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There's a local tournament coming up this Sunday, 6/30, and as of now, I really don't know what I want to bring. It is 1750 using the Bay Area Open mission objectives and it's going to be a somewhat competitive tournament thanks largely to the people who are going to be there. There will probably be about 30 players and some of the players include Janthkin (probably trying out his mechdar or maybe his more tried-&-true Swarmlord tyranids), Reecius (perhaps Footdar?) and Frankie (no idea what he's bringing) from Frontline Gaming, Adam with his nasty triple-Riptide list (2K Competitive - Wraithwing Tesla-spam Necrons vs Triptide Riptide Tau), Grey Therion and his triple-dreadknight Draigowing list, "The Upset-Kid" ImotekhTheStormlord who was my only loss at the BAO, John and his triple-stormtalon/triple-thunderfire cannon marines, Kingsley and his Space Marines+Tau (Best Space Marine player at the BAO) as well as others. Oh yeah, also coming is the winner of the Bay Area Open 2013, Liz Foster. The only good player I know not playing is Grant Theft Auto and his seer council deldar (Part I - 1850 Armored Zombie Apocalypse Chaos vs NEW Seer Council Deldar, Part II - 1850 Armored Chaoszilla vs Grant Theft Auto's NEW Seer Council Deldar) but that is because he is the one running this tournament.


So currently, I'm not sure what to bring. What do you guys think:


- Necrons. This is one of my more competitive armies and the army I won the Golden Throne GT with. It won't be an easy fight for them, especially against Janthkin's tyranids or Adam's Triptide Tau army.

- Necrons+Grey Knights. This is a list that I am considering, allying Draigowing with necron tesla-spam.

- Chaos+Chaos. The army that I've been playing the most recently....to mixed results. I have a lot of different builds here, ranging from FMC-spam to triple-heldrakes to my Zombie Apocalypse build to my Soul of LoC-N-Load.....you name it, I can probably bring it.

- Hive Fleet Pandora. Won Best Tyranids at the BAO with my bugs.

- Orks. Perhaps I should give my nob biker-ork boys army a try? This is the army I have played with the least but it could be fun....except probably against the Triptide Tau list or the triple-thunderfire marine army. The main downside, however, is that most of the models aren't painted.

- Surprise us. Who cares about winning? Try out some new, funky list.


So what do you think, guys? Thanks.


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Well I am hoping to be able to grab a spot for this little tournament. Even had a small little practice match with my list up at Frontline Gaming last weekend. Look forward to getting beaten around the tables with so many good players but still have a fun day of gaming.

You have an ork army?

Do Orks for the variety and no-one will see it coming :-P

Whatever you take, make sure to battle report it. You know we love them

You should put a poll up!

I vote for 'Cronic Draigo... I'm sure it's a combination that's common, but I've not seen it played. I'd really enjoy reading the reports...

edited for double post.

Hive Fleet Pandora. I haven't seen how your bugs fair vs some of the more recent codexes and I would love to.

By the way, that RTT sounds completely crazy! I wish we had more events like that over in the Southeast!

I say orks, for shock value.

Plus, it is a real test of skill to win with orks at a competitive event.

I will be there, btw

Triple dragon with crons is that way to go i think

I'd say either try the bugs out again, or go for Necrons + Grey Knights.

I'd say go with whatever you've been practicing the most. All your lists are strong enough so I think the one you have the most experience with has the best chance.

Barring that, I say take whatever army is the most complete painting-wise. A 30 player RTT with those names shouldn't be a grey plastic event.

 Panzer1944 wrote:
Well I am hoping to be able to grab a spot for this little tournament. Even had a small little practice match with my list up at Frontline Gaming last weekend. Look forward to getting beaten around the tables with so many good players but still have a fun day of gaming.

Come say hi! It's always cool to meet new, local dakkalites.

BTW, I will be at Frontline today to battle it out with Reece and his mighty, mighty Footdar (and I am going to mighty, mighty stompdar arses). HAHAHAHA....

 CaptainJay wrote:
You have an ork army?

Do Orks for the variety and no-one will see it coming :-P

Yup.

2K Double Feature! - 2 Ork Battles - vs Draigowing & vs Fateweaver Daemons

2K Horde Orks w/Nob Bikers vs Tesla Necrons

The only problem is, it isn't painted yet and I am out-of-practice with them.

 DexKivuli wrote:
You should put a poll up!

I vote for 'Cronic Draigo... I'm sure it's a combination that's common, but I've not seen it played. I'd really enjoy reading the reports...

Gonna save the poll for the tournament results instead.

I like the GK+Necron combo, but I'm having a hard time trying to cram everything I want into 1750.

However, I will most likely be taking that list to a 2K tournament in August.

 jifel wrote:
Hive Fleet Pandora. I haven't seen how your bugs fair vs some of the more recent codexes and I would love to.

By the way, that RTT sounds completely crazy! I wish we had more events like that over in the Southeast!

I kind of want to give my other armies who haven't seen a tournament yet a try.

But you never know....

 ImotekhTheStormlord wrote:
I say orks, for shock value.

Plus, it is a real test of skill to win with orks at a competitive event.

I will be there, btw

Of course....how could I forget.

Just added you to my list of "good" players in my intro.

 Valek wrote:
Triple dragon with crons is that way to go i think

I'm not so sure. I'm actually concerned about bringing a largely air-force army with Forgeworld being allowed.

However, triple-dragons with daemon FMC's.....that is something I can get behind.

 hyv3mynd wrote:
I'd say go with whatever you've been practicing the most. All your lists are strong enough so I think the one you have the most experience with has the best chance.

Barring that, I say take whatever army is the most complete painting-wise. A 30 player RTT with those names shouldn't be a grey plastic event.

Well, recently, I've been practicing the most with my Chaos-Chaos.....but I've also been losing the most with them as well. Lol.

Still, that won't deter me. They are probably the frontrunners right now in terms of who do I want to bring.

BTW, with the exception of the orks, they are all painted.

A driagowing is more like GK with cron allies. The one I run costs 955 points and I don't have staff or warding or psyammo in my list. I would hold that for the 2k match. Your going to be limited to a couple of ABS and 3 NS with warriors at 1750. I do like the combo... I would be more concerned about the triple tide if he was running the ion accelerator... getting past your 2+ puts your wing in a lot of danger. You can always run Nem force swords for the boost to the invul but even then its still only 4++. You "might" kill a tide in 2 turns if every single tesla weapon you have is turned on one.. and he gets some bad rolls.

I'm liking the LoC chaos list, you run, for this. I know the grim has to treat you right but getting 2++ rerollable saves allows you to get in just about any of these armies faces, and quickly. Using your FMC to deal with pesky 2+ save units and the flyers.

The chaos chaos with drakes is up there as well.

I say surprise us!

with forgeworld allowed it becomes another game.

Imperial Guard Wolves with sentry guns and/or Helios platforms.. ouch

I vote Sisters..

Well, I think you should give the pink demons a go! The concept is good.

Just had a 1750 battle against Reece's Footdar. This may be a preview of the tournament as we are both going and we may both be bringing these lists along.

Reece is undefeated so far with his Footdar. I, on the other hand, have lost a lot recently with my Chaos. However, I brought what might be one of the biggest challenges for Reece's footdar - triple heldrakes (it's also my very first time running them)!

I have 2 goals in the game. The first naturally is to be the one to give Reece's footdar their first lost. The 2nd is to be the first one to kill his dreaded Wraithknight.


Frontline videorep coming soon. Stay tuned.....

I know this thread isn't about this, but can you give out more of John's Triple Talon/Triple TFC list,
I'm curious as to what's all in it?

I also think you should roll with the Pink Daemons. It's not your normal run of the mill list that you see.

 Roci wrote:
A driagowing is more like GK with cron allies. The one I run costs 955 points and I don't have staff or warding or psyammo in my list. I would hold that for the 2k match. Your going to be limited to a couple of ABS and 3 NS with warriors at 1750. I do like the combo... I would be more concerned about the triple tide if he was running the ion accelerator... getting past your 2+ puts your wing in a lot of danger. You can always run Nem force swords for the boost to the invul but even then its still only 4++. You "might" kill a tide in 2 turns if every single tesla weapon you have is turned on one.. and he gets some bad rolls.

I'm liking the LoC chaos list, you run, for this. I know the grim has to treat you right but getting 2++ rerollable saves allows you to get in just about any of these armies faces, and quickly. Using your FMC to deal with pesky 2+ save units and the flyers.

The chaos chaos with drakes is up there as well.

I'm having problems building a 1750 Draigowing that I like. Tau is definitely a concern, though fortunately for the paladinstar, Adam runs HBC's on his 3 riptides (however, there will be other Tau players there and they run IA's).

Nemesis force swords only boost up the Invuln's in assault, and that is something I don't have to worry about against Tau. The force hammer will insta-kill anything on the Tau army.

The frontrunner will be my Chaos, though what exactly is the question. Triple heldrakes, triple soulgrinders, FMC-spam, Tzeentch Heralds, my Soul of LoC-N-Load....can't quite decide on which I want to bring.

 Riddick40k wrote:
I say surprise us!

It probably won't be much of a surprise, as I have run a lot of different Chaos builds already.

Or the surprise may just be my tournament-proven wraithwing necrons or my Hive Fleet Pandora tyranids.

I think I will keep the audience guessing.

 Valek wrote:
with forgeworld allowed it becomes another game.

Imperial Guard Wolves with sentry guns and/or Helios platforms.. ouch

Yeah, John the Space Marine player with triple-TFC's and triple-talons is also running 4 Hyperios.

Then there's a Tau player bringing mainly Forgeworld Tau stuff.

I'm sure there's going to other Forgeworld surprises that may just make flyer armies a risky proposition (ahem....not that I care).

 Shandara wrote:
I vote Sisters..

Well, I think you should give the pink demons a go! The concept is good.

Sorry, don't own a sisters army....though my friend SabrX does.

However, the 50 Shades of Pink daemons is definitely one I am considering. I really like their shooting and it is my only list where I can take both the Grimoire and the Portaglyph other than FMC-spam.




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SnotRash wrote:
I know this thread isn't about this, but can you give out more of John's Triple Talon/Triple TFC list,
I'm curious as to what's all in it?

I also think you should roll with the Pink Daemons. It's not your normal run of the mill list that you see.

He is running Space Marines with Dark Angels allies and his list is prepared to take on the helturkeys.

He's running something like this:

Master of the Forge
DA Librarian - Lvl 2, Power Field Generator

2x10 Tact Squads
1x5 DA Tact Squad - Flakk Missiles

3x Storm Talons
4x Hyperios Launchers (DA)

3x Thunderfire Cannons
Vindicator (DA)

Aegis Defense Line w/Quad-guns


He may only have 3 troops but he can combat squad them for 5. Moreover, there will be 1 match with the Scouring and 1 match with Big Guns so he will have a lot of extra scoring units. He can also fortify up to 4 ruins for his guys, has decent anti-air and good anti-infantry. It's a solid list.

 jy2 wrote:
He's running something like this:

Master of the Forge
DA Librarian - Lvl 2, Power Field Generator

2x10 Tact Squads
1x5 DA Tact Squad - Flakk Missiles

3x Storm Talons
4x Hyperios Launchers (DA)

3x Thunderfire Cannons
Vindicator (DA)

Aegis Defense Line w/Quad-guns


He may only have 3 troops but he can combat squad them for 5. Moreover, there will be 1 match with the Scouring and 1 match with Big Guns so he will have a lot of extra scoring units. He can also fortify up to 4 ruins for his guys, has decent anti-air and good anti-infantry. It's a solid list.

thanks for the quick reply, I really appreciate it.
Good Luck

No prob.

I think Nurgle Marines/ Zombie stuff and Nurgle deamons w maybe plague drones would be very good.

It is resillient and pumps out good damage.

 Valek wrote:
I think Nurgle Marines/ Zombie stuff and Nurgle deamons w maybe plague drones would be very good.

It is resillient and pumps out good damage.

It may be able to take a smaller tournament, but it won't win against this all-star cast of players. It's got poor shooting, below-average assault and piss-poor mobility. Resiliency is its biggest strength but against the likes of Tau and triple-TFC's which can ignore cover, not to mention potentially the psychic power Terrify from psychic-heavy armies, and even its resiliency is questionable. BTW, my zombie list won't have much plague units. Rather, it'll have to rely on heldrakes and oblits to shoulder most of the offensive burden.

But it would be funny if I do well with them.

Space Wolves or Orks!

If you want to be competitive I would avoid the army you haven't played in a while (orks) because I'd imagine it would be very easy to make silly mistakes with them and then you'd be frustrated with yourself. I'd also avoid the chaos+chaos simply due to the fact that you said it didn't have a great track record.

I think I'll vote Necrons+Grey Knights though I think if you made a tau+demons list it would be hilarious.

Tau+daemons....hmmmm. I could probably do that, though if they are desperate allies, I probably wouldn't want too.

I actually have my friend's Tau with me. However, I don't have any riptides, which is what I would want to run if I were to take Tau allies.

I would say Cron/tau if you had access to the tides. I'm working on that as my next little project. It will require the tides though...

See you tomorrow, Jim! If I had my Warp Spiders painted I would bring the Footdar, but I think I will have to go Nids as they are fully painted with the units I want.

Going to be a tough tournament, and a lot of fun!

 Roci wrote:
I would say Cron/tau if you had access to the tides. I'm working on that as my next little project. It will require the tides though...

I like that teamwork!

3 Annihilation Barges
Flyer transports
Riptide
Missile-sides
Wraith counter-assault unit


I'm already drooling at the possiblities....but that will probably have to be a future project.

First new project I'm going to work on - Grey Knights + Eldar. Imagine 3 shunt dreadknights and a Wraith knight.

Better stop it now before I slobber all over myself with drool.

 Reecius wrote:
See you tomorrow, Jim! If I had my Warp Spiders painted I would bring the Footdar, but I think I will have to go Nids as they are fully painted with the units I want.

Going to be a tough tournament, and a lot of fun!

Nice! Tyranids are going to be a mega-tough matchup for my psychic-heavy daemons.

Still can't decide between 3 helturkeys or 1 helturkey + 2 soulgrinders. Turkeys will be more effective against the MEQ builds. Grinders will be more effective against horde builds.

I think it's going to come down to a game day decision....

I'd like you to surprise us with something you haven't to (my knowledge) done before.

Necrorks!

Biker Nobz running up the field with a wraithwing. Necron bakery lacks models, send in the boyz! I mean who has the firepower to take out both a wraithwing and a biker nob unit before they get into to combat and still be in a position to handle all those flyers?

Alternatively you could go with the new up and coming ally army which is sweeping the nation, the unbeatable SistersNids!