"Codex: Iyanden" released as book and electronic version

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**Quark**

Kirasu wrote:
The main problem I see with people being excited over GW releasing expensive supplements is that this will become an excuse for GW to never put any kind of FOC altering rules again in the codices.

You mean like taking a Spiritseer to make Wraithguard/Wraithblade troops, the very definition of an Iyanden thing to do, in Codex: Eldar?

**pities2004**

alienvalentine wrote:
ashikenshin wrote:
codex: ultramarines anyone? ... anyone? ... just me? ok then..

You mean Codex: Space Marines?

It took me a second to realize I didn't post this, stupid pictures. At least my emperor is politically correct

**Trevak Dal**

Lovepug13 wrote:
My kingdom for an "Iron Warriors / Night Lords / Alpha Legion / Word Bearers" specific book....

I dont mind which one......just something like this....pretty please lol.

Raptors as troops..........TAKE ALL MY MONEY

Hell yes to the Raptors as Troops. The Raptor/Warp Talon kit is the best thing to come out of the chaos release, and if I hadn't already made raptors out of Beserker kits and loyalist jump packs I'd order 4 boxes today.

Markable Dreds and drop pods/not crappy Dreadclaws would be glorious too, maybe a Rhino assault vehicle? Or Single Slaughterfiends (Defilers ridden/controlled by Khorne Beserker Cowboys and share their statline) or having chosen as a Non FOC retinue for each Lord that counts as scoring and can take Bikes, Jump Packs, Terminator armor or Marked Mounts.

Of course I'm still so damn satisfied with the Tau codex, they will have to work hard to bring me back to Chaos. And Apocalypse ain't gonna do it.

**Manchu**

haroon wrote:
Manchu wrote:
Welp, using IA11, you can us a Wraithseer as your second HQ choice.
Manchu I hope so I have that model, but it will depend on the wording of the supplement you may not be able to take things from codex eldar freely it may have a list of things you are allowed to take.

We'll see but I figure it's pretty unlikely.

**Slayer le boucher**

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I mostly just think it's absurd you have to pay so much to get the rules to play an army. If they wanted to release a separate colourful fluff book with pictures and background, sure, whatever, but having to pay so much to get the rules is just crazy.

When it comes to the actual rules required to play the game I'd be more than happy if they came in a black and white soft cover pamphlet, easier to navigate than a hardback anyway.

But that would go against GW's policy of fleecing customers until they leave and then fleecing remaining customers even more to compensate.

Thats how Chapter Approved worked back in the day, but for 30$ you had a full 140 pages book, with all the army's erratas and faqs, new rules for divers types of units for different armies and DIY Vehicles Creation rules.

Still remembers the days of FULL Death Company BA lists, or Chaos Cult Terminators and Jugger riding Khorne Deamon Princes...

I do hope they don't blow the eventual Legion supplement...

Trevak Dal wrote:

Hell yes to the Raptors as Troops. The Raptor/Warp Talon kit is the best thing to come out of the chaos release, and if I hadn't already made raptors out of Beserker kits and loyalist jump packs I'd order 4 boxes today.

Markable Dreds and drop pods/not crappy Dreadclaws would be glorious too, maybe a Rhino assault vehicle? Or Single Slaughterfiends (Defilers ridden/controlled by Khorne Beserker Cowboys and share their statline) or having chosen as a Non FOC retinue for each Lord that counts as scoring and can take Bikes, Jump Packs, Terminator armor or Marked Mounts.

Of course I'm still so damn satisfied with the Tau codex, they will have to work hard to bring me back to Chaos. And Apocalypse ain't gonna do it.

Dreadclaw are far superiro then Pods, the only thing Pods have for them is that they can come turn 1, the rest the SM can keep it.

A Dedicated transport and turn one DS Dreadclaws would be awesome ( too good?...)

And yeahs the possibility to dedicate vehicles to the Gods or a new unit variant of the Chosen would be gold...

A whole unit of CHosen mounted on Juggers...*shudders* oooh i like that idea...

**ausYenLoWang**

tell you what though isnt the most ignored CSM legion the Thousand Sons, those poor chaps just copy paste, id love for them to get a new book

**-Shrike-**

Yep, Thousand Sons got the short end of the stick... again.

**morgendonner**

Pff idk what you guys are talking about, Thousand Sons got a Soul blaze banner! That's all they needed!

**lord_blackfang**

morgendonner wrote:
Pff idk what you guys are talking about, Thousand Sons got a Soul blaze banner! That's all they needed!

I laughed a little at first, but then it turned into crying somehow.

**Phoenix-Nyx**

I like the supplement idea, would be interesting go get CSM Legions, more Elder craft worlds, SM chapters: Salamanders, Black templars, White Scars... Inquisition codex with Deathwatch, Battle Sisters supplements... (I think Blood Angels and Space Wolfs will be own codex armies)

Yes, GW stuff doesn't come for free... But you only need to get those that you are interested in.

**Puscifer**

Hang on... just had a light bulb moment...

They could easily write a Harlequins supplement for a Harlequin army.

It's been long overdue imo.

**BrotherOfBone**

Death By Monkeys wrote:
@ashikenshin - That Codex: Ultramarines you wanted? It's called Codex: Space Marines...you know, just in case you didn't notice that there are more Ultramarine special characters in the book than any other Chapter.

To be fair, only by 1, and nobody uses Chronus, Telion, Tigurius or Calgar... In fact, the only Ultramarines Character I've seen used is Sicarius, and I've played a lot of Ultrmarine players x/ Whereas all the other I've seen 3 or 4 times :3

**Just Dave**

I can't help but suspect people are getting their hopes up a bit: the Iyanden Supplement doesn't look set to include that many rules, whilst I can't see Legions being covered until the CSM Codex is updated (which is surely a long way off).
Of course, this (or the price) could change, particularly depending on the reception of the Iyanden supplement.

**pretre**

Just Dave wrote:
: the Iyanden Supplement doesn't look set to include that many rules,

I'll just leave this here. Iyanden book:

via Games Workshop Previews and transcribed by dangermouse on page 1 wrote:
Wargear:
*Celestial Lance - 35pts
This crystal lance was once borne by Drastanta, Tempest of Starlight and Phoenix Lord of the Shining Spears. Alas, Drastanta was ever over-proud and much given to needless lone battles. Drastanta came late to Asurmen's final stand and found his mentor already fallen before the foul might of the Keeper of Secrets N'kari. Keening with rage and sorrow, Drastanta slew the Daemon, the energies of the lance shattering the creature's vile spirit. Drastanta emerged from the fires of Asure where his mentor had not, but he soon vanished into the tumult of the war-torn galaxy. In the centuries since his final recorded battle, the Celestial Lance has passed from shrine to shrine and craftworld to craftworld, the better to keep alive the tales...

*The Wraithforge Stone - 30pts
This was once the waystone of the long dead Bonesinger Ivaril Brightshard. It was Ivaril who aided Mehlendri Silversoul in adapting the infinity circuit into a soul reservoir, and Iyanden has never known a more skilled shaper than he. Ivaril's soul has long since departed into the infinity circuit, but legend tells that the echo of it remains in the Wraithforge Stone and allows its bearer to manipulate wraithbone into new forms just as Ivavril once did.

*During each of your Movement phases, nominate a single Wraithlord or Wraithknight within 6" of the bearer and roll a D6. On a roll of a 1 or 2 nothing happens. On a...

*Warlords - When choosing an Iyanden army, you can choose one Wraithlord or Wraithknight to be your Warlord, even though it is not an HQ choice.

*Shadow Council - Iyanden army may take up to 5 Spirit Seers as a single HQ choice, rather than 1.

*Gifts of Asuryan - Any character in your army that may select Remants of Glory, may instead select from Gifts of Asuryan presented opposite, as the points cost shown. A character cannot choose items from both lists. Note the Wraithforge Stone and Guardian Helm of Xallathon do not replace a weapon.

*Spiritseer Psychic Powers - Any Iyanden Spiritseer that generates his psychic powers from the Runes of Battle discipline treats Voice of Twilight (see below) as their Primaris Power, rather than Conceal/Reveal

*Warlord Traits - An Iyanden Warlord may roll on the Warlord Traits table presented here, instead of those in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook or Codex: Eldar.

*1 A Hero For Ages Past and Future - This is a soul of peerless lineage, its every deed a redoubled echo of forebears long dead.

Rolle a D3; the Warlord can make this many re-rolls over the course of the game. These re-rolls can be used for To Hit rolls, To Wound rolls, Armour Penetration rolls and saving throws.

**Puscifer**

We've seen those tidbits of info.

Looks great.

**pizzaguardian**

pretre to the rescue again!

ot , i agree that more supplements with reasonable price would enrich the hobby but they need to come at a fast pace.

I wouldn't want to go to years with only 2 codex and 2 supplement releases. One codex or suypplement relase every month would be great .

**pretre**

Puscifer wrote:
We've seen those tidbits of info.

Looks great.

Did we? I didn't see it in the thread. My bad if so. Saw it over on Faeit.

edit: Also, it was combatting Just Dave's 'There aren't a lot of rules in it anyways...'

**Manchu**

... well, that could be all there is. Seems likely to me.

**pretre**

Manchu wrote:
... well, that could be all there is. Seems likely to me.

Umm, that's not even complete text and it references entries not listed there. So it obviously isn't 'all there is'.

**Manchu**

pretre wrote:
Umm, that's not even complete text

Yes, there are a few more inches on the pages in question. What I meant was, we may already have seen at least a part of every page that has has rules and maybe a significant part at that. I agree with Dave and don't think there's much reason to believe what has been shown indicates a dense rules release.

**Puscifer**

Manchu wrote:
pretre wrote:
Umm, that's not even complete text
Yes, there are a few more inches on the pages in question. What I meant was, we may already have seen at least a part of every page that has has rules and maybe a significant part at that. I agree with Dave and don't think there's much reason to believe what has been shown indicates a dense rules release.

Now this is what I'm afraid of.

Just enough to get by and not much else. The description that the preview gives is that this add on gives Ghost Warrior Players a way of bringing the Wraith units to the forefront instead of a supporting role.

I'd like to see how this works. Saturday can't come quick enough.

**Manchu**

Yeah, I'm definitely getting it. But I predominately want the pretty pictures.

Rules (all else being equal) are just icing on my blue'n'yella cake.

**Brother Weasel**

BrotherOfBone wrote:
Death By Monkeys wrote:
@ashikenshin - That Codex: Ultramarines you wanted? It's called Codex: Space Marines...you know, just in case you didn't notice that there are more Ultramarine special characters in the book than any other Chapter.

To be fair, only by 1, and nobody uses Chronus, Telion, Tigurius or Calgar... In fact, the only Ultramarines Character I've seen used is Sicarius, and I've played a lot of Ultrmarine players x/ Whereas all the other I've seen 3 or 4 times :3

Use em or not, they are there...

**Kroothawk**

pretre wrote:

I'll just leave this here. Iyanden book:

via Games Workshop and written by a reader for the community on Faeit? wrote:

via Games Workshop ??
I highly doubt that this was written by a reader for the faeit blog and then published by Games Workshop

In other words, think twice before you copypaste stuff from that website, esp. what he thinks are credits.

**pretre**

Kroothawk wrote:
pretre wrote:

I'll just leave this here. Iyanden book:

via Games Workshop and written by a reader for the community on Faeit? wrote:

via Games Workshop ??
I highly doubt that this was written by a reader for the faeit blog and then published by Games Workshop

In other words, think twice before you copypaste stuff from that website, esp. what he thinks are credits.

I think he means transcribed. That's also why I put a question mark. The info was in the GW previews. I think it is a valid copy paste though. I'll edit my original post to make it more clear.

**Manchu**

It's just a transcription from pages shown in the vid. The transcription appears on page 1 of this thread (and really ought to be in the OP).

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Edited OP.

**Sgt.Roadkill**

What happened to them phasing crap like this out? Have I just been playing this game so long I am seeing the 3rd ed micro codex comeback..... just without the small price tag.

this is crap. if they wanted something like this they should have done a new craftworld codex and spread the love a bit and it may have been worth the price.

**pretre**

Manchu wrote:

Edited OP.

Aha! It was on page one, just not OP. That's why I missed it.

**PalmerC**

I agree with the comments that the price seems right for the quality of the codex/books they have been putting out.

As a Biel Tan player I will still be getting this not only just to have it but occasionally trying out a list specific to this codex. I also think of course they should come out with a Biel Tan codex to support a heavy aspect based army. I like the idea of allowing certain aspects as troops that are not currently in a BT specific codex.

**ashikenshin**

Brother Weasel wrote:
BrotherOfBone wrote:
Death By Monkeys wrote:
@ashikenshin - That Codex: Ultramarines you wanted? It's called Codex: Space Marines...you know, just in case you didn't notice that there are more Ultramarine special characters in the book than any other Chapter.

To be fair, only by 1, and nobody uses Chronus, Telion, Tigurius or Calgar... In fact, the only Ultramarines Character I've seen used is Sicarius, and I've played a lot of Ultrmarine players x/ Whereas all the other I've seen 3 or 4 times :3

Use em or not, they are there...

yeah, they are kind of sucky. Still I meant that after codex:space marines is released; that they release a supplement for us smurfs