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2013/06/04 20:49:07
Subject: What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
Rented Tritium wrote: Man, a lot of people ITT have completely bought into the idea that kids are worse at all.
What's worse is that most of you are pretty young, so you're comparing "kids these days" to kids in a day that you never experienced. You weren't there, how do you know they were better back then? Are you basing it on TV and movies from the time? Because if so, lol.
What do you mean by a lot? I've seen like maybe 2 people say that they feel kids are worse today.
2013/06/04 20:53:40
Subject: What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
We have more individualism now, where as in the past societies were more uniformed. Because we have a lot more emphasis on individual expression nowadays, it means people sometimes clash and bicker over the most pettiest of things. That's one theory.
Less emphasis on discipline and manners too so that could also be a reason, you don't really hear Sir or Madame that much any more. Plus a lot of media makes lauded figures out of characters that aren't exactly responsible, decent people: e.g. Charlie Sheen, Paris Hilton, The Kardashians, etc. Douchebag types apparently make for good TV which then causes it to reflect on our culture as a whole (it could be argued.) A lot of people I know are pleasant people regardless of the crap on telly that supposedly influences us though, just saying.
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2013/06/04 20:55:03
Subject: What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
MrDwhitey wrote: Every generation complains about the next generation.
And the previous one.
And anything. Ever.
But what previous generation gave us Justien Beiber?
Huh?! HUH?!?!?!
What about Hitler?! HUH!?!?
"So, do please come along when we're promoting something new and need photos for the facebook page or to send to our regional manager, do please engage in our gaming when we're pushing something specific hard and need to get the little kiddies drifting past to want to come in an see what all the fuss is about. But otherwise, stay the feth out, you smelly, antisocial bastards, because we're scared you are going to say something that goes against our mantra of absolute devotion to the corporate motherland and we actually perceive any of you who've been gaming more than a year to be a hostile entity as you've been exposed to the internet and 'dangerous ideas'. " - MeanGreenStompa
"Then someone mentions Infinity and everyone ignores it because no one really plays it." - nkelsch
FREEDOM!!!
- d-usa
2013/06/04 20:57:46
Subject: What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
2013/06/04 21:00:41
Subject: Re:What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
Necroshea wrote: Kids are growing up in an age where being rude gakkers to people is hailed as the greatest showing of comedic skill...
That's common in a lot of friendship in all ages a lot of friends like to take the piss out on each other, like my brother shares racist jokes with his black friend but is he sincere about the racism in the jokes? Of course not.
Well of course. While the reasoning behind it can be weird and passive aggressive (I'm not even going to go into female friendships), I think a healthy friendship involves a good amount of laughter, and what better way to do that than through jokes and pranks and the like.
But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about being outwardly rude to strangers. I'm talking about videos where people harass bystanders and post it online, only to get high fives and likes. I'm talking about sucker punching a bystander and yelling world star. I wonder if there's a connection between people being rude and people having decreased social skills. Hmmm.
Also, after attaining many a friend that does not share my race, I've come to find out that racial jokes are the best jokes.
“Sometimes I can hear my bones straining under the weight of all the lives I'm not living.”
― Jonathan Safran Foer
2013/06/04 21:32:32
Subject: Re:What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
Ahtman wrote: "When you stare into the abyss, it also, uhm, you know, does some staring itself" - The Dude.
god I miss those games.....
why the feth does everything have to be 3d first person... top down view all the way.
EDIT*
now a days, its not that there are so many more douches per capita, although there certainly are more douches just because the population in general has gone up
Its that every douche has the whole frikkin internets to post his douchist ways uppon... so now that all douches are on you tube genning hits... we notice it more.
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2013/06/04 21:44:31
Subject: Re:What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
It hasn't changed through the last 20 years, it's just that it's shown around more thanks to TV, internet, social media. It's just way more obvious now.
"You're a wizzard Luke" -Gandalf the White
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Poor ignorant guardsmen, it be but one of many of the great miracles of the Emperor! The Emperor is magic, like Harry Potter, but more magic! A most real and true SPACE WIZARD! And for the last time... I'm not a space plumber.
Rented Tritium wrote: Man, a lot of people ITT have completely bought into the idea that kids are worse at all.
What's worse is that most of you are pretty young, so you're comparing "kids these days" to kids in a day that you never experienced. You weren't there, how do you know they were better back then? Are you basing it on TV and movies from the time? Because if so, lol.
Well, we can't all be hardened, worldly, and wise like the 18 year old OP. If the kids are worse nowadays, I don't notice. They're obnoxious little gits, don't get me wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm still an obnoxious git at 29, just much larger.
We'll wait until I've seen several more generations of them before I pass final judgement.
All kids have been obnoxious since the dawn of time. Don't think your generation (if you're 18, you're part of it) is special.
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.” -Socrates
2013/06/04 22:29:40
Subject: What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
It's not that people now days are bigger douches, it's that the Internet and other widely available communication allows you to be exposed to a greater amount of people, and thus a greater amount of douches.
2013/06/04 22:40:33
Subject: What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
Being a teen in the new 'dreaded generation,' I can definitely say that music plays a huge part in the behavior of the youth. Although you could definitely argue that each generation since the 1920's had its own music that preached about defiance and change, this past decade has been filled with some of the most mindless lyrics and writing styles. Essentially, musical pop culture has morphed from an 'be yourself' attitude to a 'conform to the pseudo-independence' set of ideals in which teens and children are convinced that by buying OBEY hats and t-shirts they are unique and cool.
I guarantee you that I'm not really as smart as the test says:
Test Your IQ
2013/06/04 22:47:14
Subject: What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
killykavekommando wrote: Being a teen in the new 'dreaded generation,' I can definitely say that music plays a huge part in the behavior of the youth. Although you could definitely argue that each generation since the 1920's had its own music that preached about defiance and change, this past decade has been filled with some of the most mindless lyrics and writing styles. Essentially, musical pop culture has morphed from an 'be yourself' attitude to a 'conform to the pseudo-independence' set of ideals in which teens and children are convinced that by buying OBEY hats and t-shirts they are unique and cool.
This is the worst thing I've ever read.
"PEOPLE LIKE DIFFERENT MUSIC AND CLOTHES THAN ME. THAT MEANS THEY'RE BAD AND I'M GOOD."
2013/06/04 22:58:15
Subject: What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
killykavekommando wrote: Being a teen in the new 'dreaded generation,' I can definitely say that music plays a huge part in the behavior of the youth. Although you could definitely argue that each generation since the 1920's had its own music that preached about defiance and change, this past decade has been filled with some of the most mindless lyrics and writing styles.
O rly?
We got the Beat, the Go-gos, 1980:
Spoiler:
See the people walking down the street
Fall in line just watchin' all their feet
They don't know where they're want to go
But their walking in time
They got the beat
They got the beat
They got the beat
Yeah, they got the beat
See the kids just gettin' out of school
They can't wait to hang out and be cool
Hang around 'til quarter after twelve
That's when they fall in line
They got the beat
They got the beat
Kids got the beat
Yeah, kids got the beat
Go-Go music really makes us dance
Do the pony, puts us in a trance
Do what you see just give us a chance
That's when we fall in line
'Cause we got the beat
We got the beat
We got the beat
Yeah, we got it
We got the beat
We got the beat
We got the beat
Everybody get on your feet
(We got the beat)
We know you can dance to the beat
(We got the beat)
Jumpin' and get down
(We got the beat)
Round and round and round
We got the beat
We got the beat
We got the beat
Essentially, musical pop culture has morphed from an 'be yourself' attitude to a 'conform to the pseudo-independence' set of ideals in which teens and children are convinced that by buying OBEY hats and t-shirts they are unique and cool.
You remember back when kids were all wearing the same Hot Topic (division of Abercrombie and Fitch) black shirt with vaguely-edgey-but-still-corporate-safe saying on it around the turn of the century? You remember when all the kids had to have bell bottoms because their parents didn't get it and it made them cool? How about zoot suits? Pepperage Farm remembers.
killykavekommando wrote: Being a teen in the new 'dreaded generation,' I can definitely say that music plays a huge part in the behavior of the youth. Although you could definitely argue that each generation since the 1920's had its own music that preached about defiance and change, this past decade has been filled with some of the most mindless lyrics and writing styles. Essentially, musical pop culture has morphed from an 'be yourself' attitude to a 'conform to the pseudo-independence' set of ideals in which teens and children are convinced that by buying OBEY hats and t-shirts they are unique and cool.
It's cute how you're so absurdly wrong.
On an unrelated note, I think one thing that could have something to do with the state of discontent in today's youth is just how much older generations kind of screwed us over. I've no illusions that I will ever own any land, or receive a pension of any kind. My greatest hope in life is that I can find employment that can last me until the day I die. The rest of my generation and I will be inheritors to a broken and dying world that is continually exploited for the sake of financial gain. Your generation may be lucky enough to die before you see the greater effects, but going forward, my generation will have to clean up your mess.
You can complain about my generation all you want, but at some point, you have to take responsibility for creating this monster.
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2013/06/04 23:02:26
Subject: What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
killykavekommando wrote: Being a teen in the new 'dreaded generation,' I can definitely say that music plays a huge part in the behavior of the youth. Although you could definitely argue that each generation since the 1920's had its own music that preached about defiance and change, this past decade has been filled with some of the most mindless lyrics and writing styles. Essentially, musical pop culture has morphed from an 'be yourself' attitude to a 'conform to the pseudo-independence' set of ideals in which teens and children are convinced that by buying OBEY hats and t-shirts they are unique and cool.
It's cute how you're so absurdly wrong.
I think one thing that could have something to do with the state of discontent in today's youth is just how much older generations kind of screwed us over. I've no illusions that I will ever own any land, or receive a pension of any kind. My greatest hope in life is that I can find employment that can last me until the day I die. The rest of my generation and I will be inheritors to a broken and dying world that is continually exploited for the sake of financial gain. Your generation may be lucky enough to die before you see the greater effects, but going forward, my generation will have to clean up your mess.
You can complain about my generation all you want, but at some point, you have to take responsibility for creating this monster.
You did even read the first sentence of his post.
In short: your post is just as bad as his.
2013/06/04 23:05:23
Subject: What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
The reference I made was more general. I could have gone into great depth about his statements, but others already have. I've edited my original post to emphasize that.
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2013/06/04 23:11:37
Subject: What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
Socrates, c.400BC.
You could argue however that Socrates lived during a similar 'cycle' of society, of relative wealth, prosperity and a lack (compared to other periods) of serious external threats and hardships.
When things have 'gone south', after pestilence and war (or being forced to work in a coal mine for that matter!) the character of society's youth changes accordingly to fit the times.
“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”
Socrates, c.400BC.
You could argue however that Socrates lived during a similar 'cycle' of society, of relative wealth, prosperity and a lack (compared to other periods) of serious external threats and hardships.
When things have 'gone south', after pestilence and war (or being forced to work in a coal mine for that matter!) the character of society's youth changes accordingly to fit the times.
Wasn't there a bit of trouble between Athens and Sparta around Socrates time?
2013/06/05 01:13:38
Subject: What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
LordofHats wrote: Athens and Sparta were in the middle of the Peloponnesian Wars.
More of a Pelopennesian Scuffle, those were.
Um lol? The battles of the late 5th century BC and early 4th radically altered the balance of power in Greece. That's not a scuffle. Maybe a scuffle by our standards but not to the city states. Athens went from being the most powerful city in Greece to being the weakest, and Sparta went from no. 2 to being no. 1 to being no. 5 at best by the end with underdogs Corinth and Thebes coming out on top. The wars were not a scuffle.
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I totally understand why my comment would be received negatively. The way I phrased it made me sound like a total narcissist and hypocrite. However, what I really meant is that although every generation seems like a bunch of irresponsible morons to the previous ones, I really see just how screwed up we are specifically. Fafnir is absolutely right, though. We are inheriting a world of corrupt politics, dying ecosystems, and violence. It just seems that some of us get too caught up with being 'swag,' while the important thing is to take the responsibility for mankind's mistakes and fixing what's been broken. Wow, I just sounded pretty preachy, didn't I?
I guarantee you that I'm not really as smart as the test says:
Test Your IQ
2013/06/05 02:22:55
Subject: What's the root cause of this generation's...douchey-ness?
MrDwhitey wrote: Every generation complains about the next generation.
And the previous one.
And anything. Ever.
But what previous generation gave us Justien Beiber?
Huh?! HUH?!?!?!
Actually that's your useless generation's fault. If you feth heads had headed the signs, headed the warnings... all you had to do was nuke Canada in response Celine Dion (now known as the Herald of Darkness) coming south and everything would have been fine.
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
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