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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 20:33:09
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Dakka Veteran
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My list would be:
1) Crons
2) GK
3) IG
4) Tau
5) Eldar
6) Nids
7) Chaos Daemons
8) DE
9) CSM
10) Dark Angels
11) Orks
12) Vanilla SM
13) SW
14) SoB
15) BT
16) BA
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 20:44:24
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Threads like this only really result in necrons being #1 followed by everything else with BT and SoB at the bottom.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 20:46:51
Subject: Re:How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Are Necrons really that good? I've never played them. There was one guy who did, but he moved on to DE before the new codex hit (actually come to think of it he's played about 5 different armies).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 21:47:11
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Major
Fortress of Solitude
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warpspider89 wrote:My list would be:
1) Crons
2) GK
3) IG
4) Tau
5) Eldar
6) Nids
7) Chaos Daemons
8) DE
9) CSM
10) Dark Angels
11) Orks
12) Vanilla SM
13) SW
14) SoB
15) BT
16) BA
Blood angels last?
Really?
GK is wayyyy too high up IMO, they are a pale shadow of what they once were.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 21:50:44
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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1) Crons
2) IG
3) CSM
4) Tau
5) Eldar
6) SW
7) GK
8) Chaos Daemons
9) Dark Angels
10) Orks
11) Vanilla SM
12) DE
13) Nids
14) BA
15) SoB & BT
Probably this, in my mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 22:21:29
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
Netherlands
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Rank them in what: Strength, usability, fluff?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/24 22:26:58
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 00:31:15
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Preacher of the Emperor
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An objective way to rank them based on strength would be to look at their performance in tournaments, I guess. Though you'd need to compensate for some armies being played more and some being played less, of course.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 00:47:02
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
The darkness between the stars
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And another question is possibly diversity? Would another factor of bests lists be whether they can have multiple army choices or are pretty much stuck to a single list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 00:53:54
Subject: Re:How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Yellin' Yoof
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I'd have to go with:
1. Chaos Space Marines
2. Necrons(though only with the one croissant list, the codex sucks as far as the game is concerned)
3. Tau
4. Grey Knights
5. Space Wolves
6. Eldar
7. Dark Eldar
8. Blood Angels
9. Dark Angels
10. Vanilla Marines
11. Black Templars
12. Orks
13. Tyranids
14. Imperial Guard
16. Sisters of Battle
17. Chaos Daemons(the new codex was cool, but they didn't fix the glaring flaws, imo)
I believe that's all but Iyanden, and I haven't played against that one yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 00:55:51
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Wait, wait, wait, wait... CD are worse than BT AND SoB...
wow, the Daemon players in your area must be really bad, I win most my games with the new 'dex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 01:05:47
Subject: Re:How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wooa, woooa, I play crons and they are no way 1st unless you are playing with the bakery of death list and that shouldn't count!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 01:07:13
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Yellin' Yoof
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Matt.Kingsley wrote:Wait, wait, wait, wait... CD are worse than BT AND SoB...
wow, the Daemon players in your area must be really bad, I win most my games with the new 'dex.
That is a possibility I only know one, and I've only played against him and another at a tournament. I've yet to see a win with that or the old codex, I'm afraid. And I was quite saddened by it, because he's a friend of mine, and he's cool and all, but I've never seen him win, lol
I personally play Orks, but ours isn't near what it once was in 5th, unfortunately.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 01:07:49
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'd place older codices toward the bottom that have not been updated to reflex taking maximum advantage of the new 6th edition rule set. But of course, this is all subjective anyway aside from several codices that have remained strong or got way better due to 6th ed or a 'dex update in 6th.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 01:09:10
Subject: Re:How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Yellin' Yoof
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TheDraconicLord wrote:Wooa, woooa, I play crons and they are no way 1st unless you are playing with the bakery of death list and that shouldn't count!
Yeah, like I said, I was only counting the Croissant list. Overrall, I'm not a fan of the codex because it's really the only really badass list, imo, but that one list is just about as good as you can be at a Tourney, from what I've seen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 02:21:48
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Wraithwing is also an powerful list for crons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 02:39:52
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
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1) Crons
2) IG
3) Tau
4) Eldar
5) GK
6) CSM
7) Nids
8) SW
9) CD
10)DA
11) Orks
12) DE
13) BA
14) SM
15) SoB
16) BT
Crons have repeatedly shown via tourniment results that they are top dog. Tau are showing up everywhere however as a tough army to beat for any melee and most cover-based lists. IG, however, trumps them with Executioner russes, Vendettas, and Manticores able to take down the tough threats from most lists (and the best ally selection). Eldar are still tough to gauge, but i think they have enough combinations to be up there with serpent spam. Beyond that you start into GK who have suffered from many armies running with ever more cost effective AP2-3 templates. After that its largely personal opinion as tourney ranking are all over the place with sub-top-5 slots.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 02:46:34
Subject: Re:How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Places
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Maurepas wrote:I'd have to go with:
1. Chaos Space Marines
2. Necrons(though only with the one croissant list, the codex sucks as far as the game is concerned)
3. Tau
4. Grey Knights
5. Space Wolves
6. Eldar
7. Dark Eldar
8. Blood Angels
9. Dark Angels
10. Vanilla Marines
11. Black Templars
12. Orks
13. Tyranids
14. Imperial Guard
16. Sisters of Battle
17. Chaos Daemons(the new codex was cool, but they didn't fix the glaring flaws, imo)
I believe that's all but Iyanden, and I haven't played against that one yet.
You must have REALLY bad IG players in your Area , IG have the Absolute Best Point-firepower Ratio in the Game right now - a Vendetta List will beat a Necon Air list because even 1's thats still a glance against necron armor - not to mention that IG Armor ( tanks ect. ) are Arguably the BEST in the Game ,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 02:53:01
Subject: Re:How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Yellin' Yoof
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Kasrkin229 wrote: Maurepas wrote:I'd have to go with:
1. Chaos Space Marines
2. Necrons(though only with the one croissant list, the codex sucks as far as the game is concerned)
3. Tau
4. Grey Knights
5. Space Wolves
6. Eldar
7. Dark Eldar
8. Blood Angels
9. Dark Angels
10. Vanilla Marines
11. Black Templars
12. Orks
13. Tyranids
14. Imperial Guard
16. Sisters of Battle
17. Chaos Daemons(the new codex was cool, but they didn't fix the glaring flaws, imo)
I believe that's all but Iyanden, and I haven't played against that one yet.
You must have REALLY bad IG players in your Area , IG have the Absolute Best Point-firepower Ratio in the Game right now - a Vendetta List will beat a Necon Air list because even 1's thats still a glance against necron armor - not to mention that IG Armor ( tanks ect. ) are Arguably the BEST in the Game ,
Again, that could be the case, I know two IG players, one likes to spam Valkyries and the other Leman Russes. I didn't find either tough to beat, though admittedly neither have used their IG armies since 5th.
Unfortunately the tourneys down here are generally filled with Space Marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 02:58:09
Subject: Re:How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Places
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Maurepas wrote: Kasrkin229 wrote: Maurepas wrote:I'd have to go with:
1. Chaos Space Marines
2. Necrons(though only with the one croissant list, the codex sucks as far as the game is concerned)
3. Tau
4. Grey Knights
5. Space Wolves
6. Eldar
7. Dark Eldar
8. Blood Angels
9. Dark Angels
10. Vanilla Marines
11. Black Templars
12. Orks
13. Tyranids
14. Imperial Guard
16. Sisters of Battle
17. Chaos Daemons(the new codex was cool, but they didn't fix the glaring flaws, imo)
I believe that's all but Iyanden, and I haven't played against that one yet.
You must have REALLY bad IG players in your Area , IG have the Absolute Best Point-firepower Ratio in the Game right now - a Vendetta List will beat a Necon Air list because even 1's thats still a glance against necron armor - not to mention that IG Armor ( tanks ect. ) are Arguably the BEST in the Game ,
Again, that could be the case, I know two IG players, one likes to spam Valkyries and the other Leman Russes. I didn't find either tough to beat, though admittedly neither have used their IG armies since 5th.
Unfortunately the tourneys down here are generally filled with Space Marines.
to give you a little bit of prospective on the Point-firepower ratio - all of these cost are "about " sense i have nither codex on hand
for the Same cost of a Ten man Marine squad with bolters i can get a Vet Squad with 3 plasma Guns and a Chimera --- and you can't base your entire idea on two players it is not accurate -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 03:20:38
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Slaanesh Veteran Marine with Tentacles
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1. Orks
2. Who cares
Green is best
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 03:25:51
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 03:39:27
Subject: Re:How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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You must have REALLY bad IG players in your Area , IG have the Absolute Best Point-firepower Ratio in the Game right now - a Vendetta List will beat a Necon Air list because even 1's thats still a glance against necron armor - not to mention that IG Armor ( tanks ect. ) are Arguably the BEST in the Game ,
str 9 las cannon vs AV 11 is not a glance on a 1....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 06:53:05
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Yellin' Yoof
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Now this is a message I can get behind,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 12:48:25
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The OP has to be trolling  Blood Angels? Weaker than Black Templars? I stopped using my Bangles army because, after so many years playing Sisters, fielding them with their 5th Edition Codex felt like cheating! Even if they aren't top of the heap any more (and I'd still peg them in the top three or four), they certainly aren't at the bottom
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 12:53:45
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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To the OP, Ranked how? You gave us no guidelines.
Power? Coolest Fluff? Least likely to be brought home to meet the parents? Most likely to get drunk after combat?
I can only assume you meant Ranked in Alphabetical order, so here is my ranking. In order. As it should be.
1) Black Templar
2) Blood Angels
3) Chaos Daemons
4) Chaos Space Marines
5) Dark Angels
6) Dark Eldar
7) Eldar
8) Grey Knights
9) Imperial Guard
10) Nectons
11) Orks
12) Sisters of Battle
13) Space Marines
14) Space Wolves
15) Tau
16) Tyrranids
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 12:53:47
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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Blood angels lower than the Black Templars and sisters?
You be trollin' mon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 13:01:51
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Shunting Grey Knight Interceptor
Finland
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1. Cron
2. GK
3. TAU
4. Eldar
5. CSM
6. Space Wolves
7. Dark Eldar
8. Tyranids
9. IG
10. Dark Angels
11. Orks
12. Daemons (Seriously, Warp Storm table is the only reason they are this low.)
13. Space Marines
14. Blood Angels
15. SoB/BT who cares
IG wont do so good without fearless granting IC's on them. Also CSM is pretty not-so-good tbh. atleast not better than TAU.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 13:04:49
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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IG lower than Tyranids? You're joking right?
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/25 13:32:17
Subject: How would you rank the current Codexes now (not counting allies)?
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Kain wrote:IG lower than Tyranids? You're joking right?
Why not? IG are a great allied army, but alone aren't that impressive. A good Tyranid army will usually beat a good IG army. They have great utility a an allied detachment but as a Primary are fragile and have quite a few weaknesses that can only be dealt with with allies.
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