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 WolfStark wrote:

 Buzzsaw wrote:
Going off the url data, I think that image is from June of last year.

Damn, really? Really thought this is new material, which I think is not enough, why did they put a Blood Vestal their instead of a W40k mini?

The "Now on KickStarter" at the bottom leads me to believe Buzzsaw is correct; no point advertising something that you can't join in on now.

Also the lack of a 40k miniature is undoubtedly to avoid nasty letters from GW Legal. While GW might not have a legal leg to stand on, that'd be a lot of time and energy to fight a complaint and generally not something that any company would really be interested in doing. Just leave out the "problem children" and let other comparison shots do the work by proxy.

 Krinsath wrote:


Also the lack of a 40k miniature is undoubtedly to avoid nasty letters from GW Legal. While GW might not have a legal leg to stand on, that'd be a lot of time and energy to fight a complaint and generally not something that any company would really be interested in doing. Just leave out the "problem children" and let other comparison shots do the work by proxy.

So which Ork was it that rolls eyes?


I know hating GW is in the season now, but you just shot yourself in the foot.

Again though, wasn't this before the.... rethink?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
There are still people telling us that it's not all that bad.

And there are still lots of people acting as if this Raging Heroes are guilty of war crimes.

Oh HBMC, I'd missed your ridiculous hyperbole in this thread. Please do continue, because as everyone knows, the best way to defuse negative emotional states is to belittle the people affected by them and dismiss their reasons as petty and insignificant.


Anyway, anyone notice the lovely wee caveat about dropships in the shipping options section of the PM? The one where if at least 3 people don't choose to use the same location you do, they'll retroactively remove that location as an option and, one must assume since the PM says once it's locked it's locked, thus leave you stuck waiting until all the models you've selected are ready before you get anything.

Haljin wrote:

 Krinsath wrote:


Also the lack of a 40k miniature is undoubtedly to avoid nasty letters from GW Legal. While GW might not have a legal leg to stand on, that'd be a lot of time and energy to fight a complaint and generally not something that any company would really be interested in doing. Just leave out the "problem children" and let other comparison shots do the work by proxy.

So which Ork was it that rolls eyes?


I know hating GW is in the season now, but you just shot yourself in the foot.

My apologies for not going through every single image in the KickStarter and responding to the question posed by WolfStark in regards to a specific image.

However, the idea that GW is overly loose with C&D letters involving their IP is not exactly news nor unwarranted speculation; they can and do frequently send them out whether they could actually win an action or not. A small company, no matter how right, tends to try to avoid dealing with such nonsense. One look at Chapterhouse's legal fees explains why quite readily.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Anyway, anyone notice the lovely wee caveat about dropships in the shipping options section of the PM? The one where if at least 3 people don't choose to use the same location you do, they'll retroactively remove that location as an option and, one must assume since the PM says once it's locked it's locked, thus leave you stuck waiting until all the models you've selected are ready before you get anything.

I obviously don't have the pledge manager to confirm this, but if so that's...well that's just special. One would hope that if they do retroactively axe a Dropship location they'd let those 1-2 people opt for personal wave if they wanted though. One would hope...

Who said it first in this thread? Hope is the first marker on the road to disappointment.

We need an orkmoticon for a "snare drum, high hat" bad joke.

Hope is the denial of reality.

I don't know if it is a deliberate effort on their part, or if they still have no idea how infamous I am in the KS comment section *cough, cough*

But they responded to one of my emails within the hour. Granted, it was for distribution spots in the province, but still, they are making genuine efforts, or are being very magnanimous.

Okay, so no one's broken Godwin's Law just yet, but the size of these girls...

So that pic up above, is that an older pic, for sure? Because if that's the height of the girls, I'll likely go with my backup plan of just getting a couple, rather than getting an entire army.

It's a very, very old pic. They did some adjusting which led to a lot of discussion and them swearing to never ever post WIP stuff again.

So like I said, Russian Roulette.

 BrookM wrote:
It's a very, very old pic. They did some adjusting which led to a lot of discussion and them swearing to never ever post WIP stuff again.

Blegh... I'm still not sure what to do on my end. Thoughts on picking up more troops guys?

Going for a whole army, a platoon or just a few?

If worried about the size of the models and not stuck with a massive pledge, go for a platoon. You can always explain a difference in size as the girls being from a different place with different gravity or somesuch.

I threw this together, but so far it's a best-guess given the base sizes, angles of photography, and 3D prints scaling (ie the metal and resin production casts will be the same size as the 3D prints).



~iPaint

 BrookM wrote:
Going for a whole army, a platoon or just a few?

If worried about the size of the models and not stuck with a massive pledge, go for a platoon. You can always explain a difference in size as the girls being from a different place with different gravity or somesuch.

Platoonish? I'm thinking about adding 10 heavy and 10 regular troopers to my LT pile of heroines.

Yeah, I was planning on the usual command squad and three or so platoons, but...

Might just go with a couple heroines and see how big they really are.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Going for a whole army, a platoon or just a few?

If worried about the size of the models and not stuck with a massive pledge, go for a platoon. You can always explain a difference in size as the girls being from a different place with different gravity or somesuch.

Platoonish? I'm thinking about adding 10 heavy and 10 regular troopers to my LT pile of heroines.

Assuming you like what you see, I'd go for it at that level. It's a comparatively small cost, you will (someday) get some very detailed models and if you later decide you don't like them as much as you thought it's reasonably simple to shift a small lot like that to someone else for what will probably be only a little bit less than it cost you (if you even take a loss).

Very little risk in that, IMO, assuming there's nothing on the horizon that might be of greater interest to you in the meantime.

If anything, you can always field them as a Tempestus Scion platoon, they certainly look high-tech enough to fit that role.

Honestly, on the scale point, has GW ever mentioned why their Space Marines are so tiny?

Someone on this very forum has a quote saying that Space Marines are the right scale, it's the other sculptors who can't be bothered to make other minis fit correctly.

If I were you, Eric, I'd go all heavy or all regular, just so you can field them as Tempestus. Or a group of five heavies (command) and the rest as regular (scions). If you go that route, however, make sure you select N+5 girls to make sure you can field full squads.

Spin cast resin... or metal? hmmm

Do you want to wait more... or less?

So Mathieu, is there a dropship location being set up in Quebec? Montreal?

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Going for a whole army, a platoon or just a few?

If worried about the size of the models and not stuck with a massive pledge, go for a platoon. You can always explain a difference in size as the girls being from a different place with different gravity or somesuch.

Platoonish? I'm thinking about adding 10 heavy and 10 regular troopers to my LT pile of heroines.

I have the exact same problem. But about 5 times larger. They were supposed to be mixed into Cadian squads after a little converting and weapon swaps ( Ieven bought like 100 bit lasguns..)

I will never get overexcited at Kickstarter again

On a related note: I like how people are praising the live chat. Of course if the PM wasn't so clunky there would be no need for live chat and them wasting their time on it in the first place.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Someone on this very forum has a quote saying that Space Marines are the right scale, it's the other sculptors who can't be bothered to make other minis fit correctly.

If I were you, Eric, I'd go all heavy or all regular, just so you can field them as Tempestus. Or a group of five heavies (command) and the rest as regular (scions). If you go that route, however, make sure you select N+5 girls to make sure you can field full squads.

Well that's why I was thinking 10 and 10. I have two full squads that way, and plenty of girls for options if I find a set of Skirmish rules I can adapt easily (Any one interested in working with me on that project, PM me). I'm also considering the jump up to wave shipping... but my main issue there is I'm moving in two months and thus need my new address.

greywulf wrote:So Mathieu, is there a dropship location being set up in Quebec? Montreal?

Nope, not a single dropship in Canada. They will only investigate new locations after the crazyness is done, methinks. So I paid the extra 15$ of peace of mind. I knew Valet was on the verge of giving up about 6 months ago, I was just hoping against hope.

KalashnikovMarine wrote:

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Someone on this very forum has a quote saying that Space Marines are the right scale, it's the other sculptors who can't be bothered to make other minis fit correctly.

If I were you, Eric, I'd go all heavy or all regular, just so you can field them as Tempestus. Or a group of five heavies (command) and the rest as regular (scions). If you go that route, however, make sure you select N+5 girls to make sure you can field full squads.

Well that's why I was thinking 10 and 10. I have two full squads that way, and plenty of girls for options if I find a set of Skirmish rules I can adapt easily (Any one interested in working with me on that project, PM me). I'm also considering the jump up to wave shipping... but my main issue there is I'm moving in two months and thus need my new address.

I... I'm having a hard time understanding this one. You know you're moving, but you don't know where, and it's in 2 months? Plastic (wo)men might have me mildly annoyed, but that kind of situation would have me breaking out in hives, man.

So, I decided to go and ask them about the scale

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Hi, is there any chance for a comparison shot of the finished minis with other companies' minis? I would be especially interested in the troops. I know you showed some WIPs during the campaign a long time ago, but I want to make sure how the finalized versions measure up

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Charlie
Hi

This old picture is pretty good regarding the size of the troops

I'm searching a recent one for you, made by James Wappel
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That'd be great


Charlie
Here it is

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/10245474_10152303646751168_8995973577837956489_n.jpg

(hope the link works)
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It does

Ok, so the troops follow the same scale?

I remember reading somewhere that they were meant to be a bit smaller than heroines

Charlie
Yes pretty much, they'll be heroic 28mm

Except they are still taller than GW, a little bit and I didn't learn anything new. Ah well, guess some knifing will have to be done.

Still not locking the pledge, just in case there will be more renders near the end, though I assume there won't be. Also, anyone else concerned a little bit with the drop ship terms? Basically, if something goes wrong you are screwed, you cannot even change the dropship

Well, I'm hoping for at least some more images of the troops (the various weapon options) before locking in my pledge.

It's a shame that they don't have any new scale shots that actually show the troops rather than the heroines.

If my customers from the French diaspora are anything to go by, photography is sacrosanct to them and showing a picture that is less than perfect is almost a deadly sin. We might be waiting quite a bit for pictures from them directly.

It feels like an eternity since their last meaningful update with proper pictures of new stuff or even actual finalized minitures.