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I was slightly thrown aback when my favorite primarch was being left out of another Horus Heresy codex thingy so I wanted to make my own rules.

Magnus the Red, Primarch of the Thousand Sons
WS BS S T W I A LD SV
6 6 5 6 6 5 5 10 2+/ 3+ Invul Points: 600- 680?
Unit Type: Monstrous Creature
Unit Composition: 1 Magnus the Red (Unique)
Wargear: Golden Scarab Armor, Book of Magnus, Staff of Magnus
Special Rules: Forbidden knowledge, Psychic God, Primarch, Psychic Mastery 8, Primarch

Forbidden Knowledge: Magnus knows the following psychic powers: Paraoxysm, Living Lightning, Fortune, Tzeentch's Firestorm, Doom, Winds of Change, Warp Speed, Iron Arm
Psychic God: Magnus may cast up to 6 psychic powers per turn, ignores Perils of the Warp on a 2+, & possesses a 2+ Deny the Witch
Golden Scarab Armor: Grants Magnus a 2+ armor save & a 3+ invulnerable save
Book of Magnus:?
Staff of Magnus: Magnus may increase or decrease the outcome of a dice roll by one once per turn each


It's kind of bare bones, tell me what you think and I'll edit accordingly.

So...he is a level 4 psyker, who generates 4 warp charge tokens, but can cast 6 per turn?

I think this is a case of "I need to put in ALL the special rules!" syndrome here.

I thought Magnus the Red and the Thousand Sons followed worshipped Tzeetch and as such there isn't a cat in hells chance he would know or cast nurgles rot.

PastelAvenger wrote:
I thought Magnus the Red and the Thousand Sons followed worshipped Tzeetch and as such there isn't a cat in hells chance he would know or cast nurgles rot.

This is Pre-heresy and Magnus in his hundreds of journeys to the warp could have come across a nurglite daemon and learned it and never known it was a daemon.


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 curran12 wrote:
So...he is a level 4 psyker, who generates 4 warp charge tokens, but can cast 6 per turn?

I think this is a case of "I need to put in ALL the special rules!" syndrome here.

Thank you for pointing this out, fixed

Idk about Monstrous Creature, he's big sure but I don't see him smashing his way through rhinos, I could be wrong though I don't have too much knowledge about him.

Hahahaha, nope.

Try again, but this time actually look at the existing Primarch rules and come up with something like those.

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Hahahaha, nope.

Try again, but this time actually look at the existing Primarch rules and come up with something like those.

While I agree with the sentiment, could you for once in your life not sound like a colossal jerk?

 Kain wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Hahahaha, nope.

Try again, but this time actually look at the existing Primarch rules and come up with something like those.

While I agree with the sentiment, could you for once in your life not sound like a colossal jerk?

That's pretty much exactly what I did. I gave him Fulgrim's stats which seems to be the base, subtracted from his strength & I because Magnus is weaker than the other primarchs physically.

ThePrimordial wrote:
That's pretty much exactly what I did. I gave him Fulgrim's stats which seems to be the base, subtracted from his strength & I because Magnus is weaker than the other primarchs physically.

ThePrimordial wrote:

Forbidden Knowledge: Magnus knows the following psychic powers: Paraoxysm, Living Lightning, Fortune, Tzeentch's Firestorm, Doom, Winds of Change, Warp Speed, Iron Arm
Psychic God: Magnus may cast up to 6 psychic powers per turn, ignores Perils of the Warp on a 2+, & possesses a 2+ Deny the Witch
Book of Magnus:?
Staff of Magnus: Magnus may increase or decrease the outcome of a dice roll by one once per turn each .

None of that tripe appears on any of the primarchs rules.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

ThePrimordial wrote:
That's pretty much exactly what I did. I gave him Fulgrim's stats which seems to be the base, subtracted from his strength & I because Magnus is weaker than the other primarchs physically.

ThePrimordial wrote:

Forbidden Knowledge: Magnus knows the following psychic powers: Paraoxysm, Living Lightning, Fortune, Tzeentch's Firestorm, Doom, Winds of Change, Warp Speed, Iron Arm
Psychic God: Magnus may cast up to 6 psychic powers per turn, ignores Perils of the Warp on a 2+, & possesses a 2+ Deny the Witch
Book of Magnus:?
Staff of Magnus: Magnus may increase or decrease the outcome of a dice roll by one once per turn each .

None of that tripe appears on any of the primarchs rules.

Magnus is the only psyker primarch (counting these rules) so far given rules, and the rules are fluff accurate because he's the second strongest psyker to have
ever existed in the materium. Given the legion he gave birth to the forbidden knowledge rule is certainly in order and the staff of magnus rule is comparable to some of the other primarch rules
like Angron's gain one attack and Horus's point of the spear, albeit a lot less groundshaking.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

ThePrimordial wrote:
That's pretty much exactly what I did. I gave him Fulgrim's stats which seems to be the base, subtracted from his strength & I because Magnus is weaker than the other primarchs physically.

ThePrimordial wrote:

Forbidden Knowledge: Magnus knows the following psychic powers: Paraoxysm, Living Lightning, Fortune, Tzeentch's Firestorm, Doom, Winds of Change, Warp Speed, Iron Arm
Psychic God: Magnus may cast up to 6 psychic powers per turn, ignores Perils of the Warp on a 2+, & possesses a 2+ Deny the Witch
Book of Magnus:?
Staff of Magnus: Magnus may increase or decrease the outcome of a dice roll by one once per turn each .

None of that tripe appears on any of the primarchs rules.

You really need to work on your people skills.

 DarknessEternal wrote:

ThePrimordial wrote:
That's pretty much exactly what I did. I gave him Fulgrim's stats which seems to be the base, subtracted from his strength & I because Magnus is weaker than the other primarchs physically.

ThePrimordial wrote:

Forbidden Knowledge: Magnus knows the following psychic powers: Paraoxysm, Living Lightning, Fortune, Tzeentch's Firestorm, Doom, Winds of Change, Warp Speed, Iron Arm
Psychic God: Magnus may cast up to 6 psychic powers per turn, ignores Perils of the Warp on a 2+, & possesses a 2+ Deny the Witch
Book of Magnus:?
Staff of Magnus: Magnus may increase or decrease the outcome of a dice roll by one once per turn each .

None of that tripe appears on any of the primarchs rules.

Ease up off the jerk pedal. I love how you bash these rules yet offer nothing that could replace them. Or are you just so good at thinking up rules that everything else is garbage compared to what you make up?

so why is bumping posts forbidden on dakkadakka. It's normally a neccesity

 McNinja wrote:

 DarknessEternal wrote:

ThePrimordial wrote:
That's pretty much exactly what I did. I gave him Fulgrim's stats which seems to be the base, subtracted from his strength & I because Magnus is weaker than the other primarchs physically.

ThePrimordial wrote:

Forbidden Knowledge: Magnus knows the following psychic powers: Paraoxysm, Living Lightning, Fortune, Tzeentch's Firestorm, Doom, Winds of Change, Warp Speed, Iron Arm
Psychic God: Magnus may cast up to 6 psychic powers per turn, ignores Perils of the Warp on a 2+, & possesses a 2+ Deny the Witch
Book of Magnus:?
Staff of Magnus: Magnus may increase or decrease the outcome of a dice roll by one once per turn each .

None of that tripe appears on any of the primarchs rules.

Ease up off the jerk pedal. I love how you bash these rules yet offer nothing that could replace them. Or are you just so good at thinking up rules that everything else is garbage compared to what you make up?

DE has this weird habit of assuming he's utterly infallible and stating all his opinions as outright fact. And worst of all...I've never seen him crack a joke.

Glad to see we're all so above name calling here. Lock please.

I'm not saying Darkness is wrong, just that he could be a touch more polite about his disagreements. He's actually completely right, this Magnus is OP, but you can say that instead of calling it tripe.

 McNinja wrote:
I'm not saying Darkness is wrong, just that he could be a touch more polite about his disagreements. He's actually completely right, this Magnus is OP, but you can say that instead of calling it tripe.

He never is polite.

And after having a look, the physical stats are fine (Magnus was the size of a carnifex after all), but six powers per turn is more than a little nuts, and having powers from codices like the space wolves, chaos, and the Tyranids, the hell?

I think you'd be best served by having all the Imperial powers if this is pre-heresy Magnus. Well besides legion (Dark Angels, Blood Angels, Space wolves etc) specific ones anyway.

If you cannot contribute in a polite and helpful manner then it's best you don't post.

You could throw a drawback in to the psychic powers stuff. Maybe on the 2+ perils ignore roll or the 2+ DtW roll, a natural 1 always fails and results in X happening.

For the psychic powers, I don't know much about Magnus from the fluff but won't those powers basically turn him into an un-killable beat stick?