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2013/08/06 16:05:18
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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2013/08/06 16:08:02
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Krazed Killa Kan
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can you rehost? Cracked is on the work-blocked list..
(but.. Dakka ain't.. go fig)
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2013/08/06 16:11:20
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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#4. Games Workshop Claims to Own the Concept of Space Marines
Games Workshop
Science fiction is a genre based almost entirely on the theme of people doing the things that people usually do, except in space. Given that people love space and love explosions, it took about 40 seconds after the invention of sci-fi for someone to type the words "space marines" on their steampunk typewriter. The term goes back at least to 1932, and the trope was made iconic by books like Starship Troopers and films like Aliens. We also have it on good authority that there's something called an "Xbox" that does nothing but play games starring space marines.
But in 1987 -- more than half a century after the sci-fi world had combined the chocolate of "space" with the peanut butter of "marines" -- Games Workshop published a science fiction strategy game called Warhammer 40,000. One of the character classes in it was called "space marine," which Games Workshop quickly trademarked. From that moment forward, anyone else publishing a sci-fi tabletop game had to fill it with space seamen instead. Or something.
Twenty years later, Games Workshop decided to enter the fiction market and were shocked to find that fiction about space marines already existed. The only reasonable thing to do was sue these bastards who stole their idea of marines in space. The biggest dick move on the thieves' part was that they apparently used time travel to do it.
The Fallout:
Unfortunately for Games Workshop, they apparently knew nothing at all about sci-fi literature. They could have sued any one of the hundreds of authors who used the words "space marine" in their books. They could have sued freaking Microsoft for publishing a line of Halo books. People love it when Microsoft gets sued.
Also, Microsoft has money.
Instead, they went after M.C.A. Hogarth, a stay-at-home mom making ends meet by self-publishing sci-fi novels. They contacted Amazon, demanding that they take down her hilariously titled novel Spots the Space Marine: Defense of the Fiddler.
As you might imagine, this sort of corporate bullying didn't sit well with the general public. The Interwebs lit up with nerdrage, several noted sci-fi authors jumped to Hogarth's defense, and Games Workshop quietly dropped the complaint. Meanwhile, Hogarth got all sorts of free publicity for her book. Admit it, the title alone has you curious.
Clearly, this book is about a gigantic interspecies military orgy with the ant-men from Planet X.
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2013/08/06 16:27:45
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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Hilarious. Especially since the whole techno-worship that 40k revolves around was stolen from The Foundation by Asimov.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/08/06 16:28:29
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2013/08/06 16:29:01
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Pious Warrior Priest
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I've read spots the space marine, it's actually a pretty good book. 
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2013/08/06 16:42:59
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Did the Fiddler get defended in the end?
I hope not those bastards should hang!
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How do you promote your Hobby? - Legoburner "I run some crappy wargaming website " |
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2013/08/06 16:49:23
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Regular Dakkanaut
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 notprop wrote:Did the Fiddler get defended in the end?
I hope not those bastards should hang!
Cracked wrote:Clearly, this book is about a gigantic interspecies military orgy with the ant-men from Planet X.
I'm starting to believe GW had other reasons for wanting this book off the shelves.
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Little orphans in the snow
With nowhere to call a home
Start their singing, singing
Waiting through the summertime
To thaw your hearts in wintertime
That's why they're singing, singing |
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2013/08/06 18:16:15
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Morphing Obliterator
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Is there not some women in Spain who's claimed she owns the sun and is planning to charge people for using it.
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2013/08/06 18:24:25
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Everyone who has skin cancer should sue her for failing to protect them from her product which is clearly hazardous and not being managed regarding public health.
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2013/08/06 18:43:47
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Regular Dakkanaut
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 Howard A Treesong wrote:Everyone who has skin cancer should sue her for failing to protect them from her product which is clearly hazardous and not being managed regarding public health.
See, if she wins that lawsuit, she'll end up being wanted to for mass man slaughter.
http://metro.co.uk/2010/11/28/spanish-woman-claims-to-own-the-sun-and-wants-to-charge-for-its-usage-593371/
Ms Duran, of Salvaterra de Miño, plans to charge all users and give half the proceeds to the Spanish government, 20 per cent to the nation’s pension fund, ten per cent to research and ten per cent to fighting world hunger.
And the last ten per cent? That’s going straight to her bank account, she says.
While her intentions aren't bad (charity and all that), no ones going to really want to back her except for the Spanish government (if they are that crazy).
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/08/06 18:46:12
Little orphans in the snow
With nowhere to call a home
Start their singing, singing
Waiting through the summertime
To thaw your hearts in wintertime
That's why they're singing, singing |
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2013/08/07 14:52:28
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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One of the writers for Cracked plays Fantasy.
I saw a few references to "Blood for the Blood God" and I emailed him.
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2013/08/07 16:35:49
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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eclipseoto wrote:Hilarious. Especially since the whole techno-worship that 40k revolves around was stolen from The Foundation by Asimov.
The Foundation series, of course, being stolen from the fall of the Roman Empire.
Not a lawyer, but the legal point behind 'stealing' something seems to be that it's pretty blatant and specific. In this case (which was discussed on DakkaDakka months ago), GW might have had a case if not for a few specific uses of the term Space Marine[/i] in fiction predating their own. They don't own the copyright to marines in space, even if they do claim some copyright of the words Space Marines in gaming and other contexts. And, yes, GW is the evilz... But they need to be treated fairly before the law same as anyone else.
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Play the games that make you happy. |
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2013/08/10 20:25:15
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Executing Exarch
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GW should hire her immediately
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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2013/08/10 20:37:52
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
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^This, because its not about skill, its about attitude.
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War is not a matter of who is right, it is a matter of who is left.
It’s all fun and games until someone loses an eye. Then it’s fun and games without depth perception. - TSOALR
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2013/08/11 03:20:33
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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And another meme is born
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Adam's Motto: Paint, Create, Play, but above all, have fun.  -and for something silly below-
"We are the Ultramodrines, And We Shall Fear No Trolls. bear this USR with pride".
Also, how does one apply to be a member of the Ultramodrines? Are harsh trials involved, ones that would test my faith as a wargamer and resolve as a geek?
You must recite every rule of Dakka Dakka. BACKWARDS.
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2013/08/11 16:46:19
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Welp, there goes the rest of my day.
Thanks a lot, Lotus.
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2013/08/11 18:16:52
Subject: Re:Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Very amusingly written..
That claiming ownership of the Sun piece brings to mind that Werner Herzog movie.. I forget the name, but it ends with the 'rulers' of the amazon, the guys that have claimed it, adrift down the river to their deaths..
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2013/08/11 18:37:23
Subject: Re:Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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 Pacific wrote:Very amusingly written..
That claiming ownership of the Sun piece brings to mind that Werner Herzog movie.. I forget the name, but it ends with the 'rulers' of the amazon, the guys that have claimed it, adrift down the river to their deaths..
Sounds line Aguirre, but they don't claim to own the river but are looking for El Dorado.
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2013/08/11 20:15:49
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Bounding Black Templar Assault Marine
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Wasn'.t there something a few years back where you supposedly could buy land on the moon or own a star???
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2013/08/11 20:33:52
Subject: Re:Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Yes you can. Knew someone actually who bought an acre or so on the grounds that it was going cheap, although he was quite foolish and easily parted from his money
Fenrir Kitsune wrote: Pacific wrote:Very amusingly written..
That claiming ownership of the Sun piece brings to mind that Werner Herzog movie.. I forget the name, but it ends with the 'rulers' of the amazon, the guys that have claimed it, adrift down the river to their deaths..
Sounds line Aguirre, but they don't claim to own the river but are looking for El Dorado.
That's the one! And thanks (obviously need to watch that one again! )
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2013/08/11 22:48:39
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Dakka Veteran
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It does mention that GW dropped the suit after wide public outcry, you should give them credit for that.
Personally I think the chapterhouse case was more absurd. Didn't they try to lay claim to Roman numerals and halberds?
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The plural of codex is codexes.
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2013/08/11 23:08:16
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Meh. The list doesn't even include Facebook, who claims ownership to words "Face", "Poke", "Wall" and "Book".
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Mr Vetock, give back my Multi-tracker! |
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2013/08/11 23:31:11
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Executing Exarch
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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2013/08/12 05:24:21
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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next apple will try to sue mother nature for apple trees
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2013/08/13 02:20:11
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Too late. The Democratic Peoples Republic of Kalifornia has already claimed the Sun and to back up their claim they impose a Tax upon the Slaves...errrr...Subjects of the DPRK for being out in that sunshine.
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Life isn't fair. But wouldn't it be worse if Life were fair, and all of the really terrible things that happen to us were because we deserved them?
M. Cole.
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2013/08/13 12:51:32
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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xruslanx wrote:It does mention that GW dropped the suit after wide public outcry, you should give them credit for that.
To be fair, I suspect its more likely someone low down in legal got a little trigger happy with the S&D's, sent one out without thinking or knowing the product. I doubt anything further would ever have come from it. Still not a good thing to do, but I hate it when people claim that these crusades do anything. Tabloid papers do it all the time. Pick a bit of proposed legislation that is clearly not going anywhere because its so monumentally stupid, start a campaign then claim credit whilst doing nothing more than make people angry and waste time.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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 insaniak wrote:Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
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2013/08/14 00:49:40
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Posts with Authority
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 Steve steveson wrote:xruslanx wrote:It does mention that GW dropped the suit after wide public outcry, you should give them credit for that.
To be fair, I suspect its more likely someone low down in legal got a little trigger happy with the S&D's, sent one out without thinking or knowing the product. I doubt anything further would ever have come from it. Still not a good thing to do, but I hate it when people claim that these crusades do anything. Tabloid papers do it all the time. Pick a bit of proposed legislation that is clearly not going anywhere because its so monumentally stupid, start a campaign then claim credit whilst doing nothing more than make people angry and waste time.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
I think that it is most likely that Amazon stuck their oar in.
Amazon is not stupid.
GW never did begin a suit in the matter, merely made a DMCA claim to Amazon.... (The DMCA really needs to be tightened up. As it is written it is all together too easy to abuse.)
Amazon tends to just pull the 'offending' material.
Then the solid digestive waste impacted the rotary impeller, and Amazon backed down.
Because Amazon isn't stupid. GW legal on the other hand....
The Auld Grump
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
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2013/08/14 01:19:46
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Mutating Changebringer
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Steve steveson wrote:xruslanx wrote:It does mention that GW dropped the suit after wide public outcry, you should give them credit for that.
To be fair, I suspect its more likely someone low down in legal got a little trigger happy with the S&D's, sent one out without thinking or knowing the product. I doubt anything further would ever have come from it. Still not a good thing to do, but I hate it when people claim that these crusades do anything. Tabloid papers do it all the time. Pick a bit of proposed legislation that is clearly not going anywhere because its so monumentally stupid, start a campaign then claim credit whilst doing nothing more than make people angry and waste time.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
Not to pick on you overly much but, as detailed elsewhere, the filings by GW were not the informal C&D (presuming that's what you mean by S&D), but a specific representation under the DMCA. A prima facia improper representation.
The act may have been without thought, but it was by no means innocent.
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2013/08/14 01:28:17
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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There was a guy in America who bought a superman cape. He then went home and jumped off the roof of his house and broke his leg. He then sued the producers of the cape for $20 million because it didn't say on the box that the cape didn't enable the ability to fly...
He won...
This is true
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2013/08/14 01:30:59
Subject: Cracked Article "The 6 Most Ridiculous Things People Claimed to Legally Own"
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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BaconUprising wrote:There was a guy in America who bought a superman cape. He then went home and jumped off the roof of his house and broke his leg. He then sued the producers of the cape for $20 million because it didn't say on the box that the cape didn't enable the ability to fly...
He won...
This is true
It's so true that I can't find anything about it. Link?
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