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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 04:09:16
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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High-profile Twitter meltdowns are fairly common, but they don’t often result in the cancellation of entire projects.
But that’s exactly what happened over the weekend when Phil Fish, the mercurial creator of indie game sensation Fez, was so affected by an escalating series of tirades on Twitter that he declared he was quitting the industry and canceling development of Fez II.
The news came shortly after a massive Twitter fight with writer Marcus Beer, who took aim at Fish during a segment on GameTrailer's Invisible Walls. Beer lashed out at Fish and fellow indie designer Jonathan Blow for voicing objections to press inquiries about Microsoft's reversal on its Xbox One indie game self-publishing rules.
"Gents," he said. "You were the guys who did Indie Game: the Movie. And some of you looked relatively normal in it, one of you looked like a total tosspot in it. But you can't have it both ways. You're successful game designers — you're 'indie' game designers — hurrah, good for you, you f****** hipsters."
Beer's harsh comments struck a nerve with Fish, who demanded an apology via Twitter, getting progressively more upset as others replied.
The exchange ended with Fish announcing he was canceling the recently announced game, then locking his Twitter account. Since then, Fish’s development studio Polytron has posted this message to its fans:
"FEZ II is cancelled. i am done. i take the money and i run. this is as much as i can stomach. this is isn’t the result of any one thing, but the end of a long, bloody campaign. you win."
Fish has confirmed the cancellation with several news outlets as well.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 04:16:12
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Gunblaze West
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This is why we cant have nice things
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Kilkrazy wrote:We moderators often make unwise decisions on Friday afternoons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 04:17:13
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Ah look at the little baby. Aren't you cute? Where's your mommy?
Childish. I've thrown my share of rage, but this takes the cake.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 04:21:36
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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Fish seems to have trouble with criticism and the fact that people on the internet act like donkey-caves. He has been guilty of being an donkey-cave online as much as the people who upset him have done so. He is a great game designer but seems to struggler with the pressure that the industry and being an online presence brings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 09:03:06
Subject: Re:Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Since Phil Fish is an a** himself, I can't say I'm sad. http://venturebeat.com/2012/03/10/fez-creator-gamers-are-the-worst-fing-people/ http://kotaku.com/5891833/japanese-games-just-suck-target-speaks-out He apologized later but the damage was done. You can't let your emotions get the best of you in situations like this, it's so unprofessional it hurts. This is the reason donkey-cave people who are genius at something but horrible with people need that "people person" to act as a proxy.
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"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 09:36:47
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Unprofessional and childish reaction. Sad that Fez was a good game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 12:33:07
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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Very childish. No sympathy for the man anyways.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 12:41:39
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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screw you guys
I'M TAKING MY BALL AND GOING HOME!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 13:56:34
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
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The guy does seem to be a colossal douche.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 17:59:09
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I'm entertained by the names of those involved. Beer and Fish fight whilst Blow is caught in the middle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 18:02:52
Subject: Re:Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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TheDraconicLord wrote:This is the reason donkey-cave people who are genius at something but horrible with people need that "people person" to act as a proxy.
Exactly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 21:10:51
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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He's made it pretty clear in the past that he is a cry baby.
The news today is that cliff bleszinski made an open letter to fish to come back to the industry, so really all the high profile attention seekers in the game industry are getting involved, any second now Peter Molyneux will have something to say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 21:12:09
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Rotgut wrote:any second now Peter Molyneux will have something to say.
And as normal, we'll be excited about it but ultimately let down by the content.
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Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 21:23:38
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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People still get excited by anything coming out of that prick?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 21:41:06
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Fixture of Dakka
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I just can't quite work out peoples thought processes for this.
"Ok, I'm really stressed, you guys are all JERKS. Stop flaming me."
That, thought process I understand. Going from that to.
"I hate you guys so much and are so mean to me that 6 months from now, I'm going to stop being able to afford to pay my mortgage!*"
* Or sports cars or drug habit or toy soldier collection...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 21:46:45
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Confessor Of Sins
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Good riddance.
Nobody should support the "IM QUITTING THE INTERNET FOREVER AND YOURE ALL GOING TO MISS ME" kind of tantrums.
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Ouze wrote:
Afterward, Curran killed a guy in the parking lot with a trident.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 22:01:56
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Beast Lord
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But those are the best kind of tantrums...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 22:10:49
Subject: Re:Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Phil Fish is an awefull person anyway. His ego is about as big as the guy from Rovio. He think he's the world or something like that, just because he made ONE succesfull indie game..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 08:40:28
Subject: Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Fixture of Dakka
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Wow, the guy was constantly insulting his customers and gamers in general, and gets pissy when they bite back?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 09:00:01
Subject: Re:Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hum, I think Ctrl-Alt-Del resumed the situation well
(spoilered because of "bad" words  )
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"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 13:29:31
Subject: Re:Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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TheDraconicLord wrote:Hum, I think Ctrl-Alt-Del resumed the situation well
(spoilered because of "bad" words  )
Huh, that's the first humorous CAD I've seen in a while...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 13:59:25
Subject: Re:Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Wait, when did he become blue and the other one become red?
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
My deviantART Profile - Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Madness
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 14:13:24
Subject: Re:Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Those are characters he used sparingly before for some quick joke. There are 4 players, numbered 1 to 4, all with their distinct personalities. Now they show up much more often because the story with Ethan and company is done. You can try reading the final arc if you are curious.
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"Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth! These are the truths of this world! Surrender to these truths, you pigs in human clothing!" - Satsuki Kiryuin, Kill la Kill |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 14:19:26
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I gave up on Ctrl+Alt+Del when they stopped being funny, so around the second or so strip.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
My deviantART Profile - Pay No Attention To The Man Behind The Madness
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 16:09:58
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 16:15:40
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Confessor Of Sins
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Avatar 720 wrote:I gave up on Ctrl+Alt+Del when they stopped being funny, so around the second or so strip.
This just in: Ctrl+Alt+Del quits the internet because you're all so MEAN! WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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Ouze wrote:
Afterward, Curran killed a guy in the parking lot with a trident.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 16:31:47
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LordofHats wrote:Ah look at the little baby. Aren't you cute? Where's your mommy?
Childish. I've thrown my share of rage, but this takes the cake.
Have you worked with creative types? You know, the ones that live in their head? Worked with a few thin skinned types, he just needed a handler to forward the good stuff and to summarize "positive criticism" for him.
Like interpreting your comments to: "He is a very sensitive person, who's reaction is rather endearing, he just needs time to reflect. His innocent view of the world rivals my own."
Makes me wonder if he REALLY wanted to make the second game.
I bet he may have been looking for an excuse and was somewhat forced into it, do not always judge at face value.
It is not an easy thing to produce an Indie game and I am sure he faced far worse criticism than he does now (volume may have increased however but positive feedback should be proportionately larger), he just does not have the incentive (other than money but it's value may not mean much to him?!?!).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 16:51:25
Subject: Re:Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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The Jimquisition did an extra episode on the matter, it's unscripted, but still an interesting bit, perhaps aptly called " Go Fish"
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 17:38:15
Subject: Re:Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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What a stupid child. Herp derp words hurt my feelings.
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Fury from faith
Faith in fury
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 17:42:54
Subject: Re:Twitter Fight Ends in Game Being Cancelled
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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What a tear-soaked dildo.
Good on that guy on IW for calling him out on his BS.
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