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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/06 15:57:03
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Chances are, they'll be given that same Forge World price as the rest of the range.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/06 15:59:20
Subject: Re:GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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Lansirill wrote:Heck, even the iPad can run Kindle... so all those long neglected Apple users can have these wonderful Digital Editions.
Honestly, it's nice to see GW getting a clue every once in a while. I doubt I'll be buying any digital rulebooks unless they come at a significant discount (which they won't,) but some of the small splash things might be fun to get.
Nice that they "get a clue?"
Give me a break. All the research bears out that Android users spend significantly less on Google Play, etc than iOS users do on iTunes. Releasing the e-codexes as iOS only at first made plenty of sense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/06 16:07:37
Subject: Re:GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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cincydooley wrote: Lansirill wrote:Heck, even the iPad can run Kindle... so all those long neglected Apple users can have these wonderful Digital Editions.
Honestly, it's nice to see GW getting a clue every once in a while. I doubt I'll be buying any digital rulebooks unless they come at a significant discount (which they won't,) but some of the small splash things might be fun to get.
Nice that they "get a clue?"
Give me a break. All the research bears out that Android users spend significantly less on Google Play, etc than iOS users do on iTunes. Releasing the e-codexes as iOS only at first made plenty of sense.
You do realise this is because many apps are free on Android and ad supported right?
Even things like Angry Birds are paid apps on IOS and free to download on Android.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/06 16:16:20
Subject: Re:GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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cincydooley wrote:
Nice that they "get a clue?"
Give me a break. All the research bears out that Android users spend significantly less on Google Play, etc than iOS users do on iTunes. Releasing the e-codexes as iOS only at first made plenty of sense.
Unfortunately none of those studies show us whether those users even play table top games and would buy digital GW offerings. That alone will heavily skew the result. Moreover, your summary of those studies neglects to mention that many purchases on iTunes are free on the Android side.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/06 16:20:02
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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No, I realize that, but it still bears out in in-app purchases as well. Android is catching up in regards to in app purchasing, but I think the last data I saw had it at still around 20% lower than on iOS, which is great progress considering less than a year ago it was well over a 50% difference.
With all that in mind, it has always made sense for app publishers to release to iOS first. Automatically Appended Next Post: Here. This is a pretty good infographic that runs some recent data down:
http://blog.appannie.com/game-of-phones/ Automatically Appended Next Post: And then of course there's this, which sort of shoots down your claim that "well, they're free on android:"
http://techcrunch.com/2013/03/28/in-app-purchase-revenue-hits-record-high-accounts-for-76-of-u-s-iphone-app-revenue-90-in-asian-markets/ Automatically Appended Next Post: Listen, I have no problem with Android and all of my overbearing friends that insist their RAZR HD is better than my iPhone because they can do more stuff with it, but to claim that GW was 'stupid' for dropping an app product on iOS first is simply foolish.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 16:43:45
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
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Its June 10th. the new additional are out and avaliable for download. I have to say I wasn't exactly impressed. I was inclined to buy the DA chapter master to see what additional info I can gain from Black libarary. But I am now skeptical because the cost is $4.99 CAD and length listed as '14 pages'. There are 3 sample pages and they are just pictures I already have from my codex. I'm wondering if this publication aren't just copy/paste material I already own through my codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 17:24:05
Subject: Re:GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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[DCM]
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Suddenly, I'm a lot less excited for these.
And a hell of a lot less likely to buy them!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 17:55:37
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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I swear they are doing this so they can later say, well we made digital products and they didn't sell, so why make more now??
The problem is that the trash they are making has no use and no one want this garbage anyway. This is stuff we should be getting in White Dwarf, not paying for as separate items.
Ridiculous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 19:47:56
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Ian Pickstock
Nottingham
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So what are they? Is it just fluff?
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Naaa na na na-na-na-naaa.
Na-na-na-naaaaa.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 21:14:11
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Very cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 21:19:44
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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If you can keep your head, while all about you are losing their's, then you have probably completely misunderstood the situation!
6,000pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/10 22:14:16
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Another poster on another forum has said that these are a poor imitation of the old Index Astartes. Very little is interesting in them. He had the Index Astartes: Codex Astartes, Dreadnought and Warlord: Azrael.
They're about 60 tablet pages each, so 25-30 full pages each. That's about all I can say without copy/pasting someone else's post without permission.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 02:45:11
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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[DCM]
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For $5 each, I guess they're thinking that's 'good enough'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 03:05:51
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Battleship Captain
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I was thinking about this yesterday as I was reading through the new Eldar Codex - there's a ton of information that was in previous versions of the Eldar codices that is now only hinted at in the latest version.
I can see GW recycling all of this old material into digital books like this. While they're relatively useless for old timers like me and others, for folks new to the hobby and the 40k 'verse, they might actually provide some insight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 17:31:27
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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http://www.blacklibrary.com/games-workshop-digital-editions Grand Master Azrael Azrael is the Supreme Grand Master of the Dark Angels Chapter, the Keeper of Truth and bearer of the Lion Helm. Armed with the Sword of Secrets and Lion’s Wraith, Azrael guards the ancient lore of his Chapter and leads their hunt for the mysterious Fallen. The galaxy burns with the fires of countless wars and conflicts, heroes and villains leading their armies in endless battle against their foes. Warlords of the Dark Millennium explores the history, wargear and fighting styles of some of the galaxy’s most powerful warriors. June 2013 • eBook, digital download – available in ‘epub’ and ‘mobi' formats. Estimated length: 14 pages. • ISBN 9781782531425 The Codex Astartes details the doctrine of the Space Marine Chapters, compiled and written by the Primarch of the Ultramarines, Roboute Guilliman. While not every Chapter follows the Codex completely, it lays the foundation for their organisation and tactics. About This Series: The Adeptus Astartes are genetically engineered warriors, created by the Emperor of Mankind and tempered by centuries of bloody warfare. The Index Astartes series explores in detail the many elements of the Space Marines armies on and off the battlefield, from the newly inducted Scouts to the vast battle-barges that carry them to war. June 2013 • eBook, digital download – available in ‘epub’ and ‘mobi' formats. Estimated length: 19 pages. Dreadnoughts are powerful fighting machines piloted by the entombed remains of great Space Marine heroes. Often used in shock assaults or boarding actions, Dreadnoughts are capable of using heavy weapons with deadly and brutal proficiency. About This Series: The Adeptus Astartes are genetically engineered warriors, created by the Emperor of Mankind and tempered by centuries of bloody warfare. The Index Astartes series explores in detail the many elements of the Space Marines armies on and off the battlefield, from the newly inducted Scouts to the vast battle-barges that carry them to war. June 2013 • eBook, digital download – available in ‘epub’ and ‘mobi' formats. Estimated length: 14 pages. • ISBN 9781782531395 The shuriken catapult is the preferred weapon of the Eldar and uses solid-state ammunition carved into monofilament discs, which are propelled into the enemy. Reliable and deadly Eldar Guardians use these weapons to great effect where their ‘shurikens’ cut easily through enemy armour and flesh. About This Series: Weapons are the tools of war, and with them and other wargear, soldiers ply their bloody trade on countless worlds across the galaxy. Every race favours its own methods of dealing death to their foes, each one tailored to the brutal genius of its creators and the relentless needs of battle. June 2013 • eBook, digital download – available in ‘epub’ and ‘mobi' formats. Estimated length: 7 pages. Long rifles are used almost exclusively by Eldar Rangers and Pathfinders. A peerless sniper weapon, the long rifle can cut down an enemy at extreme ranges, its unerring beam finding the weak points in even the most heavily armoured of foes. About This Series: Weapons are the tools of war, and with them and other wargear, soldiers ply their bloody trade on countless worlds across the galaxy. Every race favours its own methods of dealing death to their foes, each one tailored to the brutal genius of its creators and the relentless needs of battle. June 2013 • eBook, digital download – available in ‘epub’ and ‘mobi' formats. Estimated length: 7 pages. First three are $4.99, last two are $1.99.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 19:21:56
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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[DCM]
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They're expecting people to pay $2 for 7 pages on the Skuriken Catapult and the Long Rifle?!?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 19:32:26
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yeah...
I'm not understanding this one, either. PASS!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 19:43:23
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Alpharius wrote:They're expecting people to pay $2 for 7 pages on the Skuriken Catapult and the Long Rifle?!?
That could be a riveting seven pages.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 19:49:19
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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pretre wrote: Alpharius wrote:They're expecting people to pay $2 for 7 pages on the Skuriken Catapult and the Long Rifle?!?
That could be a riveting seven pages. 
For 2 bucks I want those seven pages to explain to me life, the universe, and everything.
And how the feth my missus can undo a bar strap with one hand in half a second when all ten of my fat digits have been fiddling with them for nigh on twenty years and it still takes me ten minutes.
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We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 19:51:56
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I think you meant bra strap. However, knowing your colorful past, perhaps there is an English pub device with which I'm unaware...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/11 19:56:04
Subject: Re:GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Battlefield Professional
Norwich, UK
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OK, formats that can used on PC/laptop - GOOD!
Somewhat dodgy prices for content - Not So Good
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 04:12:51
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Battleship Captain
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Did anyone else catch this?
Warlords of the Dark Millennium is an in-depth look at some of the most famous heroes (and villains) of the Warhammer 40,000 universe and features an extended background for each character, a detailed look at their wargear (featuring new artwork) and rules for using them in games.
(emphasis mine)
Now, this seems a bit odd. I mean, for a warlord like Azrael who has his rules in the DA Codex, it just means a reprint of his codex rules. But this opens the door to other warlords who haven't had their rules printed yet. GW too lazy to write full Legion rules? Give them each a warlord that manipulates the FOC and adds a couple rules to your armylist - BAM. Cheap solution. (Which likely would satisfy no one, but I can see GW trying a dodgy fix like that!)
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Man, I wish there was a real Black Library where I could get a Black Library Card and take out Black Library Books without having to buy them. Of course, late fees would be your soul. But it would be worth it. - InquisitorMack |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 08:07:41
Subject: Re:GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Alpharius wrote:Suddenly, I'm a lot less excited for these. And a hell of a lot less likely to buy them! Remember that BL has been infected of late with the same stupid that infests GW-proper. It's destroyed the method in which the Horus Heresy books were been done, and now it's come to the electronic book side of things. They're just taking existing bits of a bigger book and selling them separately, and when combined it'll probably be more than the cost of the original book (or books). It's no different to selling individual chapters, or even taking 10 Dire Avengers and splitting them in two without reducing the price. And the a whole little eBook on ShuriCats? That's just crazy. I hope we get a whole book dedicated to Nemesis DOOOOM Fists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 11:44:43
Subject: Re:GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Arthedainian Captive
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I am not suggesting for a moment it would happen, but imagine a 6 pg, £2 "Shuriken Catapult" e-book, that when produced at the gaming table and presented to your opponent gives those weapons in your army increased range or some other funky ability. Online 'Pay to Play' brought to the tabletop.
Oh the hilarity!
As to the general thrust of this thread I love the main e-book range, and codex/rules going electronic is fantastic, but these flimsy pamphlets are ridiculous.
I'm sure "Codex-Frag Grenades" will be a riveting page turner.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 11:52:52
Subject: Re:GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Muddypaw wrote:I'm sure "Codex-Frag Grenades" will be a riveting page turner. I dunno man. The books on Pulse Pistols and Blood Fists are apparently real page turners.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 12:24:56
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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[DCM]
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Is there a reason why we need this thread and the other BL thread?
I'm thinking "No" unless I'm missing something?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 12:31:33
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Looks like the Dreadnought article is the same one published years ago in the WD under the Index Astartes banner, laaaaaaame.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 03:13:29
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Mighty Chosen Warrior of Chaos
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Ios Vs Android don't start it up xD. back on topic this is great news... not really liking these prices tho :/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/18 06:02:17
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Nasty Nob
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Well, if they put a few articles like that in every issue of White Dwarf I might consider it worth buying again and this does work out cheaper than that, so in principle, I'm OK with the idea.
Not that impressed by what they are offering so far, but in time they might get around to doing some original material that deals with things I actually find interesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/22 20:59:08
Subject: GW's and Black Library digital latest.
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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate
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I made the mistake of buying codex astartes
It is just a 12 page or so brief explanation of what a space marine is.
Really really awful product.
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