Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!

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**Azazelx**

Kroothawk wrote:

Look again at the Zombie: Free model for General and Colonel box.

Ah yes, the $745 and $995 levels. Kinda, sorta, but not really.

→ FREEBIES (Watch this space too!)
You have already unlocked several FREEBIES: cool, free miniatures that will be included for FREE to pledges from LIEUTENANT BOX level and above.

Funny, that the $165 Lieutenant Box that states that it INCLUDES ACCESS TO ALL UNLOCKED FREEBIES and others in between the $745 level don't get access to that particular freebie. I guess my $400 isn't really valued, comparatively. At this rate I feel like I'll be better off pulling my pledge and pouring that money into DeadZone instead.

I can buy some RH models when they hit retail in 2014.

**cincydooley**

Alpharius wrote:
cincydooley wrote:
Hulksmash wrote:
None of those are free models but thanks for taking what I asked out of context as an excuse to put up things that are only enhancing the basic retail items, not the value of the year out pre-order.

Exactly. I haven't looked at these "troop box upgrades" as anything beneficial. This was all gak they were planning on doing anyway, and it's just a cop out 'bonus' for them to attempt to enhance value on a surface level.

The Infamous "Fake Stretch Goal"?!?

I still think they'll unveil some 'real' incentives for people to join in and/or increase their pledges, sometime soon, certainly before Thursday or Friday...

I'll admit, I'm about ready to drop for various reasons (and yes, Alph, the impending Wrath of Kings KS is one of the

).

**Hulksmash**

I thought it was about that long ago.

So 75k since the last freebie to add value to pledging early and for 500k they just reveal a silouette(sp?). Sounds about par for the course.

**Kroothawk**

prankster wrote:
#42 was unlocked but not added to any pledge level for free. They instead increased the free money in the top two (at that time) pledges in the same post.
The last free miniature, Jinx, was unlocked at $425k on the 25th of June.

Oops, you are correct, so every General and Colonel box got a free 30 resp 60$ merchandise, not a specific 10$ free miniature.

Azazelx wrote:
Funny, that the $165 Lieutenant Box that states that it INCLUDES ACCESS TO ALL UNLOCKED FREEBIES and others in between the $745 level don't get access to that particular freebie.

See above, it is a money bonus 3-6times worth as much, not a specific miniature.

**keltikhoa**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
keltikhoa wrote:
Breotan wrote:
So, since I'm too busy to do any more mathmatical acrobatics with the various pledge levels, could someone tell me if it would be worth my time to switch from Lieutenant to Captain or Major? Or just stay at Lieutenant and up my pledge amount? Oh, and let's not worry about the EB stuff.

I just used the pledge calculator to figure a captain box (365). Change it to lieutenant (165) and the price jumps to $385. Which accounts for the $20 extra models you get as a captain. So other than the free extra models no there is no real difference

So basically it's the difference between free shipping and paying for shipping. Not a bad move queaff?

Aff.

**Warmaster Primus**

AlexHolker wrote:
Warmaster Primus wrote:
I just looked through the guidelilnes and I didn't see any exceptions.

Notice how they keep on using the phrase "Hardware and Product Design projects"? Miniatures are neither part of the "Hardware" nor the "Product Design" project categories.

Pretty sure product design applies to just about every category where you're actually making stuff. I could be wrong, but then again I'm married to a product designer and have had several friends launch kickstarters.

**Kroothawk**

But what do actual kickstarter people and production designers know

**prankster**

The CONNOISSEUR BOX is about to LAUNCH
Update #49 · Jul 3, 2013 · comment
So, what do you get in the Connoisseur pledge and how much is it worth?

• All 38 Heroines in high quality casts made from hand-poured resin, each with a numbered certificate of authenticity → Kickstarter cost: $640 (Estimated price if they were sold at retail and not numbered): $901)

• A very special 54mm scale edition of the Necro-Priestess Nepharya in a high quality cast made from hand-poured resin with a numbered certificate of authenticity → Kickstarter cost: $40 (Estimated price if they were sold at retail and not numbered: $60)

• A signed and numbered full-colour, printed version of the Toughest Girls of the Galaxy digital artbook. As its digital counterpart, it will be a lavishly designed coffee table book with all the TGG concept art, many unreleased sketches, stories and background, … → Kickstarter cost: $40 (Estimated price if they were sold at retail and unsigned: $45)

• A 5 hour webinar with the Raging Heroes team (in english and in 2 parts) in which you'll discover how we conceive, develop, and sculpt Raging Heroes miniatures → Kickstarter cost: $120

So, this means a total Kickstarter value of $840, with an estimated would be retail value of $1126.
But we are discounting it further, and so this pledge or add-on (see the difference explained here) will be available in Limited Quantities for $695.

But you'll have to be fast. This pledge level (also available as an add-on) add-on opens up in about 10 minutes: see the countdown here.

Note 1: We know that some of you want to get the printed version of the TGG Artbook, so we've been working on that and we're offering it as a very special limited privilege in the Connoisseur Box. We won't be able to offer additional copies within the Kickstarter. However, the book will be available in our webshop at some point in the future.

Note 2: The sculpting and art direction webinar. The webinar offered in the Connoisseur Box will allow you to discover what process we use to create our art and miniatures at Raging Heroes. It is a combination of the two webinars we've offered as separate pledges (3D Sculpt Webinar and Art Direction Webinar), and so you get even more value here because they were supposed to be 2 Webinars at $120 each, that we've grouped in a single event. This also means that if you've pledged for the 3D Sculpt or the Art Direction Webinar, you'll instantly be upgraded to this 5-hour Webinar, and gain a 50% discount in the process.

Note 3: Will these 38 Heroines be available in hand-poured resin outside the Connoisseur Pledge or Add-on? No. This is a too costly and time-consuming process, so we cannot offer them outside this Connoisseur Pledge or Add-on.

**Krinsath**

Kroothawk wrote:
But what do actual kickstarter people and production designers know

In this particular case, not much. From the post where they announced the restrictions, you can find in the comments section from Cindy Au, listed as the Kickstarter Head of Community:

"The new guideline prohibiting renderings applies only to projects categorized as Product Design or Hardware. Other categories, including Games, are not affected."

**Hulksmash**

Don't let facts get in the way of Kroothawk being snarky!

**prankster**

Well, there's currently 30 of this level available, and 3 have been claimed.

The $695 price point was slightly better than I expected, but then I was just doing rough maths earlier today when I said over $700.

**Alpharius**

Yikes!

I'm sure the quick movement on the "EMINENCE" level gave them some confidence on that, but still - wow.

Maybe the 'hand poured' resin helped as well?

**prankster**

Maybe, either way they've had 17 people move to that pledge level, one of them dropping down from "EMINENCE" to do so, along with the associated EB hopping as they open up.

So not the same rush as for the other limited pledges, but certainly something that's attractive to people.

**Alpharius**

I don't think there's any 'maybe' about it!

I don't think I've ever seen so many high dollar pledge levels get snapped up that quickly...

**Mathieu Raymond**

One can argue about success of a KS or how it is run, but ultimately, the total is going up. They are doing things that would seem unorthodox, but people seem to want these specialty items and huge pledge levels.

Ok, so far, I owe a beer to both pretre and TalonZhan.

**Alpharius**

Mathieu Raymond wrote:

Ok, so far, I how a beer to both pretre and TalonZhan.

Sounds like maybe you've already consumed all the available beers near you!

**Buzzsaw**

Hulksmash wrote:
@Kroothawk

You are correct. I got them mixed together for some reason but it does show a basic trooper box and a heavy unit. Both don't quite live up to their concept art though.

On a seperate note:

When was the last free model added at this point? Can't remember the funding level the cat mascot was unlocked.

The last "freebie" was Jinx (the IE Cat mascot) at $450,000, update #26, June 25, 2013.

With regards to the renders, it's interesting to note that the first unit (below) was released in Update #6 on June 8, 2013,

The most recent "render" would be the 3D print Heavy Trooper, put out in Update #29, June 26, 2013.

Bearing that in mind, it's worth considering the words in Update #6;

Sculpts of the Troopers for the Kurganova Shock Troops

We know that buying things on concept only can be a delicate proposition. Yes, you already know that we have committed to having sculpts that are very true to the concepts. But we all know that an image is worth a thousand words.

And while we've already shown several Heroines' sculpts, we've read that some of you want to see how the troops concepts translate to sculpts.
So here are 3 sculpts of the Kurganova troopers.

**Kroothawk**

Mathieu Raymond wrote:
One can argue about success of a KS or how it is run, but ultimately, the total is going up. They are doing things that would seem unorthodox, but people seem to want these specialty items and huge pledge levels.

Ok, so far, I how a beer to both pretre and TalonZhan.

Last three days: 26k, 11k, now 21k and counting. 120 new backers. We will see what the usual end rush will bring. Still 3 days and 19 hours to go.

**Melissia**

Is that the resculpt of hte kurganovas that people were talking about? Because that's still rather disappointing.

**Buzzsaw**

Melissia wrote:
Is that the resculpt of hte kurganovas that people were talking about? Because that's still rather disappointing.

The picture I posted? No, that's the original render of the non-heavy troopers. To the best of my knowledge those troops have not been subject to revision.

**pretre**

Mathieu Raymond wrote:
One can argue about success of a KS or how it is run, but ultimately, the total is going up. They are doing things that would seem unorthodox, but people seem to want these specialty items and huge pledge levels.

Ok, so far, I how a beer to both pretre and TalonZhan.

I don't even remember what the bet was, but now I get free beer!

**timd**

Alpharius wrote:
I'm sure the $500K Milestone will bring...something?

There's also bound to be some additional incentives added in as we had towards the finish line, right?

Given the way the rest of the KS has been run, I certainly would not count on it. Unless you mean incentives like the Connoisseur level and freebies for Colonel and General levels, which are aimed strictly at the high rollers. For the great unwashed masses (and bulk of their pledgers): nothing...

All of the basics for a KS should already be done before we go into the last three days: all original figures unlocked, renders for the bulk of the troop types shown, freebie incentives to increase the numbers of pledgers at the base (or sweet spot) levels of pledges, etc. The last three days is the time to be showing new and unexpected products designed to give people a good reason to increase their pledges.

T

**Mathieu Raymond**

timd wrote:

Given the way the rest of the KS has been run, I certainly would not count on it. Unless you mean incentives like the Connoisseur level and freebies for Colonel and General levels, which are aimed strictly at the high rollers. For the great unwashed masses (and bulk of their pledgers): nothing...

T

Be nice now, we call them plebes to their faces.

**redstripe**

prankster wrote:
3) Communication / Involvement
Whilst they have improved since the start of the KS there's still a lack of involvement with backers at times. They tend to pop on, post a few comments here and there on the KS page, put up the updates and then go away for a few hours / over night. This leads to things getting missed / not answered.

I keep seeing similar comments in this thread. How often do you expect them to respond to questions on the KS page? You specifically mention "overnight." Are they expected to attend the KS page in shifts so they have 24hr coverage? They can't take a break from the KS page in order to eat, work their real full-time jobs, or attend to their families? What level of interaction is expected?

**Minx**

Just to appease the masses:

LnR wrote:And last but not least, we can officially announce that we are going to resume the unlocking of new Freebies and new Free Upgrades tomorrow...

**Buzzsaw**

2 new Unlocks: The Lulu's and Vera Krabbenhöft
Update #50 · Jul 3, 2013 · 1 comment

Incredible! We've sailed past the $500,000 mark and are now fast approaching $520,000 (in the time it took us to finish this update, we're now just a few hundreds shy of that number!) !!!

We cannot thank you enough for your support.
You may not have realised this yet, but in the opening video of the Kickstarter, we talk about unlocking 25 Heroines/characters. The way this Kickstarter is progressing, it looks like we're going to end up with as much as double that...
So, once again, thank you ever so much! This is an unbelievable ride.

So to celebrate this, we wanted to announce several things.

First of all, the much awaited Lulu's are now unlocked, and you can now include them as part of your pledge.

Second, we are also happy to unlock the ill-fated Vera Krabbenhöft, Army Standard of the Iron Empire (see her story further down below her image).

And last but not least, we can officially announce that we are going to resume the unlocking of new Freebies and new Free Upgrades tomorrow...

Through their long wandering in space, the people of the Iron Empire were exposed to so much radiation that most of those who did not die from it became sterile. Thanks to the necromantic findings they made on their new home world, they managed to rebuild a new society. But the question of demographics became a pressing one. The rare individuals able to conceive and bear children quickly ascended the social ladder and the Empress herself launched a program aimed at locating all fertile citizens and make sure they'd produce children together in the hope of creating a new fertile gene pool.

Quite often, the children conceived that way were taken away from their family to be raised inside imperial facilities in order to facilitate the genetic selection. This program was mostly a failure, though, as most of them also turned out sterile, and imperial scientists proved unable to identify a genetic pattern that would produce fertile descendants. Still, the Empire regularly continues to confiscate children that it thinks might hold the remedy for this curse.

When Vera Krabbenhöft entered the army, she already knew that she was one of the very few fertile women of her world. Being pretty sure that she or her children would be taken away to the imperial secret labs, she chose to pass herself as a disfigured undead. Indeed, one of the main reason most of the Iron Empire citizens always wear a respiratory mask, glasses or full helmet is as a form of social respect and politeness between the living and the undead, as the latter have no breath and a sometimes hollow gaze.

Because she never removes her hemet and pretends that her face is too damaged to be seen, she's been given the surname Krabbenhöft, which means 'Crab Head'. But sometimes, fate has a twisted sense of humour. As much as she wants to remain anonymous and hidden from view, a strange series of coincidences have landed her the position of Army Standard, a rallying point on the battlefield upon whom all gazes converge....

I like Crab Head...

**timd**

Minx wrote:
Just to appease the masses:

LnR wrote:And last but not least, we can officially announce that we are going to resume the unlocking of new Freebies and new Free Upgrades tomorrow...

And they have been saying that for what, a week? Far too late in the KS to pick up large numbers of new pledgers, especially in the US with a big, busy holiday weekend coming up.

T

**prankster**

redstripe wrote:
prankster wrote:
3) Communication / Involvement
Whilst they have improved since the start of the KS there's still a lack of involvement with backers at times. They tend to pop on, post a few comments here and there on the KS page, put up the updates and then go away for a few hours / over night. This leads to things getting missed / not answered.

I keep seeing similar comments in this thread. How often do you expect them to respond to questions on the KS page? You specifically mention "overnight." Are they expected to attend the KS page in shifts so they have 24hr coverage? They can't take a break from the KS page in order to eat, work their real full-time jobs, or attend to their families? What level of interaction is expected?

Maybe overnight was a bit of poor word choice, especially given that they seem to have switched to working to some variation of US time for the KS despite being based in France. The fact is, despite the updates they're putting out they don't give the feeling that they're overly involved in the KS project. They're often off doing other things, like sleeping and so on. Though as this is their company, and as such their job, I don't feel it's too much to expect to have the comments section of the KS open in the background and drop in and out. Rather than appearing shortly before and update is posted and then seemingly vanishing again 30 or so minutes later.

Even outside of the KS they don't seem to be communicating that much, having used their web contact form 24 hours ago I've not yet had any response other than the automated confirmation that my message was received. If they are going about their real full-time jobs then surely someone would be checking this and responding? Especially as it's their generic contact form on the website.

**Breotan**

(erroneous post).

**Melissia**

Buzzsaw wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Is that the resculpt of hte kurganovas that people were talking about? Because that's still rather disappointing.

The picture I posted? No, that's the original render of the non-heavy troopers. To the best of my knowledge those troops have not been subject to revision.

That sucks. Guess I'll just check this thread again in a few days or so.

I want the Kurganovas to not be lame and stupid :/