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 Rotary wrote:
I just bought and painted 3 hive guard and at first look i prefer how my finecast ones look. But then again maybe thats me just kicking myself for buying something just before a release.

I've done the same. But I'll just keep them for my impalor guard, and use the new kit for the new weapon.

Looking for verification of a big rumor.

I have read on a couple of places online that because the Hobbit has not been much of a splash in the theaters that GW is bumping up the Tyranid release to December to take advantage of the holiday markets (as they are bigger sellers).

Has anyone heard anything from any reliable sources? I have heard this a few places but it has always been from second hand sources. Anyone know if there is any validity to this rumor or is this just wishful thinking some excited Tyranid fans?

The only reliable rumourmonger that I know of that has said anything about the releases of next month, said that next month will be for the two new 40k expansions. So I wouldn't count on 'Nids for December, but rather January (+ possibly February for a second wave).

There's certainly a rumour that some/all of Tyranids have been pushed forward to December

but the one we've had here was that it was because GW could not get the Smaug mini approved by New Line Cinema and without the centrepiece they've decided to push the hobbit stuff back

seeing the first of the new Tyranid minis also makes it more likely a December release is right as most leaks of photos like that turn out to come from the WD printing chain

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

seeing the first of the new Tyranid minis also makes it more likely a December release is right as most leaks of photos like that turn out to come from the WD printing chain

The Hive Guard photo looks like it's of a shrink-wrapped box, which makes things a little more fluid. We know GW will stock up regional warehouses well in advance of a launch, especially if there's a major holiday first. I don't think this rules out January.

looking at the new probe gun, it reminds me of a harpoon like gun. It looks when the gun fires and hits something, the long probe like thing enters the body/vehicle and the 3 short stumpy claws sink in and get a grip, then those blue sinewy things could act like a chain and it could haul the chosen victim towards the guard or hold it in place. Just imagine that, shooting a helturkey and there is a small chance it cannot move for a turn and can be blasted by every gun in the tyranid army... to much along the lines of wishlisting?

If we are in for Nidmass I'll be over the moon and can see all my money being blown, but if we have to wait for January, I'm not fused, I can wait a few weeks

As for the pics of the Hive Guard, they look fake to me.

First off they don't look like HG but Tyrant Guard. Second, it's what, Behemoth gun on a Kraken body?

Also look at the reflection. How come legs come in crystal clear, but the body, or where the gun should be reflected is blurred out.

Yes someone said on The Tyranid Hive when I made this comment, GW photo shops their own work, but if this was suppose to be the box art, it is horrible and looks fake.

I just call bull on the photo, not real in my opinion.

Davor wrote:
As for the pics of the Hive Guard, they look fake to me.

First off they don't look like HG but Tyrant Guard. Second, it's what, Behemoth gun on a Kraken body?

Also look at the reflection. How come legs come in crystal clear, but the body, or where the gun should be reflected is blurred out.

Yes someone said on The Tyranid Hive when I made this comment, GW photo shops their own work, but if this was suppose to be the box art, it is horrible and looks fake.

I just call bull on the photo, not real in my opinion.

Are you being sarcastic, or...?

Davor wrote:
As for the pics of the Hive Guard, they look fake to me.

First off they don't look like HG but Tyrant Guard. Second, it's what, Behemoth gun on a Kraken body?

Also look at the reflection. How come legs come in crystal clear, but the body, or where the gun should be reflected is blurred out.

Yes someone said on The Tyranid Hive when I made this comment, GW photo shops their own work, but if this was suppose to be the box art, it is horrible and looks fake.

I just call bull on the photo, not real in my opinion.

Well, they may look like Tyrant Guard, because it is likely a dual kit.

I don't know, I don't think we have seen pics this well done shopped before.

Also, the Red gun is what the current artwork is for leviathan. It is also how I have mine painted up, so no foul on that part.

I say they're real.

Davor wrote:
As for the pics of the Hive Guard, they look fake to me.

First off they don't look like HG but Tyrant Guard. Second, it's what, Behemoth gun on a Kraken body?

Also look at the reflection. How come legs come in crystal clear, but the body, or where the gun should be reflected is blurred out.

Yes someone said on The Tyranid Hive when I made this comment, GW photo shops their own work, but if this was suppose to be the box art, it is horrible and looks fake.

I just call bull on the photo, not real in my opinion.

Right.....

Davor wrote:
As for the pics of the Hive Guard, they look fake to me.
First off they don't look like HG but Tyrant Guard. Second, it's what, Behemoth gun on a Kraken body?
Also look at the reflection. How come legs come in crystal clear, but the body, or where the gun should be reflected is blurred out.

1) Welcome to the joy of GW's multiuse kits. Always a compromise and never perfection.
2) GW have been using that red gun on the Leviathan scheme for a while now. I don't like it either but it's a thing, apparently.
3) Crappy camera phone image.

Not sure how that picture would be faked.. Looks pretty much like a shrink wrapped box that has had its picture taken.

I'm sorta disappointed that GW isn't trying to sell us any WFB towers for Christmas.. we certainly need more of those

If you're talking at each other, rather than about what rumors we have, you're probably off-topic, and subject to deletion and/or sanction as necessary. Only warning.

 Kirasu wrote:
Not sure how that picture would be faked.. Looks pretty much like a shrink wrapped box that has had its picture taken.

I'm sorta disappointed that GW isn't trying to sell us any WFB towers for Christmas.. we certainly need more of those

And skulls, we always need more Christmas skulls.

Time scale wise, are we approaching the two week mark before the new White Dwarf?

it looks to me that you are going to cry just because i dont like em... no i am not trolling...just try to be calm... power of your computer for a change a take nap or go drink a coffe with some friends so you chill out a bit... to much computer time makes you trolling for no aparent reason... next time ill report you..

He does have a point though. It happens at every single release of both WHFB and WH40K, blurry pics get released, people form opinions about them, and then when they see the full pictures they change their mind. It may not be in your case, but this does happen over, and over, and over again. It is generally better to get the full picture before you snap to judgement though, don't you agree? The time I most remember this happening to me was the Nurgle Plague flys.

They look okay to me, even in a blurry pic... just went over to GW to look at the current models and I have to say to my eye they look like a nice improvement on several fronts. I particularly like the way they have done the hands, I don't know why if I was pressed to answer, but something about them just works. Much better than the previous iteration on the limbs for me.

I think they're pretty tight. Dunno about wanting them on 50mm bases though. /shrug, haters gonna hate. Bring the bugs!

Let's discuss - assuming the new models come on 50 mm bases, would you re-base your existing models? This includes hive guard, warriors, any of the medium bugs.

Urgh feth no...

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Let's discuss - assuming the new models come on 50 mm bases, would you re-base your existing models? This includes hive guard, warriors, any of the medium bugs.

That would be incredibly annoying... I would say no. However, I don't mind buying some Plastic Hive/Tyrant Guard. My metal guns tend to break off way to often.

Yes, because I play in tournaments, and having them WYSIWIG with the new models would save alot of hassle in explaination and in the rare case some one is a complete cock, stop the argument I was modelling for advantage.

Also the models look great, the simian hands are alot better than the clubs they used to have, so now I don't wonder why they dont have rending CC attacks like the tyrant guard who had the same hands.

 gigasnail wrote:
I think they're pretty tight. Dunno about wanting them on 50mm bases though. /shrug, haters gonna hate. Bring the bugs!

The Hive Guard and even Tyrant Guard barely fit on the 40mm bases anyways. Terminators, Wraithguard, and other 40mm-based models tend to fit entirely within their base. 50mm doesn't seem like too much of a problem, and it further reinforces that they're T6 and quite different from the T4 Warriors, Zoanthropes, etc.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Let's discuss - assuming the new models come on 50 mm bases, would you re-base your existing models? This includes hive guard, warriors, any of the medium bugs.

In a heartbeat.

I am currently using my own 8 Converted Hive guard and i'm not too keen on their looks...

So I am looking forward to buying 3 boxes of these for 9 Hive Guard

I have 3 metal Tyrant Guard as well but I love their models.


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Mind you... The Unit size might change...

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Let's discuss - assuming the new models come on 50 mm bases, would you re-base your existing models? This includes hive guard, warriors, any of the medium bugs.

That's possibly where we're headed. If the finecast medium bugs all get new plastic kits alongside a new Warrior/Shrike box, they'd only need to rebox Raveners with larger bases. It's feasible. I figure that's probably 3 dozen-ish models to rebase in my collection, not counting the really old stuff? Hoo boy.

Metal HG are a little unsteady on the 40mm bases anyway, so I can deal. Rebasing all my Warriors, Raveners, Lictors, Zoeys, etc. would be a bigger pain.

Are 50mm bases even going to be available for players to retrofit their bugs, is another question here.

Warriors and Raveners fit on 40mm bases just fine. There's no need to assume that just because the barely-fitting Hive Guard are being upgraded to 50mm, that everything else is.

The sky isn't falling.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Are 50mm bases even going to be available for players to retrofit their bugs, is another question here.

Maybe not directly from Gw, but you can easily find 50mm round black plastic shapes with 1mm elevation easily from ebay.

After taking another look at it, I'm going to have to say that the image is clearly photoshopped, you can see this by looking at the reflections of the minis, notice how they suddenly fade out? BUT, that doesn't necessarily mean that the models are fake... only that some part of the image is edited.

 Absolutionis wrote:
Warriors and Raveners fit on 40mm bases just fine. There's no need to assume that just because the barely-fitting Hive Guard are being upgraded to 50mm, that everything else is.

The sky isn't falling.

And I didn't claim that it was. An across-the-board change is, however, a realistic possibility if all but one medium bug receives a new kit. I'd also suggest that Venomthropes could benefit from a larger base, and that Lictors and Warriors, although not too large for 40mm, wouldn't be too small for 50mm.

In 3rd edition Tyrants came on 40mm bases (which looked ridiculous). There's nothing sacred about base sizes...they'll change them if they think it's warranted.