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That's because Storm of Magic is intended for Casual gaming.

Kroak could get taken to a Tournemant where gak'll hit the fan and waste precious event time!!!


And if something says "Anywhere within x inches" why is that suddenly still under the effects of the Front Arc rule, whereas all units in x" is not?

I would say Lord Kroak's spell can't target enemies in close combat. I'm pretty sure they would've clarified that.

I would also say Lord Kroak can't keep casting after Broken Concentration.

As for if he can cast only within forward arc or not, that's a tough one. It's pretty ridiculous that they didn't clarify this. As a house rule for now, I'm going to say Kroak can only target units within forward arc.

The Ancient Stegadon's bound spell is written in the same way...

Are they specifically listed as DD thiugh? The BRB does set out what the restrictions on DD are...

Its a DD spell.

However, the only restriction on DD in front arc deals with targetting.

Lord Kroak and ancient steg's EotG do not target. They just hit, anything in range.

Well his power affects the "targets" so he must target in a weird way.

Why must they continually make exceptions without clarity?
Yes dd spells have restrictions but how much does the all units within 12 override? That is the problem its all best gueses.

canadianguy wrote:
Why must they continually make exceptions without clarity?
Yes dd spells have restrictions but how much does the all units within 12 override? That is the problem its all best gueses.

This is true, but until they do clarify, you need to assume that all rules stand unless they contradic each other. "Everything in front arc within range" satisfies both sets of rules. "Everything within range" does not.
So without an FAQ, it needs to be front arc.

And I could argue it is clear all units within 12 which overrides both front arc and cc restrictions. Could also toss out dex overrules bRB.
It needs an FAQ for sure we obviously are on differeny sides of the debate.

Specific overides general, there is no specific override of front arc in the armybook, so it does not override.

Take the least advantageous.

The fact it's a DD doesn't really have any bearing. DD only says it must be cast on enemies. The rest of the DD description is about templates, and it's not a template.

The 4 bullet points for all spells unless otherwise stated, is what is important.
-forward arc
-No LOS needed
-In range
-target not in CC

Nothing in Kroak's spell description states otherwise. To state otherwise it would literally have to state otherwise. Like if you read under Augment it says, with bold letters, can be cast into combat and doesn't have to be in forward arc.

Every bullet item above is still satisfied by Kroak's spell rules. Range, in forward arc, not in combat, no LOS needed.

DukeRustfield wrote:
The fact it's a DD doesn't really have any bearing. DD only says it must be cast on enemies. The rest of the DD description is about templates, and it's not a template.

The 4 bullet points for all spells unless otherwise stated, is what is important.
-forward arc
-No LOS needed
-In range
-target not in CC

Nothing in Kroak's spell description states otherwise. To state otherwise it would literally have to state otherwise. Like if you read under Augment it says, with bold letters, can be cast into combat and doesn't have to be in forward arc.

Every bullet item above is still satisfied by Kroak's spell rules. Range, in forward arc, not in combat, no LOS needed.

Targeting restrictions vary from spell to spell. However, unless stated otherwise the following rules apply: -page 31

Kroak has 2 enemies on the table.
A) Steam Tank: In forward Arc, 5" away, not in combat, in line of sight
B) Witchhunter: In line of sight, 5" away on the flank, not in combat, not in arc, as he's on the flank.

You're failing to target all enemy units within 12" as per the spells targeting. IMO, that is "Stating Otherwise", as outlined on page 31, making the forward arc and out of combat requirements be ignored. The In Range and Only Enemies are stated in the spell description.

-Matt

I think that's RAI, I don't think it's RAW. It's absolutely pointless to point out it's a direct damage spell if it immediately restates explicitly the one rule of DD that applies and contradicts half the rules of all other spells.

I think it's a stretch to say that "all" implicitly means 360 degrees and in/out of combat. I was going to do a search around for some kind of shooting attacks that say you can target any/all/a target within X range--and I think there's some somewhere. Because implicitly that would mean you could ignore the rules for shooting. I just don't feel like digging through books.

I like Kroak. He's cool beans. But he needs it FAQed. Those 3 letters are trying to support a whole lot of weight.

The need to state it as direct damage to allow it to cast through a skink.

If you look at the 4 requirements for a spell:
In range, only enemies, in arc, not in combat.
His spell explicitly covers 2 of those.

If it followed the normal targeting restrictions, you wouldn't need to mention within range and enemy units; that would be a given.

Surely it doesn't mention "in range", just tells you what the range is - same as every other DD.
As for saying not in combat, that effectively says all does not mean all, that as usual , units in combat cannot be targeted. This does not affect it being front arc or 360º, and both arguements could say that it supports their side.

Yeah, kind of like saying

"He can shoot at a target within 16"

One way to look at that very simple sentence is that he can shoot at ANY target within 16, whether it's behind him, he can't see it, it's in combat, or anything. OR, it follows all the normal rules for shooting it just has to be within 16.

I tend to lean toward the last one as when they are breaking pre-existing rules, I like to see at least some explicit acknowledgement.

This smacks a bit of the "it doesn't say i can't" approach that has been proven wrong on numerous occasions in YMDC.