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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:21:40
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Therion wrote:HamHamLunchbox wrote:
Why releas more "sidegames" instead of all the miniatures we still need?
Because the way GW sees it, there's 100 guys in the world who are interested in Sisters models, while there's potentially thousands of guys who'll buy some new edition of Space Crusade or HeroQuest.
I was actually referring to apocalypse as side game and not specialist games like space hulk,necromunda...
And of course people are buying things like spacehulk and space crusade because they usually are limited edition and have some cool minis in it.
Releasing SoB would be so easy. One box with all the heavy weapons and the option to built sisters or seraphim. ONE freaking box.
GW: the reason why we cant have nice things
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:30:34
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Apoc is also the perfect time to release a few "gap filler" models, so things like the Hydra or the Harpy or whatever. But no. 1-click-bundles ahoy!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:33:04
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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How much was the Baneblade before it went up to £85?
And the Khornemower and others are £95.
I laughed. Sad. I thought the big monolith would be £50-60, silly me!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:34:21
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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It's particularly bad that with some of the one click bundles, the money saved if bought from an independent with a discount would buy you a whole new army as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:37:32
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Something like that; But it was a baneblade only kit. they combined the baneblade & stormlord kits into a dual kit.
still too much of a price increase; but not as bad as it looks at first.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:38:28
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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So new Baneblade is all 8 variants combined. At +15€.
Who doesn't need every piece of those 295 should get some of the old boxes.
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Target locked,ready to fire
In dedicatio imperatum ultra articulo mortis.
H.B.M.C :
We were wrong. It's not the 40k End Times. It's the Trademarkening.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:42:13
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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The bundles have always been odd marketing. One would imagine the giving bundles a small discount (even 5%) would be worth it. Then they could at least market them as moneysavers, even if the actual discount wouldn't be terribly large. I'd imagine the increased sales would cover the discount.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:47:07
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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So the new terrain pieces will have rules for 40K games in the box, but there is no mention of those rules being elsewhere? Hopefully they're a free PDF on the website or in a White Dwarf or something. Like others, I would be interested in seeing how powerful the anti-flier fortifications will be in standard 40K, but I shouldn't have to buy the model in order to see the rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:48:59
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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I doubt Gw will publish the terrain rules outside the boxes, they don't want customers freeloading by scratch building their own.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:49:04
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
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Be thankful they're even doing that, the alternative is making you buy the $80 Apocalypse book or some kind of $50 "Terrain in the 41st Millenium" supplement or some crap like that.
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Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:50:14
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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Sidstyler wrote:Be thankful they're even doing that, the alternative is making you buy the $80 Apocalypse book or some kind of $50 "Terrain in the 41st Millenium" supplement or some crap like that.
Stop giving them ideas!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:51:56
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Sidstyler wrote:Be thankful they're even doing that, the alternative is making you buy the $80 Apocalypse book or some kind of $50 "Terrain in the 41st Millenium" supplement or some crap like that.
No, no, no. Three separate $9.99 "Terrain of the 41st Millennium" iOS only documents.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:54:56
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Executing Exarch
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davethepak wrote: Ravenous D wrote:... $300 for a case and a book. Who the feth can justify buying this junk?
The same people who buy other prestige products (its a marketing term, look it up).
Like:
* Collectors editions of comics that sold for 25 cents and pay $500
* Sports cars that are $160,000
* People with no kids who never go camping/off road and buy an $50,000 suv
* A rolex watch.
* A 55" tv (or a 70" for that matter).
* An autograph
* a "signed" anything
* a "was used by ...(insert famous person name here)" item
* an big engagement ring
* old chairs from a stadium...
* a Tshirt from a concert for $50.
Get the idea?
While I won't buy most of those things...there are people who will.
The new cases are cool....but I will spend my money on other toys.
See most of those things are resellable, increase in value, functional, or have an affordable price point. Warhammer does not increase in value, nor will it ever, those "limited editions" aren't worth jack, and wont be worth jack in 10 years.This is a box, with a book, for a game you wont play more then a few times for $300. At least last time they were doing cheap bundles, but this is just dumb.
The only thing that is actually fair is the 125 dice for $30
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:57:35
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote: Sidstyler wrote:Be thankful they're even doing that, the alternative is making you buy the $80 Apocalypse book or some kind of $50 "Terrain in the 41st Millenium" supplement or some crap like that.
Stop giving them ideas!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:58:04
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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SwampRats45MK wrote:Dam I wanted to get 1 Baneblade and another Shadowsword but not a 170 Canadian. Any word at whether the previous separate boxes that are still in circulation will go up to the new kit's price?
I am pretty sure that would be illegal. At least very dishonest.
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SickSix's Silver Skull WIP thread
My Youtube Channel
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking. = Epic First Post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 12:59:11
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Previous boxes go to land fill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 13:01:40
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Executing Exarch
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Or to the managers collection/friends, only landfill trip I saw was when the head trainer showed up and took all the dreadfleet and left the store in his rental car.
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 13:02:07
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Wow, they put a broken model up for display: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=&prodId=prod2130074a
Take a look at her in 360 degree view.
Also, the Baneblade only went up €15 in price for us. Used to be €95, is €110 now,
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 13:07:53
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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wow broken rear track.....
and yeah i want the rules for those new quad LC batteries
and another thing on the iBook WD ( dont know if its in print) but apparently the strategic asset cards are the eldar psycic power cards... very handy for us chaos players
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CSM 20,000 Pts
Daemons 4,000 (ish)
WoC over 10,000
6000+ Pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 13:09:45
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Dakka Veteran
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Well, this is the same Baneblade they've had up since it first came out. After sitting in storage for so long, the piece must have fallen out and got lost. The photography team noticed it and suggested that they get a replacement piece for the tread, but procurement told them that spending $140 on a new kit just for one piece was ridiculous. Photography suggested going to a bits seller, but legal reminded them that they no longer existed. So, they decided to just photograph the dang thing as-is and not worry about it too much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 13:18:57
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Lansirill wrote: Well, this is the same Baneblade they've had up since it first came out. After sitting in storage for so long, the piece must have fallen out and got lost. The photography team noticed it and suggested that they get a replacement piece for the tread, but procurement told them that spending $140 on a new kit just for one piece was ridiculous. Photography suggested going to a bits seller, but legal reminded them that they no longer existed. So, they decided to just photograph the dang thing as-is and not worry about it too much. Great story, someone is paying attention. It is not the first, there is a broken/incorrect built wraithguard on the front of that box too. Photo team shouldn't be QA but they are getting sloppy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 13:28:42
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Sheffield, City of University and Northern-ness
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Howard A Treesong wrote:How much was the Baneblade before it went up to £85?
And the Khornemower and others are £95.
I laughed. Sad. I thought the big monolith would be £50-60, silly me!
It was £60 when it was released back with the original Apocalypse, then went up to £70 at some point between now and then, and now they've bundled the extra stuff that came with the shadowsword/stormlord kit into it and bumped the price up to £85. Whilst the price at £70 was possibly a tad unreasonable, the amount of extra stuff you get for the extra £15 is well worth it I'd say (though that is coming from an Ork player who is planning on covering the entire thing in plasticard and cannibalising the extra gunz.)
So yeah, current price increase taken on its own is quite reasonable for the extras that you get, but the price it came from is slightly unreasonable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 13:28:53
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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SickSix's Silver Skull WIP thread
My Youtube Channel
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking. = Epic First Post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 13:43:47
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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Very piss poor indeed.
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Fury from faith
Faith in fury
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 13:43:48
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Goliath wrote: Howard A Treesong wrote:How much was the Baneblade before it went up to £85?
And the Khornemower and others are £95.
I laughed. Sad. I thought the big monolith would be £50-60, silly me!
It was £60 when it was released back with the original Apocalypse, then went up to £70 at some point between now and then, and now they've bundled the extra stuff that came with the shadowsword/stormlord kit into it and bumped the price up to £85. Whilst the price at £70 was possibly a tad unreasonable, the amount of extra stuff you get for the extra £15 is well worth it I'd say (though that is coming from an Ork player who is planning on covering the entire thing in plasticard and cannibalising the extra gunz.)
So yeah, current price increase taken on its own is quite reasonable for the extras that you get, but the price it came from is slightly unreasonable.
Ah right, I remember paying £60 so it having increased by more than half that raises an eyebrow.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 13:48:00
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Executing Exarch
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The jetbike autarch 360 is the same, there is a massive metal chip on the lance arm, he isn't even attached to the bike and the banner is busted.
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 14:02:56
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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The New Miss Macross!
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At least they avoided a Sony PS3 $599! moment and didn't put the prices of various articles in the youtub videos.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 14:15:38
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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I see GW have changed their logo on their website from red/yellow to a greeny gunmetal colour and a skull (obviously).
Is that a limited think for Apoc or is it a permanent change?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 14:15:50
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Sheffield, City of University and Northern-ness
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Howard A Treesong wrote: Goliath wrote: Howard A Treesong wrote:How much was the Baneblade before it went up to £85?
And the Khornemower and others are £95.
I laughed. Sad. I thought the big monolith would be £50-60, silly me!
It was £60 when it was released back with the original Apocalypse, then went up to £70 at some point between now and then, and now they've bundled the extra stuff that came with the shadowsword/stormlord kit into it and bumped the price up to £85. Whilst the price at £70 was possibly a tad unreasonable, the amount of extra stuff you get for the extra £15 is well worth it I'd say (though that is coming from an Ork player who is planning on covering the entire thing in plasticard and cannibalising the extra gunz.)
So yeah, current price increase taken on its own is quite reasonable for the extras that you get, but the price it came from is slightly unreasonable.
Ah right, I remember paying £60 so it having increased by more than half that raises an eyebrow.
I think your maths is slightly dodgy there  half of £60 is £30, so it would have to be more than £90 to have increased by more than half that
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/29 14:16:24
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
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Jervis Johnson
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Is it just me or does it look like they just did a black wash over plastic for the Tesseract Vault's inside parts? It looks unpainted. Whatever it is the grey nearly unpainted look is really bad.
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