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So I just noticed in the Pistol Weapons rules of 6th Ed, ANYONE can dual-wield pistols. You can fire both, and they count as CCW. Am I reading this right?

Yes.
If you can take two pistols, you can fire both.

As noted above, dual wielding isn't available to "anyone" because only a select few units can ever purchase 2 pistols.

 Flinty wrote:
As noted above, dual wielding isn't available to "anyone" because only a select few units can ever purchase 2 pistols.

Wouldn't almost any sergeant be allowed to swap "Boltgun and/or bolt pistol" for any of the following: plasma pistol?

So, you could very easily have every sergeant in any marine army sporting a bolt pistol & plasma pistol or two plasma pistols.

 Green is Best! wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
As noted above, dual wielding isn't available to "anyone" because only a select few units can ever purchase 2 pistols.

Wouldn't almost any sergeant be allowed to swap "Boltgun and/or bolt pistol" for any of the following: plasma pistol?

So, you could very easily have every sergeant in any marine army sporting a bolt pistol & plasma pistol or two plasma pistols.

Yep - same's true for Imperial Guard and Sisters. Technically, you can have Dominions units 5-strong, which fire 2 plasma shots (Superior) and 2 melta shots (Dominions) at 12", all twin-linked to reduce Gets Hot odds.

(Interestingly, and off-topic, the same is true of Codices that stipulate 'Power Weapon' instead of giving the weapon's type - technically, you can have a Commissar/Commissar Lord with a power axe in one hand and a power maul in the other, and select on the fly which he is attacking with as his primary. Or, for that matter, a power fist in one hand and a power [whatever] in the other, if you think the extra strength in a pinch is worth losing the extra attack permanently.)

Mythal wrote:
. Technically, you can have Dominions units 5-strong, which fire 2 plasma shots (Superior) and 2 melta shots (Dominions) at 12", all twin-linked to reduce Gets Hot odds.

There is no technically about his. In larger point games, this is how I kit out my Dominion Sister Superiors. We even talked about adding a Ecclesiarch Priest with dual plasma pistols as well being attached, giving you 4 plasma and 2 melta gun shots that are twin linked. Granted, expensive as heck, but it should kill something dead.

I never did look at these rules too closely. Is this not restricted to characters?

It states all models with two pistols may use both. There is not further restrictions mentioned, it is just a two sentence rule so there isn't even room for further restrictions. Page 52, in case you want to flick quickly to see for yourself.

JinxDragon wrote:
It states all models with two pistols may use both. There is not further restrictions mentioned, it is just a two sentence rule so there isn't even room for further restrictions. Page 52, in case you want to flick quickly to see for yourself.

Gracias amigo.

Yeah, my Commissar-General rocks the Plasma-Bolt combo.

He has never fired a shot yet.

It means that you can make a pretty decent Cypher if you're using a DA army.

With this rule in mind Do you guys thing Dual plasma on Lord Commissar is worth the risk?
Starting to collect alot of exra bits and thinking about spicing up my standed Commie

You see?? This is why I love this site. SO MANY GOOD IDEAS!!! Just the thought of dual wielding SoB on foot :'D. I just converted on of my Superiors to dual plasma

I hate anything that can kill my own guys via bad luck. This is made even worse as a failure on the test ensures I don't even get a chance to wound the enemy. Given my string of bad luck in these games, hence the name Jinx, I lost more men to failed tests then I have successfully killed with these weapons. It has very much sowered my opinion on anything that has the get hot rules.

 Inquisitor Cyotle wrote:
You see?? This is why I love this site. SO MANY GOOD IDEAS!!! Just the thought of dual wielding SoB on foot :'D. I just converted on of my Superiors to dual plasma

Yeah, its pricey. But man, does it help "forge a narrative."

My friend runs DA veterans. He puts them in a drop pod. They each have a bolt pistol and plasma pistol. It is a very expensive unit, but when it drops, it kills something dead. Then, you have to spend your next turn killing said veterans because you cannot leave them alive in your backfield. Very annoying unit.

 Green is Best! wrote:

Yeah, its pricey. But man, does it help "forge a narrative." My friend runs DA veterans. He puts them in a drop pod. They each have a bolt pistol and plasma pistol. It is a very expensive unit, but when it drops, it kills something dead.

Space Wolf Wolf Guard can do double plasma pistols on a full unit if they really feel suicidal. Costly, but incredibly nasty.

Spetulhu wrote:

 Green is Best! wrote:

Yeah, its pricey. But man, does it help "forge a narrative." My friend runs DA veterans. He puts them in a drop pod. They each have a bolt pistol and plasma pistol. It is a very expensive unit, but when it drops, it kills something dead.

Space Wolf Wolf Guard can do double plasma pistols on a full unit if they really feel suicidal. Costly, but incredibly nasty.

19 Plasma shots where you can re-roll your 1s is downright vicious. Short range but you will burn through pretty much anything.

 Inquisitor Cyotle wrote:
You see?? This is why I love this site. SO MANY GOOD IDEAS!!! Just the thought of dual wielding SoB on foot :'D. I just converted on of my Superiors to dual plasma

I was going to, and then I realized a combi plasma saved me 25 points and was almost as effective considering I won't be charging with them anyways.

I have a Black Templars Techmarine with two plasma pistols and a servo-harness.

This means that the cumulative total of the weapons he has is:
1) Power axe
2) 3x Plasma Pistols
3) 2x Servo-arms
4) Flamer

And he can fire all three plasma pistols (one of which is twin-linked!) before charging with his axe and arms

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
I have a Black Templars Techmarine with two plasma pistols and a servo-harness.

This means that the cumulative total of the weapons he has is:
1) Power axe
2) 3x Plasma Pistols
3) 2x Servo-arms
4) Flamer

Sorry, you can either fire both Harness weapons, or one Harness weapon and one 'personal' weapon (BT Codex, page 36).

 Quanar wrote:

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
I have a Black Templars Techmarine with two plasma pistols and a servo-harness.

This means that the cumulative total of the weapons he has is:
1) Power axe
2) 3x Plasma Pistols
3) 2x Servo-arms
4) Flamer

Sorry, you can either fire both Harness weapons, or one Harness weapon and one 'personal' weapon (BT Codex, page 36).

Firing one harness weapon (the plasma pistol) and the two PPs he has is firing within those restrictions. Firingtwo pistols counts as firing one weapon as per gunslinger rules.

 Quanar wrote:

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
I have a Black Templars Techmarine with two plasma pistols and a servo-harness.

This means that the cumulative total of the weapons he has is:
1) Power axe
2) 3x Plasma Pistols
3) 2x Servo-arms
4) Flamer

Sorry, you can either fire both Harness weapons, or one Harness weapon and one 'personal' weapon (BT Codex, page 36).

the gunslinger rule allows both hand-held pistols to be fired

I disagree with reading it like that, but it seems I'm clearly out-numbered so I'll concede the point.

Gunslinger does not let you fire both pistols "as one weapon", it provides a unique exception to the "you may only fire one weapon per shooting phase" rule.

If the Servo Harness says "You may fire one Servo Harness weapon in addition to your normal ranged weapons", you can fire all three pistols.

If the Servo Harness says "You may fire one Servo Harness weapon in addition to one normal weapon" then you can only fire two of them.

I will agree with Furyou here.

The harness rule state you can fire one additional weapon at the same time as using one weapon from the harness. It is not giving you permission to add one harness based weapon on top of your normal attacks, but setting restrictions and limitations that must be followed when the rule is evoked. Should you evoke this rule, then you must meet the requirements within and go no further then the boundaries set. Should you fire more then one additional weapon then you have breached the limitations set by the rule, making the whole attack invalid.

A suggestion to those lamenting the risk of taking plasma pistols... Blood Angels can buy an infernus pistol for the same price.

 Super Ready wrote:
A suggestion to those lamenting the risk of taking plasma pistols... Blood Angels can buy an infernus pistol for the same price.

And half the range of a plasma pistol! What a bargain!

 DeathReaper wrote:

 Super Ready wrote:
Blood Angels can buy an infernus pistol for the same price.

And half the range of a plasma pistol! What a bargain!

Well, they also scatter only d6 when deep striking with jump packs... or not at all if Commander Dante is in the unit. So kind of a bargain for them.

Hmm. Lets see. Plasma Pistol... S7 AP2 Gets Hot... Infernus Pistol... S8 AP1 Melta.

On an Accurate Deep Striker? I'll take the infernus, thanks.

Only Dante is that accurate though.

So good if you are with him for an alpha strike, or to kill immobilized vehicles, other than that the Plasma is better.