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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 09:21:17
Subject: Just realised something
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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1. Pink horrors are coloured magenta.
2. The colour Magenta dosen't actually exist, It's an imaginary colour made up by the brain for a reddish-purple. kind of eldritch.
3. The pink horrors are daemons are Tzeench, who is the closest 40k has to a god of eldritch.
The colourscheme for the horrors makes much more sense now, dosen't it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 09:40:54
Subject: Just realised something
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The more sense it makes, the less Tzeentch-y it would be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 09:50:45
Subject: Just realised something
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Leader of the Sept
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I thought they were called Pink Horrors because they are all raggedy around the edges
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 10:13:46
Subject: Re:Just realised something
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I though it was because they had to stock pink paint and why else would anyone use it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 10:53:46
Subject: Just realised something
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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sing your life wrote:2. The colour Magenta dosen't actually exist, It's an imaginary colour made up by the brain for a reddish-purple.
Aren't all colours made up by the brain in the end?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 11:01:02
Subject: Re:Just realised something
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
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Bigfashizzel wrote:I though it was because they had to stock pink paint and why else would anyone use it?
Pink's a great colour, and can be used for a variety of things. Don't let it's supposed femininity scare you away.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 11:56:06
Subject: Just realised something
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Currently? Perhaps, but that's a question of perception, I'd still say they're closer to pink. However, check this out from the much older Horror models, either 1st or 2nd version:
No confusion there. That's pink through and through. I think you may be looking for an intentional reason where there isn't one at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 12:04:04
Subject: Just realised something
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kroothawk wrote: sing your life wrote:2. The colour Magenta dosen't actually exist, It's an imaginary colour made up by the brain for a reddish-purple.
Aren't all colours made up by the brain in the end?
I think what he meant to say was it is not actually on the wavelength spectrum.
Blue light (as the human brain perceives it) can be associated with a specific wavelength. Same for red. You see Magenta by perceiving both "blue-wavelength-light" and "red-wavelength-light" at equal intensity simultaneously. There is no "magenta-wavelength".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 14:04:35
Subject: Just realised something
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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Super Ready wrote:
Currently? Perhaps, but that's a question of perception, I'd still say they're closer to pink. However, check this out from the much older Horror models, either 1st or 2nd version:
No confusion there. That's pink through and through. I think you may be looking for an intentional reason where there isn't one at all.
All of the painting tutorials for horrors I've seen use magenta colours.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 14:25:10
Subject: Re:Just realised something
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Two questions about those tutorials, then... how old are they, and were those magenta colours the main base colour, or just for shading? Because I can see magenta being used on the models I linked, but they still definitely come out as pink.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 14:59:26
Subject: Re:Just realised something
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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Super Ready wrote:Two questions about those tutorials, then... how old are they, and were those magenta colours the main base colour, or just for shading? Because I can see magenta being used on the models I linked, but they still definitely come out as pink.
1. They were tutorial in recent WDs.
2. The tutorials used magenta [Screamer pink infact] with red shading.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 15:10:06
Subject: Just realised something
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sing your life wrote:The colour Magenta dosen't actually exist, It's an imaginary colour made up by the brain for a reddish-purple.
That's true if we're talking about painting with light, like a magenta-colored lens filter.
Painting with pigments, though, "magenta" is just pink.
It's pink for the pink god, nothing more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 15:14:05
Subject: Re:Just realised something
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Magenta is the natural complementary color of green. The two colors combined in the RGB model form white. Side-by-side, they provide the highest possible contrast and reinforce each other's brightness.
As a consequence, "Magenta Horrors" form - from a painting/colour-theory perspective - the ideal counter-point/colour-mix to green units in the same army, e.g. Plaguebearers, and most Nurgle-stuff, etc.. , in ways that Pink doesn't.
Old school 1980s-painters at GW might not have cared about that. Also, "Magenta Horrors" doesn't have quite the same ring as "Pink Horrors".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 15:20:51
Subject: Just realised something
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Hallowed Canoness
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For some reason, there's a history of representing things that are supposed to be prismatic, rainbow or multi-coloured as mostly pink.
You see it with Tzeentch, and you see it with Dungeons and Dragons monsters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 16:37:19
Subject: Re:Just realised something
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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sing your life wrote:1. They were tutorial in recent WDs.
2. The tutorials used magenta [Screamer pink infact] with red shading.
The reason I asked was because even if the current GW painters are deliberately using magenta (which I still think is more likely down to the current paint range only having a proper pink in the Dry paints, rather than a deliberate tie-in), it wouldn't have been the case way back in the day when the Pink Horrors were first created. Back then, the references and inspirations were a lot less subtle - just ask the Rogue Trader era Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau.
I didn't mean for my post to come across as argumentative, by the way - apologies if it did.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 18:07:55
Subject: Just realised something
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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actually, you might be able to get a closer approximation if you painted them white and then washed them blue, and then washed them red, and then washed them blue-red.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 18:25:03
Subject: Just realised something
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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I'm pretty sure you're imagining this entire Thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 18:28:57
Subject: Re:Just realised something
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Zweischneid wrote:Magenta is the natural complementary color of green. The two colors combined in the RGB model form white. Side-by-side, they provide the highest possible contrast and reinforce each other's brightness.
As a consequence, "Magenta Horrors" form - from a painting/colour-theory perspective - the ideal counter-point/colour-mix to green units in the same army, e.g. Plaguebearers, and most Nurgle-stuff, etc.. , in ways that Pink doesn't.
Old school 1980s-painters at GW might not have cared about that. Also, "Magenta Horrors" doesn't have quite the same ring as "Pink Horrors".

A painter would not use an RGB color wheel.  However magenta is still close to complimentary on a pigment color wheel.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 18:50:09
Subject: Just realised something
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Pink and Blue Horrors are actually neither pink nor blue. What they are is a color called "octarine", which is the true color of magick. However, the mortal mind, and its woefully inadequate organic eyeballs, cannot conceive of this color, let alone perceive it, so the meat interprets two of its shades as Pink and Blue.
To perceive octarine directly is to then drive shards of jagged glass into your occipital sockets as your mind and soul are rent asunder by the glory that is Tzeentch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 19:00:36
Subject: Just realised something
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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sing your life wrote:
2. The colour Magenta dosen't actually exist, It's an imaginary colour made up by the brain for a reddish-purple. kind of eldritch.
The color Magenta does exist. It can't be seen as a light color. It's created by throwing togeather an even amount of red and blue light.
Plus if the color didn't actually exist they wouldn't use it with verious printing methods.
And Pink Horrors aren't Magenta colored. They are most definitely pink. (Painting wise.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 20:41:48
Subject: Just realised something
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sing your life wrote:1. Pink horrors are coloured magenta.
2. The colour Magenta dosen't actually exist, It's an imaginary colour made up by the brain for a reddish-purple. kind of eldritch.
3. The pink horrors are daemons are Tzeench, who is the closest 40k has to a god of eldritch.
The colourscheme for the horrors makes much more sense now, dosen't it?
For the love of Al Gore, put a title that gives us a frakking clue what the thread is... that's what titles are for
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 21:41:47
Subject: Just realised something
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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Lobukia wrote: sing your life wrote:1. Pink horrors are coloured magenta.
2. The colour Magenta dosen't actually exist, It's an imaginary colour made up by the brain for a reddish-purple. kind of eldritch.
3. The pink horrors are daemons are Tzeench, who is the closest 40k has to a god of eldritch.
The colourscheme for the horrors makes much more sense now, dosen't it?
For the love of Al Gore, put a title that gives us a frakking clue what the thread is... that's what titles are for
For the love of Talos, I gave you enough "frakking" clues to kill a IG platoon. The title Says that I realised the contents of the thread, which is exactly what the thread is about  .....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 21:58:01
Subject: Just realised something
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BUT something could be anything at all, from your magenta pink horrors to a story of how you went on a journey to meet a dog and you realised the dog was a dog. Make the title something people will actually know about rather than a really vague one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 22:09:18
Subject: Just realised something
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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According the John Blanche interview in WD, they are only called Pink Horrors because the first batch of models were painted up pink by the studio painters. Pink was never supposed to be a color associated with Tzeentch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/02 23:01:20
Subject: Just realised something
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Wicked Warp Spider
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A better way of looking at the difference between pink and magenta/fuchsia is to look at how pink is defined instead of magenta.
Magenta is a specific colour without a wavelength but with a mixture of specific wave lengths creating a whole which is the same colour with very little variation.
Pink on the other hand is just about any colour between blue and red, leaning towards red, when you mix blue and red wavelengths.
Pink is the domain wherein magenta resides.
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