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 Zaqqaz wrote:
The Tyranids bio-fleets.

Think about it: an intelligent, ferocious and efficient super-organism composed of countless horrifying creatures mauling, lacerating, devouring and consuming everything on their way.
Imagine the terror of the Adeptus Mechanicus researchers on Tyran (the first imperial world to fall in front of the Great Devourer) who watched their formidable planet defenses being overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of the enemy: a soulless horde of alien beasts, every one of which is just an expendable pawn.
You can't negotiate with them: you can only resist or be assimilated. The survival of the fittest at its best.
That's why Tyranids are by far the most disturbing creatures of the WH40k universe.

I find myself in the weird position that the Nids is the faction I like the most.
For all the races, they are the most united, with no infighting and under one overwhelming will, with a coordination that put even the Astartes to shame.
Also they are one of the few races that are continuously evolving.

In some way the Hive Mind is the antithesis to the Chaos. While the Chaos is, well chaos and disorder, the Hive Mind is order (and hunger ).

TiamatRoar wrote:

 DrSchwartz wrote:
Probably the hygiene of Space Marines.

You never hear about them taking off their armour...imagine the eons of sweat built up in those things...eeugh

I believe the armour canonically contains waste recycling. Which includes absorbing off the sweat and filtering it etc. It is indeed possible (and in fact true that) some marines pretty much NEVER take off their armour, but they aren't really dirty inside cause the armour itself is constantly cleaning that.

At least, If my memory is correct. It's possible it only canonically has a built in toilet function.

A toilet function?? Well it's good to know that there is a hygiene function but a toilet function?!? How often do you hear in canon a Space Marine eat or drink (excluding Space Wolves). I know they have a feasting hall in their Fortress Monasteries but, their battles go on for ages and they're 7 foot tall monsters with tons of muscle...they should theoretically be eating as much as an elephant. So I think a toilet function is fairly obsolete!!

Maybe they just have a flap at the back of their armour - saves a whole lot of time and cleaning product!

if you are ever killed by a Keeper of Secrets your soul is tormented till the end of time in slanneshs realm.

Ok, that wins

I've never liked the thought of being on a planet getting virus bombed... but even more disturbing would be managing to kill Lucius the Eternal, and then waking up with scars...

The idea that mankind has to become this all consuming war machine, the line "In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war" sums it up. Teetering on the brink, from external threats such as Tyranids, and internal threats such as corruption by Chaos. It's the sense of hopelessness I think.

 rohansoldier wrote:

 Omegus wrote:
What the Inquisition does is necessary. And while since the passing of the Sigillite they have become fractured and certainly have some overzealous members, they're nothing compared to the witch hunters of the Ecclesiarchy.

Daemonculaba was pretty gross. So was Kurze skinning children alive on global vox/pict feeds to deter jaywalking among the population.

I know about the Daemonculaba but where is this bit about Kurze from?

Throne of Lies, where Sevatar basically calls out Kurze's philosophy as a bunch of bs.

 Kovnik Obama wrote:
The most disturbing thing would be servitor-dom. Not only are the ''good guys'' the worst slavers in the galaxy, they top it up with horrifying surgeries that leaves you a lobotomised tool. And the general population is cool with it.

Well humanity did try plain old robot servants once but that ended pretty horrifically. The moral of the story is that robots are evil, the unkillable space Egyptian kind doubly so.

How the grey knights have their gear sanctified, sacrificing of innocents and burning of psykers with weak/useless abilities on the black ships to bless their gear with anti daemon wards.

 Tyran wrote:
I find myself in the weird position that the Nids is the faction I like the most.
For all the races, they are the most united, with no infighting

They do have a sort of infighting. Often when two different Hive Fleets meet, they will try to each each other. But even this serves a higher unity, since it is essentially the Hivemind evolving its forces. The strongest 'Nids survive and get all the biomass and favourable traits of the loser.

 Waaghboss Grobnub wrote:

 Zaqqaz wrote:
The Tyranids bio-fleets.

Think about it: an intelligent, ferocious and efficient super-organism composed of countless horrifying creatures mauling, lacerating, devouring and consuming everything on their way.
Imagine the terror of the Adeptus Mechanicus researchers on Tyran (the first imperial world to fall in front of the Great Devourer) who watched their formidable planet defenses being overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of the enemy: a soulless horde of alien beasts, every one of which is just an expendable pawn.
You can't negotiate with them: you can only resist or be assimilated. The survival of the fittest at its best.
That's why Tyranids are by far the most disturbing creatures of the WH40k universe.

I do think you have a good point,...

but i loathe a Daemon who corrupts, twists your mind and changes your shape slowly from the inside more!

Personally, I don't think a chaotic possession should be that bad, at least for the possessed. In a repressive dictatorship (as the Imperium is), Chaos may be a seductive relief for the people who don't fit well in the system. It must be satisfying to tell the Emperor to get lost, for once. And in addition to that, you gain a whole bunch of awesome super powers (like making people's head explode) and may also grow fangs, claws and a beautiful pair of horns. And if you pledge allegiance to Slaanesh, you may even grow something else... Chaos is cool
Tyranids just eat you alive. And they really freak me out.

 Zaqqaz wrote:

 Waaghboss Grobnub wrote:

 Zaqqaz wrote:
The Tyranids bio-fleets.

Think about it: an intelligent, ferocious and efficient super-organism composed of countless horrifying creatures mauling, lacerating, devouring and consuming everything on their way.
Imagine the terror of the Adeptus Mechanicus researchers on Tyran (the first imperial world to fall in front of the Great Devourer) who watched their formidable planet defenses being overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of the enemy: a soulless horde of alien beasts, every one of which is just an expendable pawn.
You can't negotiate with them: you can only resist or be assimilated. The survival of the fittest at its best.
That's why Tyranids are by far the most disturbing creatures of the WH40k universe.

I do think you have a good point,...

but i loathe a Daemon who corrupts, twists your mind and changes your shape slowly from the inside more!

Personally, I don't think a chaotic possession should be that bad, at least for the possessed. In a repressive dictatorship (as the Imperium is), Chaos may be a seductive relief for the people who don't fit well in the system. It must be satisfying to tell the Emperor to get lost, for once. And in addition to that, you gain a whole bunch of awesome super powers (like making people's head explode) and may also grow fangs, claws and a beautiful pair of horns. And if you pledge allegiance to Slaanesh, you may even grow something else... Chaos is cool
Tyranids just eat you alive. And they really freak me out.

Or, you body and soul could be teared apart and transformed into a warp portal to start a Daemonic incursion.

And they are far worse things than death, as both Chaos and the DE has show us.

Almost anything having to do with Slaanesh.

The lack of Duct Tape really bugs me....

Orks have it, and use it all the time

What disturbs me most is that Slanesh is not pictured correctly, The lord of pleasure is censored! they should be worse than the DE, i imagine scenes from Hellraiser and Event Horizon when extreme Slanesh converts are doing their "thing".
Gwar to the power infinite, Guro maximus.

Glimpses are shown in Fulgrim, but it is to PG in my book, or maybe i am just disturbed, muwhahaahah!

The most disturbing about 40k is that it is a universe that is centered around mass carnage, bloodlust, hedonism, devil worship, and every other horrible thing imaginable on a galactic scale, and at the end of the day every Black Library book ends with an advertisement that says "Now you can be a part of the action!" and it is advertising to 14 old kids. Now that I think about it it isn't just the most disturbing but the most depressing as I mostly see adults playing the game. :/

The glorification of stupidity and the inability of man to get better.

Are humans dumb enough to pray to a toaster to make it work? Sadly, yes we are.

I would say the lack of respect towards human life. Thousands are sacrificed to the god/ Emperor and the guard are always being thrown into a meat grinder. What ever happened to no man left behind? Well you can't save a man if he's a pile of mush under some huge vehicle of death.

That maybe the Emperor of Mankind bargained with the primordial anihalator for the secrets to create the primarchs..chilling ramifications.

 Musashi363 wrote:
That maybe the Emperor of Mankind bargained with the primordial anihalator for the secrets to create the primarchs..chilling ramifications.

Wait... What?

Citation needed!

Lucarikx

 Lucarikx wrote:

 Musashi363 wrote:
That maybe the Emperor of Mankind bargained with the primordial anihalator for the secrets to create the primarchs..chilling ramifications.

Wait... What?

Citation needed!

Lucarikx

In the first heretic when Argel Tal travells into the warp, he is shown "proof" that the emperor bargained with the primordial annihilator by a daemon. But as with all daemons we don't realy know if this is the truth or a lie

 Dantioch wrote:

 Lucarikx wrote:

 Musashi363 wrote:
That maybe the Emperor of Mankind bargained with the primordial anihalator for the secrets to create the primarchs..chilling ramifications.

Wait... What?

Citation needed!

Lucarikx

In the first heretic when Argel Tal travells into the warp, he is shown "proof" that the emperor bargained with the primordial annihilator by a daemon. But as with all daemons we don't realy know if this is the truth or a lie

I believe "A Thousand Sons" also deals with this and shows the magic wards on the Primarch's incubators. It somewhat confuses and justifies what he does later. (In his mind.) That wasn't a vision, he was actually there to see it.

For me, the idea that the Emperor is basically another chaos god. He even has his own demon princes in the form of living saints and such like St. Celestine. You can kill/banish her but she'll just keep coming back in a "miraculous" manner.

 Ascalam wrote:
That SM always get to win.

Phyrric victory sometimes, but with all the threats out there ...

You should read the Iron Warriors novels.

Might just. Haven't read them yet

Arco flagelation, and lucius the eternal creep me out the most.

Servitors. In Ravenor, Gideon Ravenor describes the thoughts of a servitor he melds with telepathically. Sad. And horrific.

After reading the HH book mechanicum, the depths that the mechanicum has fallen to in the ten thousand years since the emperor ascended to the golden throne it just seems like any and all innovation has ceased, end though before the heresy innovation strictly regulated but atleast it was still happening!

 Ninjacommando wrote:
I say Honsou takes the cake for the most disturbing/Evilest thing in the 40k universe.

he created the Daemonculaba which does the following:

The Daemonculaba process was a means by which to produce new Chaos Space Marines entailing a shocking myriad of cruelties including, among other things, skinning people alive and forcibly impregnating women via reverse c-sections with said skinned people.

Don't forget to throw the space marine geneseed in there.

 Zweischneid wrote:
Who shielded the Tau behind a millennia-long mega-warp storm, hyper-accelerated their evolution and technological capacities, and put them under (almost absolute) the gene-engineered command of the (suddenly appearing) Ethereals? Who? And Why?

Hactar?




Also,some DE victims, yesterday (escaped before they could get too far down the line).






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 Void__Dragon wrote:
I dunno, I have never been legitimately grossed out by 40k.

One moment that I did find shocking (Albeit in a way that just made me laugh uncontrollably) was in The Mirror Crack'd, where Fulgrim is being tortured by the highest ranking members of his legion. One jams a device into his fething penis, and the spike basically opens up like a sort of umbrella, and he manipulates it painfully, which makes Fulgrim practically orgasm several times, and then, when Fulgrim decides to break free of his restraints, he grabs the device, and rips his own pecker off, before shuddering, and saying that he was beginning to enjoy that.

I thought it was a choke pear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choke_pear_%28torture%29

Not much better, if truth be told.

 MWHistorian wrote:

 Dantioch wrote:

 Lucarikx wrote:

 Musashi363 wrote:
That maybe the Emperor of Mankind bargained with the primordial anihalator for the secrets to create the primarchs..chilling ramifications.

Wait... What?

Citation needed!

Lucarikx

In the first heretic when Argel Tal travells into the warp, he is shown "proof" that the emperor bargained with the primordial annihilator by a daemon. But as with all daemons we don't realy know if this is the truth or a lie

I believe "A Thousand Sons" also deals with this and shows the magic wards on the Primarch's incubators. It somewhat confuses and justifies what he does later. (In his mind.) That wasn't a vision, he was actually there to see it.

For me, the idea that the Emperor is basically another chaos god. He even has his own demon princes in the form of living saints and such like St. Celestine. You can kill/banish her but she'll just keep coming back in a "miraculous" manner.

It is also dealt with in Brotherhood of the Storm, where a Stormseer's psychic ritual involves him seeing manifestations of the four gods commanding him to drink from a cup and a figure of the Emperor silently imploring him not to (there is also a nice way to contrast the various psychic traditions of the Legions; I would imagine a Space Wolf would kick the cup over, a Thousand Son would drain it dry, where the Stormseer takes a single sip and politely sets the cup back down).

It is also addressed in the Primarchs, Fulgrim's story more specifically, where he describes himself and the other Primarchs as quasi-daemonic entities.

There are other examples that I can't recall off the top of my head.