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Geeze, this is ugly

 helgrenze wrote:
Annnnd Philly is up by 3 TDs..... before the end of thhe First Quarter.

Eagles are looking pretty good!

It's hilarious to me how much grief josh mcdaniels took for trading away jay cutler at the time. What a genius he turned out to be lol.

These are the guys who lost to the frigging Vikings?

So I wonder what coaches are done after the year and who's gonna win coach of the year. I'd say lovie to the titans, and Rex Ryan to the lions. IMO these would be great coaching moves for their respective franchises. If Jim Schwartz or lovie smith are back next year I'd be astonished. I think Ryan could do WONDERS for that Detroit defense and lovie coaching up the young guys in tenn would be good for them I think.

As to coach of the year Bruce Arians, Bill Bellichik, Ron Rivera, and possibly mike Tomlin are in the conversation. My front runner if they make the playoffs is Bruce but Bellichik is havig a helluva season as well.

Also clearly chip kelly is the revolution ;p. and if it wasn't for paymeaton manning setting the TD record I'd vote for Foles as MVP. He has 25 TD's and 2 ints in 10 games. If you push that out to a whole season it's like 42 TD's and 4 picks...

Good god, I didn't think that the Bears run defense was that atrocious...

A poor day for the NFC North in general. At least the Packers played a good game.

How are the Steelers still alive? HOW?

Ah well, will be even sweeter if we get in on the last day that way . Doubt it, though... Flacco didn't throw well with the knee brace in the first half and we looked rather awful. Maybe it will fire them up for next week?

The Ravens have tiebreakers over the Dolphins or the Chargers alone, but if we all win next week, 3way ties have a different tiebreaker and the Dolphins would be in.

Cincy will be hyped to beat us to improve their seed, meanwhile Chargers face Chiefs who have nothing riding on this game at all.

 Alfndrate wrote:
Good god, I didn't think that the Bears run defense was that atrocious...

That was the single most disgusting display of professional football I have ever seen.

I mean, for feths sake, the Bears got beaten (repeatedly) by Wing-T; an offense every high school football player has faced.

That was the worst Bears performance I can recall. To make matters worse, I benched the Eagles D in my fanasty superbowl, because the Bears had been putting up big numbers. I'd have won by now if I played them.

 RiTides wrote:
How are the Steelers still alive? HOW?

Ah well, will be even sweeter if we get in on the last day that way . Doubt it, though... Flacco didn't throw well with the knee brace in the first half and we looked rather awful. Maybe it will fire them up for next week?

The Ravens have tiebreakers over the Dolphins or the Chargers alone, but if we all win next week, 3way ties have a different tiebreaker and the Dolphins would be in.

Cincy will be hyped to beat us to improve their seed, meanwhile Chargers face Chiefs who have nothing riding on this game at all.

Good quarterbacking and going 7-4 since the horrific start is how. They were tantalizingly close to being in the mix for the division title -- consider Brown's foot out of bounds vs. the Dolphins, Suisham missing two easy FGs vs. the Raiders, the very close 2nd game vs the Ravens.

Don't get me wrong -- it certainly isn't a good Steelers team, and the defense mostly stinks. But it's a competitive team that's improved and stuck around. The Ravens and most of the AFC don't have any room to talk. It's a bad conference this year.

Yah it's the top 4 in the AFC and then everyone else. This year has been crazy frustrating for a lot of teams with injuries across the NFL. A lot of stars missing is causing the teams with any sort grit to stay afloat longer.

Even if the bears beat the packers they will be making a first round exit to the left.


That defense couldn't stop a high school team.

It's true. Having half your starters out with injuries hurts, especially when its all your depth at one position, and half of those out were pro-bowlers.

Still, I can't help but think, where is the tackling. I've seen other teams do it. I couldn't even begin to count the number of missed tackles yesterday. Guys were in position to make plays, and simply didn't make them. Absolutely disgraceful.

Part of me hopes that they don't make the playoffs, because then I don't have to pay to watch them lose to the 49ers or Saints.

Chancetragedy wrote:
So I wonder what coaches are done after the year and who's gonna win coach of the year. I'd say lovie to the titans, and Rex Ryan to the lions. IMO these would be great coaching moves for their respective franchises. If Jim Schwartz or lovie smith are back next year I'd be astonished. I think Ryan could do WONDERS for that Detroit defense and lovie coaching up the young guys in tenn would be good for them I think.

Rumor has it that if Dallas misses the playoffs Jerry may be dropping the F(ired) Bomb on Garret.

 helgrenze wrote:

Rumor has it that if Dallas misses the playoffs Jerry may be dropping the F(ired) Bomb on Garret.

Really?? I mean, if you watch Garret's post game press conferences, he always has a lot of "positives" to build on

 Redbeard wrote:
It's true. Having half your starters out with injuries hurts, especially when its all your depth at one position, and half of those out were pro-bowlers.

Still, I can't help but think, where is the tackling. I've seen other teams do it. I couldn't even begin to count the number of missed tackles yesterday. Guys were in position to make plays, and simply didn't make them. Absolutely disgraceful.

Part of me hopes that they don't make the playoffs, because then I don't have to pay to watch them lose to the 49ers or Saints.

I probably won't even watch the green bay game as both the teams will make a first round exit

Sad Bears

 helgrenze wrote:

Chancetragedy wrote:
So I wonder what coaches are done after the year and who's gonna win coach of the year. I'd say lovie to the titans, and Rex Ryan to the lions. IMO these would be great coaching moves for their respective franchises. If Jim Schwartz or lovie smith are back next year I'd be astonished. I think Ryan could do WONDERS for that Detroit defense and lovie coaching up the young guys in tenn would be good for them I think.

Rumor has it that if Dallas misses the playoffs Jerry may be dropping the F(ired) Bomb on Garret.

Didn't jerry already publicly say Garrett wasn't going anywhere? That would be hilarious.

My list of coaches that should be fired is as follows Schwartz, lovie smith, Rex Ryan, Schiano, munchak(was he already fired?), Kubiak is gone already, and as weird as this one is with them as the 3rd seed is I think Marvin Lewis should be fired.

Edit:and every referee crew besides Steratore's need to be let go. I'm fricken sick of football becoming the new basketball with the amount of influence referee's have on games. Keep the flags in your pockets jerks.

Lovie's already gone Chance....


Personally I would love to see Rex Ryan as the Defensive co-ordinater in Chicago next year

Lol whoops when did that happen? I'm such a dummy sometimes ;

Lovie got turfed out last year
Marc Trestman replaced him

LOL trestman the CFL dude wtf haha I'm such an idiot haha.

New addition to my firing list... ME....

He was also under Gruden as the QB coach on the Raiders when Rich Gannon had that great year (2001?)

Hmm that's interesting. It totally makes sense with how good mccown played. Cutler is pretty set in his ways and just doesn't seem like he cares so it also makes sense trestman hasn't gotten to him. Isn't trestman super super smart? Like a lawyer or mathematician or something from a really prestigious school?

He was a lawyer

I thought he was a stock broker when he dropped out of coaching initially before heading to the Allouettes and revitalised Anthony Calvillo's career.
Actually in 95&96 he was the QB Coach/OC for the 49ers

Chancetragedy wrote:
Edit:and every referee crew besides Steratore's need to be let go. I'm fricken sick of football becoming the new basketball with the amount of influence referee's have on games. Keep the flags in your pockets jerks.

You are aware that not throwing flags can have as much, if not more, influence on a game than throwing them can, right? Should the refs allow the o-line to hold? Should d-backs be allowed to interfere with passes?


Trestman seems like a pretty good offensive coach - barring last night's game, the Bears offense has looked better than it has in all the time I've been really following them. I think they already passed several single-season records.

The defense looks a shambles, but as mentioned before, when more than half of your starters take season-long injuries, including most of your pro-bowlers, and all your depth at one position, you're going to suffer. I'd like to give Mel Tucker one more year as d-coordinator. The young talent (like Bostic) can only get better, and maybe we focus on the defensive side in this year's draft.

I would say keeping the flags in their pockets for a lot of Ticky tack stuff isn't influencing the game at all redbeard. Sure call the aggregious stuff as that's what they're their for. But when you have a game like yesterday's pats vs ravens game where there was a flag on what seemed like every other play in the first half most of which were very Ticky tacky it's going to far. When you have a game that had 17 penalties for almost 200 yards from a game that included a team that's near the top of I penalized teams in the league that's going to far. Teams can't get into rhythm and the game becomes almost unwatchable. And I know it's something that's not going to go away but it's just crazy infuriating, almost as much IMO as the NFL's crusade to reduce concussion which isn't actually reducing concussions and is causing more lower leg/knee injuries around the league...

 Redbeard wrote:

Chancetragedy wrote:
Edit:and every referee crew besides Steratore's need to be let go. I'm fricken sick of football becoming the new basketball with the amount of influence referee's have on games. Keep the flags in your pockets jerks.

You are aware that not throwing flags can have as much, if not more, influence on a game than throwing them can, right? Should the refs allow the o-line to hold? Should d-backs be allowed to interfere with passes?

It's really more a matter of "how much should they allow to go on" because, play by play, I personally was able to spot Arizona's O-line holding on EVERY SINGLE PLAY they had on Sunday. It stands to reason also that Seattle's O-line did much the same, but as that's my team, I didn't see it

On the whole though, I agree, the officiating seems quite a bit poorer this year. Some games it's quite clear and obvious where the officiating brought about the result, and some where its much less obvious to non-existent.


Also, never get rid of Ed Hochuli.... we need those arms on the field

I thought about eddy Hercules when I posted everyone but steratore's crew. Since I reserve the right to back track I agree never let go of Hocculi he's too much comic relief in his long winded explanations and his guns flexing all over the place.