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Sasori wrote: I'm hoping word of mouth and the international market carry this movie though.
Yeah, and that does happen from time to time. I mean, first weekend there was speculation that Avatar might be in trouble, because box office was high, but not high enough given the money spent on it. But then the box office numbers didn't just hold, they actually grew, and then held for a bizarrely long time. Word of mouth didn't just save that film, it turned it in to a monster hit.
But that was an exception, and like with everything, while it can happen, you don't want to be left hoping it happen for the unlikely. As a result, the rule of thumb is that when you see people saying that hopefully word of mouth or the international market will save the film, well there's trouble.
I need to check, but I think that's exactly how "The Matrix" turned out too...
I certainly don't remember seeing/hearing any aggressive advertising.
Don't forget the Riddick franchise that started with Pitch Black.......
"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
We just went to see it in Imax 3D, definitely the way to go.
I could see it getting a solid second wave of excitement when GW sues them for having the Kaiju share a Hive Mind and seek out new planets to consume.
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whembly wrote: I need to check, but I think that's exactly how "The Matrix" turned out too...
I certainly don't remember seeing/hearing any aggressive advertising.
The Matrix is one of the exceptions - basically one of the only films in recent memory that's made as much money after the first three weeks as it did in the first three. On big budget movies normally the money made after week three is a rounding error.
So, like I said above, it's certainly possible that Pacific Rim might be the exception, and might sustain its numbers. But it is hoping for something that is, historically, not very likely.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
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I took my wife thru the BRB for fantasy and 40k, the first thing she said was "AWESOME"... codex: Chaos Daemons Nurgle..... to all those who says God aint real....
AegisGrimm wrote: Don't forget the Riddick franchise that started with Pitch Black.......
That example doesn't really work. Pitch Black was a pretty small budget movie, with a final box office that was great relative to budget but nothing to cause. Pitch Black ended being made in to a franchise of sort because Vin Diesel became a bigger name, and so they went searching for a multiple film project for him.
Urban and the director have said they'd like to do more films, and there's hope as people realise the film found an audience. The money behind the project said a sequel was unlikely. Stranger things have happened, but they don't happen very often.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Corpsesarefun wrote: Just watched it, I thought it was very mediocre in pretty much every respect...
Though Ron Perlman had some awesome shoes.
Well Ron Perlman IS awesome. I liked him in Enemy At the Gates and caveman #2 in Quest for Fire.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Man I saw it last night with my family, as we were walking out of the theater we were talking about how great the subtle effects were. like
Spoiler:
how they constantly played with the lighting to evoke certain moods
and
Spoiler:
how the kid with the metal detector at the beginning is actually the kaiju scientist
Then on the car ride home we talked about who we might be drift compatible with. We all agreed my dad would make a bad pilot because he'd wind up chasing the rabbit like the girl, and my sister and I would likely be drift compatible because we've made a good tag team in fights before because we can practically predict the moves the other is about to make. On a side note did anyone notice that most of the pilots were somehow related to each other? I think the only ones that weren't were the second teams in the movie to pilot Gypsy Danger and Striker Eureka. (we're fairly certain Cherno Alpha's pilots are siblings)
Admiral Chester W Nimitz wrote:The war with Japan had been re-enacted in the game rooms here by so many people and in so many different ways, that nothing that happened during the war was a surprise.
sure, when the scientist first drifts you see him on the beach with as a child with who I assume is his dad when Gypsy goes down in the beginning. it's only there for a second, but I noticed it. also notice that the kid at the beginning when they find the old toy says with a dismissive tone "it's just an old robot toy". which is strange considering that Jagers were all the rage at that time. also the guy at the beginning has the same glasses as the scientist.
Admiral Chester W Nimitz wrote:The war with Japan had been re-enacted in the game rooms here by so many people and in so many different ways, that nothing that happened during the war was a surprise.
It was a great movie, nipper and I reckoned far superior to Transformers.
Charlie Hunnam was adequate, but he was more than made up for by Rinko Kichuki. Dialogue was just good enough, and personally I liked the generic aspect of a lot of the dialogue and plot, using lots of sci fi staples. But I didn't like the too-obvious constant references to other movies - geeky scientist out of Jurassic Park, nerdy Brit scientist out of Dr Strangelove, body-parts shopping straight out of Bladerunner. the little boss aliens really reminded me of other movies, too, maybe Independence day.
But that was more than made up for by the vision and imagination of the fights, that were prefectly paced. My only disappointment was that the trailers spoiled on of the best bits, when they brained the kaiju with an oil tanker.
As for physical fighting - well... maybe there is some justification. You can't set off nuclear weapons in built-up areas, and the physics of large creatures means being thrown on your back is very damaging, it's all about weight vs surface area.
That said, there were only 20 people in the cinema on Monday night. Even with strong international showings, it will struggle to make back its budget.
But definitely a future cult classic.
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Corpsesarefun wrote: So the kid of 11 grows up to be a scientist in his mid to late 20's in the 6 years between the beach scene and the rest of the film?
Corpsesarefun wrote: So the kid of 11 grows up to be a scientist in his mid to late 20's in the 6 years between the beach scene and the rest of the film?
I thought the same thing. What did I miss here?
6 seasons of always sunny?
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Even with some flaws, at least Pacific Rim wasn't like Revenge of the Fallen, where a hangar door in Washington DC leads to an aircraft graveyard in Arizona, complete with time of day change.........
"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
I thought it was pretty fekking awesome, and liked it about as much as an adult could. If I was 10-15 though holy crap I would have lost my mind...
Strong recommend to go see, don't analyze it too much though it is certainly not as non-sensical as most stuff in this type of genre is, but just take it in as an experience and you should enjoy it quite a bit... visually spectacular...
MajorTom11 wrote: I thought it was pretty fekking awesome, and liked it about as much as an adult could. If I was 10-15 though holy crap I would have lost my mind...
Strong recommend to go see, don't analyze it too much though it is certainly not as non-sensical as most stuff in this type of genre is, but just take it in as an experience and you should enjoy it quite a bit... visually spectacular...
Best part of Pacific Rim:
'Giant Robots are a stupid idea, lets build a giant costal wall instead'
*Cuts to a scene showing the monsters smashing through the wall with ease*
MetalOxide wrote: Best part of Pacific Rim:
'Giant Robots are a stupid idea, lets build a giant costal wall instead'
*Cuts to a scene showing the monsters smashing through the wall with ease*
I don't think the word smashing is even appropriate, it just kinda walked through the wall...
Frazzled wrote: I just don't think there is a major market for giant monster movies.
I think that's the crux of the issue. When I asked some of my colleagues if they wanted to go see it they unanimously declined. Mind, my colleagues are all huge nerds that geek out over anything Star Wars or Star Trek related, among other things. As a result I ended up going with a couple guys I used to canvass with who obsess over all things giant robot related.
The point being, of all the people I knew who wanted to see it, I was the only one who found the kaiju themselves at all interesting.
The problem with many of these blockbusters is not that they don't make money, but they don't make money vs. the gazillions spent on it (using Hollywood accounting, who knows how much was actually spent of course).
Its also a case of opportunity cost. Money spent on a profitable film may well have been better spent on established IP that is likely to be even more profitable.
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