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They've already made over half their money back on the movie itself ( not counting the other stuff ) & when the movie hits Japan it SHOULD make a profit. I love Legenday & their movies they pour thier heart & soul into & I hope this isn't a hit to the upcoming Godzilla movie (w/ a species of Godzillas)
Finally found my quote from a gym buddy born and raised in South Korea:
"It is the soldier, not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
"It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
"It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
"It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."
ThePrimordial wrote: They've already made over half their money back on the movie itself ( not counting the other stuff ) & when the movie hits Japan it SHOULD make a profit.
They haven't 'made back half their money'. The film has grossed about half of what it cost to make, of which the studio will only receive some of that back (and much less of the international gross). If the film grosses $180 million worldwide the studio will still be in the hole for somewhere in excess of $50 million.
Right now the only sensible conclusion is that returns for Pacific Rim don't look great. They'll get better when China and Japan open, but the odds of Japan dragging the film in to profitability are not high.
Seriously, I get that you love the movie and love the production company. But that love doesn't change numbers, and you don't get to change the world to what you'd like it to be.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
I finally have some time to sit and type out my issues and praises. Potential spoilers below (not really plot-revealing, so imo it's safe to read):
Spoiler:
1) As a Tau player, it annoys me that the Jaeger pilots are such valuable commodities for their battle experience, skill, drift compatibility, drift tolerance, etc, but they're housed in vulnerable areas inside the Jaegers. Why aren't they in heavily fortified bunkers deep within the units?
2) The WORLD ADMINISTRATION opts for a concrete and steel wall that takes a Cat 3 or 4 Kaiju one hour to bust through (in Sydney) over the very successful Jaeger program? What are these people smoking? Really poor writing there. What were they hoping to do if these walls even held? Just have a big party of Kaiju on the outside until they eventually just scaled the walls or busted through with 12 Kaiju running amok afterward hopelessly overpowering whatever defense was left?
3) So, we have every generation of Kaiju evolving and adapting, with thicker carapace/hides, heavier builds, organic weaponry, etc, etc, and we are still using uber-expensive, moderately effective ordnance on these things, then Gippo Danger comes in and offs three Kaiju with a bladed weapon. Why aren't swords and such standard-issue? They are clearly far more effective. Oh I know why they weren't used before, because A JAPANESE PERSON WASN'T INVOLVED IN THE CONSTRUCTION RIGHT?!
4) If these 'colonists' (such cliched writing there btw. Talk about a canned story) are so advanced and skilled biologists/scientists, why not just engineer a plague to wipe us out? Clearly they aren't out to harvest us, their goal is to exterminate our asses. Just design a disease and end us all in a few years.
The story was pretty weak, and my friend and I facepalmed several times at it. The young scientist Geiszler drove me absolutely bonkers with his high-pitched whiny little bitch voice, but I actually liked Gottlieb. I sort of felt like there were too many attempts at comic relief that just didn't work well. They killed off several of the best dang characters in the movie and they just shouldn't have done that because they had so much potential for further development. I did enjoy the film for what it was though - just a couple hours of mindless smash 'em up fun. The visuals were obviously the best part of the movie, really cool fight scenes and all, especially the penultimate encounter involving the 3 Jaegers and the double-event Kaiju.
Basically I give this movie a 6/10. Worth watching once.
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I thought the film was awesome, really enjoyed the show.
The only thing i wouldhave liked, and this is more personal taste would have been a few more Jaegers in use, even 2-3 more. Also to see the supposed 'elite' crews do somethig more than get a little show time of saying how awesome they are then being torn up so quickly.
I would also have liked some of the Jaegers to be equipped for ranged combat, and those more elite close combat guys shielding them.
though that just might be because i'd love to see a huge mech firefight in the city vs all those lovely creatures
PrehistoricUFO wrote:I finally have some time to sit and type out my issues and praises. Potential spoilers below (not really plot-revealing, so imo it's safe to read):
Spoiler:
PrehistoricUFO wrote:1) As a Tau player, it annoys me that the Jaeger pilots are such valuable commodities for their battle experience, skill, drift compatibility, drift tolerance, etc, but they're housed in vulnerable areas inside the Jaegers. Why aren't they in heavily fortified bunkers deep within the units?
The soft answer is that the writing requires there to be some element of danger or else we would completely lose interest (see: Superman fighting Zod). The more substantial answer, however, is that the Jaegers are meant to represent us by proxy: while giant steel robots, we need to associate with them. Hence, they are given athropomorphic elements such as names, unique "personalities" (as in, armaments, design and fighting styles) and are made to represent us not only as our last, best hope but as the physical manifestations of such in the form of our own simulacra. Thus, the elements of danger to us must also be represented in the Jaegers. When our heads come off, it's over. Such as it is with the Jaegers, lest we find fault in their ability to be our avatars and begin to dissociate from them.
PrehistoricUFO wrote:2) The WORLD ADMINISTRATION opts for a concrete and steel wall that takes a Cat 3 or 4 Kaiju one hour to bust through (in Sydney) over the very successful Jaeger program? What are these people smoking? Really poor writing there. What were they hoping to do if these walls even held? Just have a big party of Kaiju on the outside until they eventually just scaled the walls or busted through with 12 Kaiju running amok afterward hopelessly overpowering whatever defense was left?
There were many ham-fisted social commentaries present in the film, and the concept of being invaded by foreign hordes and abandoning ideas that might work (and may have in the past) in favour of simply building an ineffective wall to keep them out is not the least on-the-nose of those commentaries. While this is not a defense of the writing quality, it is a contextual explanation for the actual defense of the writing: it is a very basic, very easy-to-understand idea that can be translated into other languages for a world market with little difficulty. It's much harder to write a story that comes up with more complex political motivations for scrapping the Jaeger program because of the need to translate the writing to other languages. The more complex the exposition (or worse: subtext!) is, the more likely it will be lost in translation.
However, even from an artistic standpoint, the wall was meant to be a hypocritical gesture of hubris, in the belief that the wall would work where the Jaegers failed (also due to hubris).
PrehistoricUFO wrote:3) So, we have every generation of Kaiju evolving and adapting, with thicker carapace/hides, heavier builds, organic weaponry, etc, etc, and we are still using uber-expensive, moderately effective ordnance on these things, then Gippo Danger comes in and offs three Kaiju with a bladed weapon. Why aren't swords and such standard-issue? They are clearly far more effective. Oh I know why they weren't used before, because A JAPANESE PERSON WASN'T INVOLVED IN THE CONSTRUCTION RIGHT?!
Yeah, this part bothere me, too. I understand that it may be a nod to old anime such as Voltron, the original Gundam Wing or even Samurai Pizza Cats, wherein only at the last moment does the giant heroic robot pull out the kill-everything-instantly-sword and defeat its enemies. However, it was still an annoyance to see it, considering it did function as an "easy button", when the Jaeger spend so much time punching for little effect.
PrehistoricUFO wrote:4) If these 'colonists' (such cliched writing there btw. Talk about a canned story) are so advanced and skilled biologists/scientists, why not just engineer a plague to wipe us out? Clearly they aren't out to harvest us, their goal is to exterminate our asses. Just design a disease and end us all in a few years.
Do you know what the problem with plagues is? They're really hard to contain, and they tend to mutate and adapt. No advanced scientific species would be unaware of this facet. Further, if the Kaiju hadn't been here since the late Cretaceous, then it is unlikely that they would have been able to engineer a specialized plague for just us; they would likely be working with viruses that kill them, and perhaps kill us by coincidence. However, that completely defeats the purpose of a plague as you've suggested it.
PrehistoricUFO wrote:The story was pretty weak, and my friend and I facepalmed several times at it. The young scientist Geiszler drove me absolutely bonkers with his high-pitched whiny little bitch voice, but I actually liked Gottlieb. I sort of felt like there were too many attempts at comic relief that just didn't work well. They killed off several of the best dang characters in the movie and they just shouldn't have done that because they had so much potential for further development. I did enjoy the film for what it was though - just a couple hours of mindless smash 'em up fun. The visuals were obviously the best part of the movie, really cool fight scenes and all, especially the penultimate encounter involving the 3 Jaegers and the double-event Kaiju.
I wanted to cringe at some of the attempted comedic relief moments, but I tend to be lenient on films like this, which was clearly hoping for a massive box office in Asian countries as well as North America. As a result, the movie has to be geared towards those markets, which I'm sorry to say, often emply Three Stooges levels of humour to their lowest-common-demoninator. Perhaps that is a result of witty wordplay generally not translating well at all, or perhaps it is just a cultural compromise. In any event, it's quite common to see that kind of comedic relief writing appearing in films aimed at the global box office, and not just North America. So while I don't disagree with you on many things here, I feel context is a mitigating factor.
PrehistoricUFO wrote:Basically I give this movie a 6/10. Worth watching once.
I'll give it a solid 8 on its own; and bump that up to an 8.5 when adjusting for the global box office (because it's not fair to just a film that depends on a world audience against one that sometimes feels like it was written for me personally, like The Royal Tenenbaums, Fight Club or No Country For Old Men). Those latter films didn't need to make 180 million just to get their production costs even, and then likely another 180 million to recoup the media and advertising fees. Pacific Rim, however, does need to. And so it has to adapt slightly and be marketed for a global audience.
Also: compare this to any kaiju movie or even a disasterporn film, and you'll quickly find that it's probably the best one of either genres.
azazel the cat wrote: I'll give it a solid 8 on its own; and bump that up to an 8.5 when adjusting for the global box office (because it's not fair to just a film that depends on a world audience against one that sometimes feels like it was written for me personally, like The Royal Tenenbaums, Fight Club or No Country For Old Men). Those latter films didn't need to make 180 million just to get their production costs even, and then likely another 180 million to recoup the media and advertising fees. Pacific Rim, however, does need to. And so it has to adapt slightly and be marketed for a global audience.
Also: compare this to any kaiju movie or even a disasterporn film, and you'll quickly find that it's probably the best one of either genres.
Heh. First up, that list of films that were written for you personally is also a pretty fair selection of films that I think were written for me personally
Secondly, Fight Club cost a 100 million*. It needed to make massive worldwide bank to break even, and really, really didn't get it. When I was writing earlier about my favourite movies that lost lots of money, I thought about mentioning Fight Club.
*Basically Brad Pitt got slated to work on the film as a low budget piece, taking a massive cut from his normal rate of pay, at which point everyone else who worked on the film would take a similar cut... basically everyone making the film because it was great art, and also because being attached to great art is a huge career boost. Then Pitt said he wasn't taking a pay cut, so no-one else could be asked to take a cut, and the budget exploded to be an a list production. The FOX studio execs decided they'd greenlight it anyway despite knowing it was never going to make money, and then when the director David Fincher did his thing and production costs got even higher the execs took to hiding the final cost of the production Rupert Murdoch. The film did about as much business as a pscycho-drama filled with religious and anarchist philosophy can expect to do at the box office, and Rupert fired the gak out of everyone involved in greenlighting the project. But it's still a great movie.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
With the exception of No Country For Old Men (thanks to its Oscar hype), all the films I listed bombed at the box office. However, the points still stands that they didn't need to make Batman-levels of money. Even Fight Club, whose budget ballooned, still didn't need to make all that much in order to turn a profit (comparatively). Pacific Rim, however, is closer to the Avatar levels of return required. Hence, the borderline-slapstick humour and pedestrian symbolism.
Keep in in mind that in Japan, slapstick is still by far the most popular form of comedy.
As for the movie, yeah, most of the story elements could have been completely removed and it wouldn't have changed the movie.
The mis-use of equipment was annoying. (how about softening up targets before engaging in close combat?)
Something else that I find EXTREMELY annoying in almost any type of disaster/monster movie or whatever... Why are jet fighters/bombers always flying within 20 meters of the enemy to fire cannons with ranges of up to 5km and missiles with ranges of over 10km? There would never have lost a plane to these things if there was an actual pilot in there.
As usual, the military was wholly mis-represented like in every disaster movie.
With all that said, non of those issues impacted my actual enjoyment of the movie. I just hope it opens the door for more big budget mecha movies. I want a mechwarrior/battletech or Armored Core live action movie, now.
azazel the cat wrote: Mise-en-scene. Because actual jets fire at tiny specks on their radar from many kilometers away; and this does not make for an exciting-looking scene.
It does make for an immersion breaking intro to your movie though. Besides, I enjoy seeing missiles smacking into the target at range more then pilots flying like they are playing BF3.
Also, one more thing I don't get about the movie.
The mark 3 was at least 5 years old in this movie, the original Mark 3 had a very potent plasma cannon which was apparently developed within a couple of years of the first invasion.
Would it really have been so hard to start mounting those things on the walls, tanks, planes, whatever. The things proved themselves to be extremely effective at killing Kaiju, how about using them more.
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I don't remember see a single pilot in Pacific Rim attempt to turn during takeoff and crash into the ground sideways moments later.
I think you're thinking of WWI-era dogfights; not Battlefield.
I assumed the plasma cannon was a relatively short-range weapon, considering it was only ever used whilst grappling with the Kaiju... akin to using an acetylene torch in a clinch.
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Rented Tritium wrote: I want to point out again that Hellboy 1 only made 1/3 of its budget on opening weekend.
There is an awful lot of "will not" and "can not" being tossed around here for something that isn't remotely set in stone yet.
Hellboy cost a third of what Pacific Rim cost. At $60 million you can save your bottom line with a really strong DVD audience. That's not as much of an option for a $180 million movie.
Have you read anything about Hollywood accounting for things like this?
It's a bit... weird.
I've read a lot about Hollywood accounting, and talked about it a bit on this very site. And while there's plenty of Hollywood shenanigans out there, it isn't enough to just assume its the case for any given movie. There actually has to be evidence of it. So, with Harry Potter, when the first film was reported to have lost money there's reason to be suspicious, and when we found out the stars had net points, not gross points, well then we know Hollywood accounting is trying to screw the stars out of money. But here we've got a mega-budget effects film with a budget entirely in line with what those kinds of movies cost (actually a bit lower than Battleship or Transformers III). It's just that the box office isn't what a film on that kind of budget could expect to make back.
I..er..agree...with Sebster. I think I have to go lie down.
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ThePrimordial wrote: They've already made over half their money back on the movie itself ( not counting the other stuff ) & when the movie hits Japan it SHOULD make a profit. I love Legenday & their movies they pour thier heart & soul into & I hope this isn't a hit to the upcoming Godzilla movie (w/ a species of Godzillas)
No. It cost $180mm to make and $175mm to market. If you're interested, go to the movie. Enjoy the movie. Rent the movie. But there's no way it makes enough money to have a sequel unless its some direct to video horror. Thats ok. The best movies should not have sequels OR REMAKES!!!!
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azazel the cat wrote: Mise-en-scene. Because actual jets fire at tiny specks on their radar from many kilometers away; and this does not make for an exciting-looking scene.
In contrast Spielberg did an excellent version of this. The main character sees potential bad news over the hill, then BOOM BOOM BOOM missiles blow the crap out of something and aircraft blast past at really high speed followed by whoosh whoosh and multiple helicopters coming in slower shooting at the same something.
Cloverfield also did a nice bomber strike (strangely with a B2).
Of course thats my problem with these scenarios. We have nukes and bunker busters, but a giant vulnerable robot can punch something to death? Ok... (thats not going to stop me from renting it based on the reviews but I wouldn't otherwise see it).
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Would it really have been so hard to start mounting those things on the walls, tanks, planes, whatever. The things proved themselves to be extremely effective at killing Kaiju, how about using them more.
The plasma cannon needed to charge up for a good number of seconds, despite being hooked directly to a nuclear power plant. I think it's safe to say it needs a completely silly amount of power to fire, which complicates things and provides a handwave.
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No its doesn't actually. You shouldn't put a weapon in punching distance of a giant monster then no? Put it on a cruiser or a submarine or a 747.
Probably shouldn't argue this too much though because its the mega shark being jumped over that can't be explained away. Better to go "ew did you see hwo he punched that monster RIGHT IN THE FACE!!!" excellent.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Frazzled wrote: No its doesn't actually. You shouldn't put a weapon in punching distance of a giant monster then no? Put it on a cruiser or a submarine or a 747.
Probably shouldn't argue this too much though because its the mega shark being jumped over that can't be explained away. Better to go "ew did you see hwo he punched that monster RIGHT IN THE FACE!!!" excellent.
I think you should test this theory with some GI-joe vehicles and a bath tub to see how effective tiny machines are vs giant people
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Frazzled wrote: No its doesn't actually. You shouldn't put a weapon in punching distance of a giant monster then no? Put it on a cruiser or a submarine or a 747.
Probably shouldn't argue this too much though because its the mega shark being jumped over that can't be explained away. Better to go "ew did you see hwo he punched that monster RIGHT IN THE FACE!!!" excellent.
I think you should test this theory with some GI-joe vehicles and a bath tub to see how effective tiny machines are vs giant people
Wait you think I haven't? The worst giant monster born is a yellow rubber ducky! "OH NO ITS DUCKASAURUS!!!""
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Rented Tritium wrote: I mean, 100% realistically, they would have backed up the jagers with long range firepower and mines.
100$ realistically power increases with cross sectional area while weight increases with length/and cross section, if they were possible at all the jaegers would look like really, really stout dwarves.
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Rented Tritium wrote: I mean, 100% realistically, they would have backed up the jagers with long range firepower and mines.
100$ realistically power increases with cross sectional area while weight increases with length/and cross section, if they were possible at all the jaegers would look like really, really stout dwarves.
Yep, so we've clearly given up on "realistically" before the movie was made.
Frazzled wrote: No its doesn't actually. You shouldn't put a weapon in punching distance of a giant monster then no? Put it on a cruiser or a submarine or a 747.
Probably shouldn't argue this too much though because its the mega shark being jumped over that can't be explained away. Better to go "ew did you see hwo he punched that monster RIGHT IN THE FACE!!!" excellent.
I think you should test this theory with some GI-joe vehicles and a bath tub to see how effective tiny machines are vs giant people
Wait you think I haven't? The worst giant monster born is a yellow rubber ducky! "OH NO ITS DUCKASAURUS!!!""
Actually.... yeah a really large, self righting sea vehicle with a durable hull would be fantastic against the jaegers.
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Frazzled wrote: No its doesn't actually. You shouldn't put a weapon in punching distance of a giant monster then no? Put it on a cruiser or a submarine or a 747.
Probably shouldn't argue this too much though because its the mega shark being jumped over that can't be explained away. Better to go "ew did you see hwo he punched that monster RIGHT IN THE FACE!!!" excellent.
I think you should test this theory with some GI-joe vehicles and a bath tub to see how effective tiny machines are vs giant people
Wait you think I haven't? The worst giant monster born is a yellow rubber ducky! "OH NO ITS DUCKASAURUS!!!""
Actually.... yeah a really large, self righting sea vehicle with a durable hull would be fantastic against the jaegers.
I refuse to suspend disbelief in a movie about giant robots with missle powered fists fighting sea lizards from outer space
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For me it's not about suspending belief, obviously that is a given with these kinds of movies. I think just having to suspend belief doesn't mean you get to ignore common knowledge and simple tactics.
Sadly, hollywood always disagrees.
Oh, and as for the plasma cannon requiring a lot of power.... pretty sure it's a lot easier to get lots of power in a stationairy position instead of a moving unconnected vehicle.
I am still dissapointed by the lack of railgun in this movie.
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Rented Tritium wrote: I mean, 100% realistically, they would have backed up the jagers with long range firepower and mines.
100$ realistically power increases with cross sectional area while weight increases with length/and cross section, if they were possible at all the jaegers would look like really, really stout dwarves.
Megargants vs. giant monsters! Its Epic Orks vs. Nids!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Oh, and as for the plasma cannon requiring a lot of power.... pretty sure it's a lot easier to get lots of power in a stationairy position instead of a moving unconnected vehicle.
I think it would actually be harder to put guns that use that much power all along a wall. That means you have to be able to provide that much juice to any one of a hundred places along a stretch of wall on command. You'll need thousands of copies of some of those electrical components. The fact that the power plant is right there 20 feet from the gun on the jaeger is actually a huge design advantage vs the MASSIVE cabling project required to line a wall with them.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Think about the Mako cannon in FF7. That's the kind of cabling you would need and you'd have to put these guns all over the place to make them as effective as a single portable gun.
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hotsauceman1 wrote: Anyone else feel this was a giant allegory for immigration?
With the wall representing the wall they want to put up at the mexico border, The kaiju destructive immigrants and the robots outlaw patriots?
....no
Just no.
Kaiju Eiga, which Pacific Rim is an unashamed love letter to, has it's own allegorical purposes, but they have nothing to do with immigration. You want zombie movies, at the end of the hallway. For Kaiju Eiga, and especially the first Godzilla movie, you're looking at something a little bigger then immigrants, we're talking about the use of nuclear weapons, the terror of watching in horror, helpless as your home is destroyed by this force of nature... and again in the particular case of the first Godzilla film the Pacific Theater of WW2 is pretty much the film's story arc. There's more details to it, and plenty of interpretation, especially for Godzilla movies, so the allegory of Kaiju Eiga (particularly in the sense of Daikaiju, giant monsters) could be send to be dealing with massive forces beyond your control, destruction at incomprehensible levels, etc. Pacific Rim follows those allegories but adds the more modern trait of rebelling against such forces. (WE ARE CANCELING THE APOCALYPSE)
I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
Oh, and as for the plasma cannon requiring a lot of power.... pretty sure it's a lot easier to get lots of power in a stationairy position instead of a moving unconnected vehicle.
I think it would actually be harder to put guns that use that much power all along a wall. That means you have to be able to provide that much juice to any one of a hundred places along a stretch of wall on command. You'll need thousands of copies of some of those electrical components. The fact that the power plant is right there 20 feet from the gun on the jaeger is actually a huge design advantage vs the MASSIVE cabling project required to line a wall with them.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Think about the Mako cannon in FF7. That's the kind of cabling you would need and you'd have to put these guns all over the place to make them as effective as a single portable gun.
I have no clue what a Mako cannon is.
Also, I doubt cabling would be a massive issue when they are capable of making something like a jaeger. Also, they wouldn't have to place that many, you could just go for a few massive ones to extend their range, powerplant could be as big as they want.
Oh, and as for the plasma cannon requiring a lot of power.... pretty sure it's a lot easier to get lots of power in a stationairy position instead of a moving unconnected vehicle.
I think it would actually be harder to put guns that use that much power all along a wall. That means you have to be able to provide that much juice to any one of a hundred places along a stretch of wall on command. You'll need thousands of copies of some of those electrical components. The fact that the power plant is right there 20 feet from the gun on the jaeger is actually a huge design advantage vs the MASSIVE cabling project required to line a wall with them.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Think about the Mako cannon in FF7. That's the kind of cabling you would need and you'd have to put these guns all over the place to make them as effective as a single portable gun.
I have no clue what a Mako cannon is.
Also, I doubt cabling would be a massive issue when they are capable of making something like a jaeger. Also, they wouldn't have to place that many, you could just go for a few massive ones to extend their range, powerplant could be as big as they want.
Also, I doubt cabling would be a massive issue when they are capable of making something like a jaeger. Also, they wouldn't have to place that many, you could just go for a few massive ones to extend their range, powerplant could be as big as they want.
Because the solution to everything is just adding more powerplants, this is why we're launching spacecraft with ion lasers now
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