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I'd hope for a $50-$60 warrior/HG box....but with centurions being $78 American for 3, well, I wouldn't rule that out for the Hive Guard anyways.

Luckily I made it through 5th using my old second/third edition metal venom cannon warriors as my Hive Guard, and I don't own any Tyrant guard as I haven't been into walking tyrants since they've been able to purchase wings in third edition. So this box is looking like a sure-fire purchase for me.

Special edition book, most likely in the $80 range again; maybe the harpy kit in the first wave, another $80ish. Coincidentally, I also just became employed. Goodbye Christmas savings.

December and January waves. This release will be too big for one month.

Book + 3-4 kits and a clamshell or two.
3 kits plus another couple shells for January. If we are seriously going to see ~everything ported to plastic, plus a couple of new bugs, there's no way they squeeze that in all at once.

DEC 7TH HHHHNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG.

*cough*

Completely new warriors don't seem likely to me, but recut sprues (to remove any need for the separate old 'heavy weapon' sprue, and with a few brand new weapon/biomorph bits added for some new rules options), that I can certainly believe.

Fingers crossed for a Merry Nidmas after all...

Repost this out of the link from Faeit212 so people can see it...

"Lictors are lurking, gene-stealers have infiltrated the bureaucracy, and we may be in for a serious infestation. Tyranids. Anyone got the number of the nearest Chapter of Space Marines?

I have been getting reports now, three in fact, that are all saying Tyranids are indeed set for a Dec 7th release date. If this is the case, its going to be a huge release. With the many different confirmations I am finally coming around now.

Please remember that although I am getting these, these are still rumors. I am just reporting what I am hearing. Here are two of them.

via anonymous sources on Faeit 212
the info hes recieving from distributors and GW is that tyranids are being shipped for Dec 7th release.

Just got the confirmation of tyranids for dec!Lictors are lurking, gene-stealers have infiltrated the bureaucracy, and we may be in for a serious infestation. Tyranids. Anyone got the number of the nearest Chapter of Space Marines?

I have been getting reports now, three in fact, that are all saying Tyranids are indeed set for a Dec 7th release date. If this is the case, its going to be a huge release. With the many different confirmations I am finally coming around now.

Please remember that although I am getting these, these are still rumors. I am just reporting what I am hearing. Here are two of them.

via anonymous sources on Faeit 212
the info hes recieving from distributors and GW is that tyranids are being shipped for Dec 7th release.

Just got the confirmation of tyranids for dec!

The annoying thing is that someone knows what's coming, has the WD, yet isn't posting the pics.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
The annoying thing is that someone knows what's coming, has the WD, yet isn't posting the pics.

Yeah, they are called Games Workshop.

Yep. GW sure did post that pic earlier.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Yep. GW sure did post that pic earlier.

I am aware of this, I was being flippant.

 Kroothawk wrote:
First Tyranid release pic leaked to the Internet:

Okay, so the middle one is holding an impaler cannon.

For some reason, I get the impression that the one on the left is some sort of "spine" and the claws/spikes around it are like some sort of tesla antenna. I'm kind of hoping its some sort of psychic cannon. However, the blue feed lines suggest some sort of plasma weapon...

i really hote nids with the new codex get very cheap... i for once want to play a super swarm army!!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:


Yep. GW sure did post that pic earlier.

Maybe. Might stop a few people spending money on any Xenomorph style boardgames just before Crimo...

Has anybody seen my tinfoil hat, btw? I think they may have taken it.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Short caveat on what Natfka writes on Tyranids:
On Warseer, Kaelarr claims that those Hive Guard are on 60mm bases (which is obviously wrong given the pic) and that they are not a dual kit (unlikely). Natfka presents this as remarks on a new Warrior box.

Also, on Warseer people like Avian claim that BOLS never mentioned a possible Hive Guard kt and that therefore all BOLS rumours are dubious. First post of this thread proves that BOLS indeed predicted this kit 14th August:

BOLS wrote:Tyrant Guard and Hive Guard -Dual-build plastic kit. 3 models. All options for either unit.

Predicting the new weapon on 19th August:

Hiveguard: new weapon upgrade option (available to a handful of units) that grants skyfire with an "enhanced ability" to ground FMCs.

So no idea where this wrong assumption is coming from.

Yeah I have to admit I had initially missed those - was scrolling through pretty fast to see if the hive guard pic supported any other release rumours- but they where 2 single lines , the kit one was ion a short post about a few rules, the weapon option was somewhere else. I was sure there was a rumour with a set of releases that named Hiveguard and Zoes as 2 of the kits alongside a bunch of others.
I must be catching Avian's pessimism as I wasn't sure those two lines weren't just educated guesses- I remember seeing the first pics of the first hive guard and thinking GW where setting them as a dual kit with tyrant guard. Same with Zoes and Venomthropes.. mind you still no conformation these are dual kits [it would be a bit daft if they weren't..]

Hoping the warrior kit has shrike/prime options -I've got about 20 warriors but I'd still like the excuse to get more!

So is that Hive Guard on the left holding the new weapon? Is that the skyfire weapon? It looks like either some sort of lightning gun or perhaps the central bit is fired and is like a taser.

I have to say I find the forearms a bit strange, almost too delicate. They look like they are either knuckle walking or they are spike-like and going into the ground for bracing.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Short caveat on what Natfka writes on Tyranids:
On Warseer, Kaelarr claims that those Hive Guard are on 60mm bases (which is obviously wrong given the pic) and that they are not a dual kit (unlikely). Natfka presents this as remarks on a new Warrior box.

Also, on Warseer people like Avian claim that BOLS never mentioned a possible Hive Guard kt and that therefore all BOLS rumours are dubious.

Eh? If you go back and re-read my post, what I actually said was that ONLY BoLS mentioned new Hiveguard minis, while everyone else has neglected to mention them. That doesn't mean that the BoLS rumours are *true*, since they also mention things we have no knowledge of ( the Tyrant Guard alternative build and the skyfire gun), but it does cast some doubts on the reliability of everyone else.

I've my CC ready! Lets Nom Nom Nom!

I'm not sure whether to be upset or not over new Hive Guard in boxes of 3. On one hand, they look amazing and plastic(!). On the other they look different to the current ones I have 2 of in metal and I was hoping for a third that makes the brood have the same look, but money is very tight right now :(. Decisions, decisions.

 Deadshot wrote:
I'm not sure whether to be upset or not over new Hive Guard in boxes of 3. On one hand, they look amazing and plastic(!). On the other they look different to the current ones I have 2 of in metal and I was hoping for a third that makes the brood have the same look, but money is very tight right now :(. Decisions, decisions.

No worries Ebay is bound to have the old ones for a long while.

Iracundus wrote:So is that Hive Guard on the left holding the new weapon? Is that the skyfire weapon? It looks like either some sort of lightning gun or perhaps the central bit is fired and is like a taser.

I have to say I find the forearms a bit strange, almost too delicate. They look like they are either knuckle walking or they are spike-like and going into the ground for bracing.

Tyranids have always been long and lean in the artwork depictions. It's the limitations of the sculpts that saw Tyranids with blocky fists, stunty arms, and short limbs throughout history. This is a welcome change. Beefier is definitely not better with Tyranids; besides, the long knuckly limbs are a bit creepier looking.

So....

Its Saturday....

I have yet to see new sexy warriors :(

I honestly hope there is no new Warriors. I just finished 3 of the old ones to compliment the 3 I've had for years.

That being said, I can't imagine them being totally different. I think 40k has reached that sweet spot where models have a definitive look and GW can't change it too much. In particular the human races but also races like Tau, Eldar and Necrons. Nids on the other hand are more readily mutable but still, I'd hate to see the looks change, particularly classics like the Carnifex and Warriors we've had since 4th Ed.

Yeah...

I like the warriors and the only way i'd get behind a reboxing of them, is if they made them a Dual Kit with Shrikes...

Or if they made them 1 per box like a broadside...

 Deadshot wrote:
I honestly hope there is no new Warriors. I just finished 3 of the old ones to compliment the 3 I've had for years.

That being said, I can't imagine them being totally different. I think 40k has reached that sweet spot where models have a definitive look and GW can't change it too much. In particular the human races but also races like Tau, Eldar and Necrons. Nids on the other hand are more readily mutable but still, I'd hate to see the looks change, particularly classics like the Carnifex and Warriors we've had since 4th Ed.

The Khornemower, Helldrake and Tonka-Toy big smashy thing for the Chaos Space Marines would beg to disagree on them not being prepared to change the look of factions in a big way

The Khornemower is based off an OLD OLD Model though


The Helturkey and Mechazoid Dinosaur though... I'll give you that mess...

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
I honestly hope there is no new Warriors. I just finished 3 of the old ones to compliment the 3 I've had for years.

That being said, I can't imagine them being totally different. I think 40k has reached that sweet spot where models have a definitive look and GW can't change it too much. In particular the human races but also races like Tau, Eldar and Necrons. Nids on the other hand are more readily mutable but still, I'd hate to see the looks change, particularly classics like the Carnifex and Warriors we've had since 4th Ed.

The Khornemower, Helldrake and Tonka-Toy big smashy thing for the Chaos Space Marines would beg to disagree on them not being prepared to change the look of factions in a big way

Those were new models though, and vehicles none the less which don't really impact the look of the infantry. I just meant in terms of the look of existing kits. The new Hive Guard look pretty similar to the old ones with just minor differences to the original metal design that's out now.

Avian wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Short caveat on what Natfka writes on Tyranids:
On Warseer, Kaelarr claims that those Hive Guard are on 60mm bases (which is obviously wrong given the pic) and that they are not a dual kit (unlikely). Natfka presents this as remarks on a new Warrior box.

Also, on Warseer people like Avian claim that BOLS never mentioned a possible Hive Guard kt and that therefore all BOLS rumours are dubious.

Eh? If you go back and re-read my post, what I actually said was that ONLY BoLS mentioned new Hiveguard minis, while everyone else has neglected to mention them. That doesn't mean that the BoLS rumours are *true*, since they also mention things we have no knowledge of ( the Tyrant Guard alternative build and the skyfire gun), but it does cast some doubts on the reliability of everyone else.

Well, here it is, and Larry Vela is one of the two BOLS rumour posters, responsible for the blog, Bigred for the forum:

Avian over at Warseer wrote:I find it hilarious that this Larry Vela guy posted such a huge pile of stuff and completely missed the one unit we now *know* is going to show up.

Doesn't make me too optimistic about the rest of his "rumours".

And here Larry Vela's posting about the Hive Guard kit:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2013/08/40k-rumors-hivemind-is-coming.html

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
I honestly hope there is no new Warriors. I just finished 3 of the old ones to compliment the 3 I've had for years.

That being said, I can't imagine them being totally different. I think 40k has reached that sweet spot where models have a definitive look and GW can't change it too much. In particular the human races but also races like Tau, Eldar and Necrons. Nids on the other hand are more readily mutable but still, I'd hate to see the looks change, particularly classics like the Carnifex and Warriors we've had since 4th Ed.

The Khornemower, Helldrake and Tonka-Toy big smashy thing for the Chaos Space Marines would beg to disagree on them not being prepared to change the look of factions in a big way

The Khornemower was based off of an old EPIC model though. It really wasn't new at all.

Sikamikanic0 wrote:
i really hote nids with the new codex get very cheap... i for once want to play a super swarm army!!

hah your funny. GW reducing their prices is a blasphemy to the emprah

Sikamikanic0 wrote:
i really hote nids with the new codex get very cheap... i for once want to play a super swarm army!!

You have no idea what company we are dealing with do you?GAMESWORKSHOP.And to them cheap/decrease=HERESY BLAM!Unless your talking about points.Decrease in points =More being sold.