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**zedster40k**

What in your opinion is the most over-rated thing to do with warhammer 40k. This could be a rule, model, charecter, fluff, anything!

**Zweischneid**

Forge World

Mostly their pretentious fluff, which doesn't fit 40K very well. Models are overrated too. Rules are crap.

**PrinceRaven**

Ultramarines.

**curran12**

Squats

**SaintTom**

Space Wolves

**zedster40k**

I second ultramarines

**Sigvatr**

Necrons as a whole. People only think of flyer spam / Wraith spam and, most likely haven't played against (any other) list yet.

**PrinceRaven**

Sigvatr wrote:
Necrons as a whole. People only think of flyer spam / Wraith spam and, most likely haven't played against (any other) list yet.

I've played against Warrior phalanx supported by Ghost Arks, still a pretty powerful list without resorting to cheesy units.

**gossipmeng**

Zweischneid wrote:
Forge World

Mostly their pretentious fluff, which doesn't fit 40K very well. Models are overrated too. Rules are crap.

I love Forge World and the majority of my armies are comprised of mostly their kits - however I will agree that a good chunk of their releases are rather mediocre. I'd say I love probably 25% of the content they release, but that still leaves an overwhelming 75% that just misses the mark.

**ZebioLizard2**

Space Wolves. Most childish fluff, most hypocritical faction, a faction that has the stupidest naming conventions...

**MaCa**

The new trend "monster for everyone". It's really not that bad.

**kinratha**

Zweischneid wrote:
Forge World

Mostly their pretentious fluff, which doesn't fit 40K very well. Models are overrated too. Rules are crap.

How dose there fluff not fit 40k? almost all there models have more detail then GWs. and They rules they have are just like at Codex right now.

OP: I think its ultramarines and necrons.

**hellpato**

Internet list... people stop thinking when is time to create a list.

**Wolfnid420**

Riptide!! Its a bullet sponge, thats what its there for and when people shoot at it they are playing into its hands, in CAN put out some power, but if you dump all your shots into it the rest of the army will shoot you down!

**Aleph-Sama**

ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Space Wolves. Most childish fluff, most hypocritical faction, a faction that has the stupidest naming conventions...

You have to be hypocritical in order to be loyal to the imperium. Making sense makes you ally with tau or eldar, and wanting more makes you choose chaos. Though I agree with the naming convetions...

Too much wolf for your wolf to handle... As for the fluff? Space Marine anything is childish. Except Sallies, but they make too much sense being the boy scouts of the imperium (helping old ladies across the street, playing with fire, etc)

**TheCustomLime**

Space Marines.

You have the most superpowerful soldiers that has ever existed in mankind's history? And they are armed with the greatest weaponry ever?! Great! How many do you got?

1 Million...? Well, there is this other army we got that has hundreds of trillions of soldiers and the beefiest tanks ever made... so... yeah... have fun being irrelevant.

**Talore**

I don't really get Space Marines either. On the huge scale of 40k, I get that they can be the precision strike to hit the weak point in an enemy's campaign, but they are so few in number! Look at how easily they still die on the tabletop. I have a really hard time believing that they would be able to sustain the losses they should take for reasons other than "but they're so cool!"

**Freman Bloodglaive**

Ultramarines are not overrated, they really are that good.

**PrinceRaven**

MaCa wrote:
The new trend "monster for everyone". It's really not that bad.

Yet.

**Mark1130**

Matt Ward. This

guy has taken 40k and wiped his

with it. If I had one wish that would be granted from GW, getting rid of that moron would be it.

**curran12**

Mark1130 wrote:
Matt Ward. This guy has taken 40k and wiped his with it. If I had one wish that would be granted from GW, getting rid of that moron would be it.

Do you know what overrated means?

**Sanguinis**

He's saying that GW overrated Matt Ward and I agree. They let him write everything!!!

**Rawrgyle**

Wolfnid420 wrote:
Riptide!! Its a bullet sponge, thats what its there for and when people shoot at it they are playing into its hands, i[t] CAN put out some power, but if you dump all your shots into it the rest of the army will shoot you down!

For me its the tau players that put velocity trackers on Ion Accelerator riptides... thats the most overated thing I keep seeing popping up in netlists.

**Kangodo**

Sigvatr wrote:
Necrons as a whole. People only think of flyer spam / Wraith spam and, most likely haven't played against (any other) list yet.

And the problem is that no matter what it does, people will complain it's overpowered anyway.

At the moment I am in a game of Apocalypse (day 2 is about to begin in 2 hours).
Someone is already complaining about Necrons, when they haven't even shot down a single of his models.

Furthermore they focused a Baneblade, a Shadowsword and God knows how many Heavy Weapon-teams and Artillery on my 60 Necron Warrior-blob.
Needless to say they killed around 90% of the group, but 50% got back up.
And now Necrons are 'OP' because they don't know how to 'target priority'.

**PrinceRaven**

It's an apocalypse game and they're shooting at blobs of Warriors? Hilarious.

**Zweischneid**

PrinceRaven wrote:
It's an apocalypse game and they're shooting at blobs of Warriors? Hilarious.

Isn't that the point? If you're not using buckets to clear models from the table, you're doing it wrong. Otherwise it's just kinda-40K even more inappropriately scaled tanks/walkers.

**dreamakuma**

Grey Knights fluff

and gw being the worst company in the world.

**TheDraconicLord**

Talore wrote:
I don't really get Space Marines either. On the huge scale of 40k, I get that they can be the precision strike to hit the weak point in an enemy's campaign, but they are so few in number! Look at how easily they still die on the tabletop. I have a really hard time believing that they would be able to sustain the losses they should take for reasons other than "but they're so cool!"

There's a difference between "Table-Top" and fiction. If 40k SM were "fiction awesome", they would probably be like the Necromunda Space Marine. I never played it, but according to those who did, a single Space Marine would require your entire gang, armed to the teeth with the best stuff they could get their hands on, and even then it would be a hard fought battle.

For me: Necrons. No, we are not that freakin' scary, honest!

**Glizzy6d**

Ultramarines... Necrons are pretty cheesy in general.

**Blacksails**

Space Marines.