**

Funny enough, it was supposed to be a pic of Kiki but they put up the wrong pic.

Coming up: a new pledge level for collectors and resin lovers... But you'll have to be fast, there's only going to be a limited quantity available... More in our next update...

Kiki Bulldozer

Genetic manipulations, nano technologies, combat drugs. All elements that play a big part in creating ultra-performing warriors, especially for nations like the Kurgans, who have very advanced scientific research abilities. And of course, where better to test this research than in human rat labs...

Kiki was locked up in a maximum security cell when the walls trembled under the shock of the advancing Jailbird's heavy weaponry. Something had gone horribly wrong in her research protocol and the Kurgans had not yet decided if it was better to terminate such a powerful creature, or to push it further to make her into an even more dangerous weapon.

When the Jailbirds removed her chains and nursed her back to health, her radical mood swings eased and she turned herself into a rather gentle giantess.

But she's fiercely devoted to the members of her new family. Threats or violence of any kind aimed at them will inevitably unleash all of Kiki's strength and ruthlessness, with devastating results.

**keltikhoa**

The IE mech is great IMO but... Cant help but think of tentacle h-vid...

**BrookM**

It would make for good alternate Penitent Engine maybe.

**Alpharius**

0 for 2 on Mechs for me, sadly.

The Kurganovas were my initial favorite faction though, so there's still some hope!

**RoninXiC**

So awesome

**prankster**

BrookM wrote:
Funny enough, it was supposed to be a pic of Kiki but they put up the wrong pic.

Based on what they said just as the update went up I'd say it was an intentional mistake:

Update up: Kiki Bulldozer now unlocked + a teaser - http://kck.st/19SKoWA

**H.B.M.C.**

Hmm... that was the mech I was most eager to see. Shame...

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

here's the mech pic they posted in error for those that missed it

**Valhallan42nd**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... that was the mech I was most eager to see. Shame...

Not a fan of the Necromecha?