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I hadn't considered that was intentional, for the Executive Decision example.

 Ouze wrote:
I hadn't considered that was intentional, for the Executive Decision example.

The idea is that you kill off someone the audience would never expect to be killed off so that it seems like anyone could be a legitimate target and no character is safe.

Ahtman wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I hadn't considered that was intentional, for the Executive Decision example.

The idea is that you kill off someone the audience would never expect to be killed off so that it seems like anyone could be a legitimate target and no character is safe.

^ Yup. This.

Barrymore was marketed heavily in Scream, too. I think she even has the largest portrait on the box art.

Wow! It's kick arse overseas!
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=pacificrim.htm
= Worldwide: $295,629,531

Saw it. Regretted it. Wish I hadn't spent 11 bucks on it.

The PPDC thanks you for your contribution to the effort. :-D

 whembly wrote:
Wow! It's kick arse overseas!
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=pacificrim.htm
= Worldwide: $295,629,531

Which means it STILL hasn't broken even.

It probably has by now. Obviously they're never going to release how much they spent on marketing, but it's probably around $70-80 million. If so, it's already started to make money, and that's before merchandising and dvd\blu-ray sales.

My wife wanted to see it with her brother, so I wound up seeing it a second time. The second time, we saw it at a 3D IMAX. I usually eschew 3D movies but in this case it was very solid - not dark and blurry as the conversion process can sometimes do. I thought it was very solid for what it was, but I was inclined to like it already.

 Ouze wrote:
It probably has by now. Obviously they're never going to release how much they spent on marketing, but it's probably around $70-80 million. If so, it's already started to make money, and that's before merchandising and dvd\blu-ray sales.

Yup... the Asian market is going to eat them up like cray-cray.

Frazz... the distributor has already been on record for sequel.

 Frazzled wrote:
Which means it STILL hasn't broken even.

Good thing it just opened in 3 more markets, had a record opening in China, and apparently has 2 more to go.

I mean, a sequel has apparently already been green lit after that middle one (45m in a week or something like that?) so it's all academic, but even if it comes close after the international box office, presumably it'll turn a tidy profit after merchandise (particularly dvd sales), so yay international markets!

Edit: apparently I should read further past a post I intend to respond to. Basically "what Ouze said +1".

Pacific Rim was subpar. 6.78 out of 10.

[pedantic]Subpar would be below 5.[/Pedantic]

>.>

 Forar wrote:
[pedantic]Subpar would be below 5.[/pedantic]

>.>

Fixed.

Skrew you! ._.

I'll just leave this here, now that people have had a chance to see it.

Nice, but the nuke question has been answered. The real question is why they don't just make rocket-swords for use by A-10s.

 Ouze wrote:
It probably has by now. Obviously they're never going to release how much they spent on marketing, but it's probably around $70-80 million. If so, it's already started to make money, and that's before merchandising and dvd\blu-ray sales.

No, because the box office isn't what the studio gets. The theatre keeps a third on domestic first weekend receipts, and every week after that the theatre gets more. On international receipts the studio gets even less back - and in Asian markets the deal is even worse.

Studios are getting better at factoring in DVD sales, but outside of a very few movies they don't make a difference (typically if ends up profitable at the box office then DVDs make it even more profitable, but if the box office didn't do the job then it likely won't be saved by DVD, though there are some noted exceptions). The real big deal, though, is merchandising. If they can sell toys of the robots and monsters, well then that changes everything.

It sounds like P-Rimmy is doing dynamite on the merchandising side. The books (art book, prequel and novelization) seem to be doing very well compared to similar tie-ins for other big movies this year. The toys are all being handled by NECA, and badly, so who knows how that is going to end up.

Also, I'm pretty sure your reasoning on Box Office vs DVD sales has been obsolete for 6 or 7 years by now. Even Dredd is likely to get a prequel due to DVD sales, and the merchandising for that movie can't be much.

 sebster wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
It probably has by now. Obviously they're never going to release how much they spent on marketing, but it's probably around $70-80 million. If so, it's already started to make money, and that's before merchandising and dvd\blu-ray sales.

No, because the box office isn't what the studio gets. The theatre keeps a third on domestic first weekend receipts, and every week after that the theatre gets more. On international receipts the studio gets even less back - and in Asian markets the deal is even worse.

Seb, that may be true in AU, but not in US... depending on the flick, the theatre keeps VERY LITTLE of the first week or two of the box office. That's why the box of candy/popcorn/soda are insanely expensive. It's not even close to a 3rd of the receipts.

That's why there's so much importance to the "Opening Weekend" figures for the studios.

Disclaimer, I used to work for a large movie theater chain.

 whembly wrote:

 sebster wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
It probably has by now. Obviously they're never going to release how much they spent on marketing, but it's probably around $70-80 million. If so, it's already started to make money, and that's before merchandising and dvd\blu-ray sales.

No, because the box office isn't what the studio gets. The theatre keeps a third on domestic first weekend receipts, and every week after that the theatre gets more. On international receipts the studio gets even less back - and in Asian markets the deal is even worse.

Seb, that may be true in AU, but not in US... depending on the flick, the theatre keeps VERY LITTLE of the first week or two of the box office. That's why the box of candy/popcorn/soda are insanely expensive. It's not even close to a 3rd of the receipts.

That's why there's so much importance to the "Opening Weekend" figures for the studios.

Disclaimer, I used to work for a large movie theater chain.

Yeah, I'd be suprised if they even got 10% of the ticket price. That's why I have to pay 2.50 for a seven up and 3.50 for some nachos (WITHOUT fething CHEESE).

On that note, feth cinema food.

Pretty sure everyone - even the 10 year olds in the theater - just wondered why swords weren't standard issue after seeing Danger kill with one so easily. The world's forces should have indeed been camping around the rift for years with tons of Jaegers. It would have saved the world countless billions in repairs which they could have pumped into making more robots and research to penetrate the rift (which some scrub scientist did with a homemade interface unit) and just wtfpwned from the beginning.

The sword wasn't in the original version of Gypsy Danger, and I got the impression the original driver was unaware of it. You also have the same reason why Volton never just used the sword at the beginning of the fight as well I suppose. It is a trope of giant monster movies/anime.

Finally rented.
*Acting was crap.
*Story was pretty bad.
*Effects were high end but didn't do anything for me. Felt like jets hitting them with really big bombs would have been much better then relatively suits with guys punching them.

Kept thinking "man a Warlord Titan would smear these guys" I'm 40K jaded.

There should really be a wh40k Kaiju film. I mean, the setting is already one.

 Frazzled wrote:
Felt like jets hitting them with really big bombs would have been much better then relatively suits with guys punching them.

If you rent it again pay attention, as it is explained why that is a bad option.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
There should really be a wh40k Kaiju film. I mean, the setting is already one.

Eldar Phantom Titans vs. Hierophants. Tapdancing psycannon lovemachines vs. giant bug ya hoo.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Felt like jets hitting them with really big bombs would have been much better then relatively suits with guys punching them.

If you rent it again pay attention, as it is explained why that is a bad option.

They did eventually kill the first one (and presumably several of those that followed) conventionally and with nuclear arms, it's just incredibly wasteful, takes forever and does little to stop them rampaging through several cities with a five figure death toll. For those that enjoy (or at least don't mind) fleshed out setting info from other sources, according to the novel and some other stuff, the first one ("Tresspasser/Axe Head") was nuked three times before it finally died.

Anyway, of course it's silly. The entire premise stems from incredibly silly movies and animated series. The concept falls on its face if it even glances at real physics askew.

But man.... "have you hit it with a boat? No? Find a boat. Yes? Find a bigger boat." needs to be part of Jaeger pilot SOP.

Definitely a sequel, which is a little surprising to me since it took home so little domestically. I say this as someone who liked it: I wouldn't have voted to greenlight a sequel.

Per Wiki it made $400mm worldwide.

To be clear it said they are writing one, not that one had been greenlit.

Watched it a few times now, brilliant film! Falls on its arse if you take it seriously, but anyone expecting a Martin Scorsese film probably should not have gone to watch it really!