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The sad thing is, I was actually thinking I was being unfair on the model at Reaction #2.

Lol Compel, you read my mind again

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 Compel wrote:
First reaction: "They look god awful."

Second reaction... "That might be the BRIGHT YELLOW paint scheme."

Third reaction: Hey, wait a second, aren't those arms and heads even MORE wrong than the standard terminator proportions. Even the exosuit / dreadknight point of view doesn't work as there's no way to actually move your elbows inside that suit.

 RiTides wrote:

Agreed, I went through the same... I don't think there's any saving these for me, but luckily I have an excellent alternate model in mind to use

Please, share?

They looks surprisingly bad to me, I'm not sure what it is but the poses and proportions just dont look right. Compared to how good some of the other kits have been recently they just seem like something of a letdown.

That said they look like an easy enough conversion from a terminator base model if needed. Depending on rules.

I suppose one could fix the head size issue on the centurions by adding a rollcage type dome or something. That still leaves the awful looking legs, however. Maybe they could be converted to look modular, kinda like the tau riptides legs?

I dunno. I don't play SM, but I've already been crippled because I refuse to use the abominable Heldrake model.

I just don't understand what purpose these are supposed to serve. Between Terminators and Dreadnoughts, I can't figure out how these will fit in.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I was thinking about using FW termies for centurions too, but it seems to me that centurions are on 60mm bases, making them way bigger than terminators.

Looking at the heads and power fists they don't look all that bigger.

Just throwing this out there, what if they're on new 50mm bases?

Well I showed them to my nine year old son, who thought they where fething amazing.. his own words (yes we taught him fake swears ) and in general loved the new models.

So I guess they are hitting their core audience.

Not for me mind, and to be honest I'd love the see the fluff for them, I'm scratching my head on why they'd be a necessary development in Marine warfare.

 Compel wrote:
First reaction: "They look god awful."

Second reaction... "That might be the BRIGHT YELLOW paint scheme."

Third reaction: Hey, wait a second, aren't those arms and heads even MORE wrong than the standard terminator proportions. Even the exosuit / dreadknight point of view doesn't work as there's no way to actually move your elbows inside that suit.

Um, it's very obvious that they're not modeled to have the space marine arms "inside" the outer arms or anything silly like that. The space marine is contained within the torso of the unit. Put a regular space marine next to the picture with the same size helm for scale, and the entire mini fits within the torso.

I like the assault Centurions and the Stalker / Hunter.I do still want to see the Heavy weapon dudes though.

How can you go from creating Dark Eldar to this.... just stahppp.

At least forgeworld knows how to make marines!

 5deadly wrote:
I'd rather buy Contemptors and knockem down 4mms with some cuts here and there or get some Tartaros pattern Tactical Dreadnought Armor and kit it out raise the base level to height and throw it on the right base size. If the rules are solid then I’ll make proxies for them.

Thinking about getting some Mk V Armor and Phobos Pattern Bolters and building a new 2000 point force… I already have 15+ Mk IV sets and a tons of rare heads… hmmmm
Sternguard!
Hey who made Sternguard scoring units?

Pedro Kantor of the Crimson Fists

Locrian wrote:

Um, it's very obvious that they're not modeled to have the space marine arms "inside" the outer arms or anything silly like that. The space marine is contained within the torso of the unit. Put a regular space marine next to the picture with the same size helm for scale, and the entire mini fits within the torso.

Nice to see someone else realises this. They are more like heavy walkers than suits of armour.

 Grimtuff wrote:

Just throwing this out there, what if they're on new 50mm bases?

It would absolutely make sense scale-wise, but it would mean GW introducing a new base size.

 c0j1r0 wrote:
Pedro Kantor makes Sternguard scoring in the current Codex. No telling if he still will in the new one though.

Duh... thanks man!
I totally forgot about him at this point... Hmmm return to my crimson fist.... No must DIY another chapter....

 Crimson wrote:
I was thinking about using FW termies for centurions too, but it seems to me that centurions are on 60mm bases, making them way bigger than terminators.

Nothing wrong with that man. I’m looking at “His masters Voice” Photoshop pic and thinking I might just do that if the rules rock… use a 60mm base if they are on 60s and raise the height a touch. At this point you can make a pretty scenic base too

I dunno...they look OK and I've already gotten some conversion ideas.
Of course the rules will be the make or break point on these guys...S4T4W1 Sv2+5++ you may as well just stick with TH/SS termies.
However, something like S5T5W2 Sv 2+ 3 or 4++ would make them more palatable. Also how many transport slots do they take? 2 like a termie? or perhaps 3 (so your squad of 3 just fit in a pod or standard LR with enough room for a PA HQ to tag along).
If the Assault version has no new hotness goochy way of dealing with Tau Support fire they will likely just die as fast as a 5 man termie unit.

While not a scientific poll by anymeans the poll I put up on capture and control has had 71 responses in a little over an hour. They are resoundingly negative. But you know, its all just opinion...

 Crimson wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

Just throwing this out there, what if they're on new 50mm bases?

It would absolutely make sense scale-wise, but it would mean GW introducing a new base size.

They've done it plenty of times before in WHFB (Skarsnik, Araknarok) the last one we had in 40k was the oval base.

The thing that I don't like on the centurions is not the heads or legs but those huge drills. Try taking away the drills and they don't look as bad.

Also here are some new legs http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/CASTELLAX_BATTLE_AUTOMATA.html Would be expensive though

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Not for me mind, and to be honest I'd love the see the fluff for them, I'm scratching my head on why they'd be a necessary development in Marine warfare.

That's the one thing about the Centurions - particularly the Assault version - that currently interests me.

 Fezman wrote:

Locrian wrote:

Um, it's very obvious that they're not modeled to have the space marine arms "inside" the outer arms or anything silly like that. The space marine is contained within the torso of the unit. Put a regular space marine next to the picture with the same size helm for scale, and the entire mini fits within the torso.

Nice to see someone else realises this. They are more like heavy walkers than suits of armour.

Or wholesale bionics. I dont really think they are, because it would be the easiest way to make make sense of the proportions (and would indeed place them betveen terminators and dreadnoughts, in many ways).
I keep making exuses and possibilities for these models. I actually like them
(and are 90% sure they will look great once I see the actual model, also the first blurry ultras was actually less static than the yellow ones).
Still, I dont trust GW to write up convincing fluff for them.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Well I showed them to my nine year old son, who thought they where fething amazing.. his own words (yes we taught him fake swears ) and in general loved the new models.

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 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:

Not for me mind, and to be honest I'd love the see the fluff for them, I'm scratching my head on why they'd be a necessary development in Marine warfare.

The assault drill centurier assault drills his way into any fortress, maybe?
> Anti-building - marines to prepare for more Terrain kits?

Fluff is, an STC was found and double wielding weapons isn't a bad thing, so.....

But don't SM have ironclad and regular dreadnoughts just for breaching fortifications. I mean ironclad has a weapon just for that sole purpose.

 Grimtuff wrote:
Just throwing this out there, what if they're on new 50mm bases?

Could be. They did introduce the 40mm base to accommodate the Brian Nelson's Warboss, there's no reason they can't introduce another base for a unit that needs it.

Saying that I do believe some of the early rumours stated those are mounted on 40mm.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Well I showed them to my nine year old son, who thought they where fething amazing.. his own words (yes we taught him fake swears

Exemplary parenting.

I'm dead serious here.

Time for termitubbies!

We just need some green and red ones to go with the blue and yellow.

I laugh at the failure of GW.
Man I will have to write some lore about how the Chapters Refuse to use the Mini-Dreadknights at all. Of course I could slap on some awesome helmets, dull down the armor and make them look awesome...

Hmm. I see potential but it still looks dumber than nails.

Lol, lexicanum strikes again!

 pizzaguardian wrote:
But don't SM have ironclad and regular dreadnoughts just for breaching fortifications. I mean ironclad has a weapon just for that sole purpose.

They have Dreadnoughts to save fallen Brothers and let them fight on. There's only so many Dreadnoughts in a Chapter, being able to add some non-Dreadnought brothers to a breaching effort could come in handy.

 Crablezworth wrote:
Why couldn't it have been something more like this

I was mildly excited when I saw these concept pieces but that feeling has been now replaced by disappointment. There was a possibility of having a cool looking Devastator replacement, but what we got is just silly.

 OverwatchCNC wrote:
Lol, lexicanum strikes again!

I actually think those don't look even remotely orkish, and I don't mean the paintjob.

Those concept sketches are still of a marine in power armor, and the Centurions are somewhere between TERMINATOR armor and DREADNOUGHTS.

That's why they don't look like that.