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Imperial guard are nothing without some variant of Leman Russ

Spetulhu wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
That's assuming there's space to put a tank inside the defensive perimiter to start with.

Well, from reading some German texts they fooled the Red Army in some places by having a civilian tractor push a disabled tank around. A tank, even in limited space, is a major threat. It has a huge gun and is almost invulnerable to standard infantry weapons. Truly, it's a major threat. At least to people who don't blow them up as a part of their business.

The thing about most tanks is that they've got turret mounted weapons, though. The Vindicator doesn't. It's more or less a self-propelled gun. It's probably an excellent piece of hardware for destroying walls and fortifications, but not for defending them.

Trygon or a hive tyrant

I don't play Tyranids, but no Swarm is right without a Carnifex. Every nid swarm needs a Carnifex.

For Orks, Looted tanks are a MUST! Looted anything really.

Blood Angels Sanguinary Priests are a must for me.
Vanilla Marines need a Techmarine
Dark Angels need Chaplains
Templars aren't compkete without a Land Raider Crusader

And if I ever start playing Grey Knights, I will NEED the guy with a ForceSword impaling a Daemon's head.

And nobody can field a fluffy Chaos army without one Spawn model. (Just in case your Lord turns into one!)

For Eldar, at least 2 squads of different Aspect Warriors. If you play any craftworld other than Ulthwe and you include no aspects, you're doing it wrong.

I never use my daemons without some form of flying monstrous creature (usually a bloodthirster or two).

 Brotheralexos wrote:
I don't play Tyranids, but no Swarm is right without a Carnifex. Every nid swarm needs a carnifex

once I would have agreed with you but now they suck so much they are only playable in one fashion and that is still terrible...

My IG are nothing without having at least 2 platoons. Always 2 platoons of 35 men. Never leave home without them. Everything else is optional.

BaconUprising wrote:

 Brotheralexos wrote:
I don't play Tyranids, but no Swarm is right without a Carnifex. Every nid swarm needs a carnifex

once I would have agreed with you but now they suck so much they are only playable in one fashion and that is still terrible...

Podded Dakkafexes are far from terrible. Right now, they seem to see more use than Trygons as well.

Personally, I'm all for large centerpeices. An army is complete when you've decided 'I've had enough of this small gak, I'm adding a Warhound'.

My Raptors never go to battle without 3 rapier laser destroyers. And for all my armies, FW models is required.

My Imperial Guard army is not without at least one Leman Russ.

My Space Marine army needs drop pods. No exception.

My Sisters aren't complete without Seraphim.

shock attack gun.

One of the first models I ever bought.

Cause removing terminators from play is freaking awesome.

There are just so many options, I don't know where to start!

For my orks, I am tempted to say it isn't complete until there is something looted from each faction out there. Preferably, you loot each one after a victory against it's corresponding army. Until you achieve that, all the SAG, meks, and stompas on Armageddon won't complete the army!

SM aren't complete until you have the Thunderfire canon. It is cheap as sin, but incredibly useful. I cannot think of a single model I have included in more games beyond ork boyz.

IG require a LRBT. Period.

-cgmckenzie

I'd say my DE are not complete without a unit of Incubi as well as a couple of Scourges, while my Craftworld Eldar definitely needs Dark Reapers with Tempest Launcher Exarch.

I can't bring my Necrons without taking my Deathmarks. They're such a hard-hitting unit that are incredibly dangerous and effective against just about anything I've put them up against.

 Marzillius wrote:
For Eldar, at least 2 squads of different Aspect Warriors. If you play any craftworld other than Ulthwe and you include no aspects, you're doing it wrong.

Iyanden ghosts and SaimHann wildriders disagree with you.

It's jump pack Death Company for me. They ALWAYS come along for the ride.

Necrons need Ghost Arks.

A warhost without Dire Avengers is a warhost with no heart.

Yes, I've fielded plenty of 'heartless' warhosts in my time.

For my tyranids it's the hive tyrant with wings. It is a fantastically good looking model and just completes the look of the army on the table.

My Guard need at least three Russes on the table. Preferably more.

Space Marines need Dreads and/ or Terminators. As many or as few as you want, but between them there's a 0-1 limit.

Necrons need a monolith.

And Chaos Marines should always bring a Sorceror for the ride.

Flyrants.

For my BA its now become assault marines, a Baal and a Vindicator. Last two probably are more left-field choices but they work for me.

For my IG (who haven't got out much for some reason!) its as many Chimera's as I have squads and as many Russes as I can get into the allowed point limit.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Spetulhu wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
That's assuming there's space to put a tank inside the defensive perimiter to start with.

Well, from reading some German texts they fooled the Red Army in some places by having a civilian tractor push a disabled tank around. A tank, even in limited space, is a major threat. It has a huge gun and is almost invulnerable to standard infantry weapons. Truly, it's a major threat. At least to people who don't blow them up as a part of their business.

The thing about most tanks is that they've got turret mounted weapons, though. The Vindicator doesn't. It's more or less a self-propelled gun. It's probably an excellent piece of hardware for destroying walls and fortifications, but not for defending them.

Tank destroyers traditionally don't have turrets but were always defensively minded.

Plasma weaponry. My Dark Angels don't leave home w/o some sort of plasma weapon (w/ the complimenting red dice).

It will be a cold day in Hell before I field my Necrons without:

- Annihilation Barges

- Mind-shackle Scarabs

- Resurrection Orbs

Eldar: Fire prism/Warp hunter

Black Templars: LRC

Tyranids: 60-90 Termagants

Grey Knights: 20 troop GKTs

Eldar: 3 Serpents (I only have 2 aspects if you count Hunters)

Sternguard. Always.

I couldn't fathom fielding my Iron Warriors without at least one Vindicator, and no IG army is a proper army without a Leman Russ in my eyes.