Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

 Roci wrote:
Now I hate the Hobbit... I'll spend all my nid money before they come out now....

The hobbit hasent got anything since august. No battle report since last year. NO SUPPORT! We deserve the dec issue!! You'll get your nids later!!!!!! We won't get nothing good till next December!!! That's after this dec.

We shall see, i am still holding out hope. and if i'm wrong, then i just have to wait a month. ultimately, it's a month.

I just need to make sure my current 1850 pt army is completely painted by Jan to allow me time to add in the new units/switch units around for tourneys in the spring.

Question- why wouldn't they release the Hobbit AND Tyranids in December? is there really that much overlap in the customer base that it would hurt sales? or is it a manufacturing capacity thing?

Until we see the cover it's still up in the air - having said that, this news disheartens me.

Would be kinda glad if nids aren't until January. Gives me another month to save up!

dakkajet wrote:

 Roci wrote:
Now I hate the Hobbit... I'll spend all my nid money before they come out now....

The hobbit hasent got anything since august. No battle report since last year. NO SUPPORT! We deserve the dec issue!! You'll get your nids later!!!!!! We won't get nothing good till next December!!! That's after this dec.

They don't "deserve" anything. It's a game that never sold well and wasn't supported by consumers. That's why GW doesn't pump it any harder. Why waste resources on a product that will never move? I promise you more people would complain if GW wasted website space and White Dwarf space trying to push The Hobbit harder instead of interesting products.

Smart businesses milk their cash cows.

All that aside, Tyranids in January was the original, changed, original, modified, and back again rumor.

yeah and we had multiple "solid source" confirmations for both November and for December so we'll just roll with it.

Naftka said he had multiple confirmations for December as late as two days ago. I know Naftka's track record isn't stellar but i think "multiple solid sources" is about as iron clad as he can get.

We shall find out soon! in the meantime, i am feverishly painting!

BeeCee wrote:
yeah and we had multiple "solid source" confirmations for both November and for December so we'll just roll with it.

Naftka said he had multiple confirmations for December as late as two days ago. I know Naftka's track record isn't stellar but i think "multiple solid sources" is about as iron clad as he can get.

We shall find out soon! in the meantime, i am feverishly painting!

Natfka's multiple solid sources are usually bunk.

Here's the last couple of 'solid' rumors I have listed for him. Legion supplements, Kroot Supplement, Expanded Empire supplement and a proven incorrect Ravenguard supplement. Still possible, but unlikely.

Supplements - July 2013
via an anonymous and solid source on Faeit 212
World Eaters, Thousand Sons, Death Guard and Emperor's Children are getting supplements eventually. PENDING

The elite unit entries in the core codex don't necessarily reflect World Eaters, just Khorne Berserkers, for example. PENDING

The Legion lists will have unit entries for Berserker/Plague/Rubric/Noise Terminators, unique warlord traits, and some fun wargear stuff. PENDING

Tau have two more books; one for kroot and one for "the rest" of the expanded empire. PENDING

Release Schedule - Jul 2013
via an anonymous (and solid) source on Faeit 212
As currently planned, the Ravenguard supplement will be after the 6th edition space marine book (which will be soon) and will coincide with forgeworld's HH Book 3, Massacre pt 2. FALSE

In the coming months though we are going to be smothered (pleasantly) in space marine goodies, with every other or every third month releasing a space marine supplement, after the main book comes out. PENDING

These releases will be paired with alongside a Xenos they were famous for fighting.
i.e. Tyranids book month A, Ultramarine Supplement month B. Ork codex month C, Crimson Fist supplement month D, etc. (this is not an accurate release schedule, just to illustrate my point) PENDING



Automatically Appended Next Post:
Here's the only 'Solid source' we have for Nids.

MajorWesJanson wrote:Tau are next, then Eldar. Sisters, Templars, Orks, and probably Nids need books before IG does.

75hastings69 wrote:Not quite, remove sisters & Templars...... replace with SM & IG....... Although the order of them might be mixed up a bit

I was under the impression it was Tau, Eldar, Orks, SM, Nids, then Guard?

75hastings69 wrote:Move the orks

Either way it's just a month, that is the good news.

you are probably right Pretre, the facts don't lie. But i am still holding out some hope and ultimately whether it's Dec. or Jan., i still have a crap pile of Tyranids to paint (some of them i bought from you!)

BeeCee wrote:
Either way it's just a month, that is the good news.

you are probably right Pretre, the facts don't lie. But i am still holding out some hope and ultimately whether it's Dec. or Jan., i still have a crap pile of Tyranids to paint (some of them i bought from you!)

Curse me and my mercantilism!

Aww, found a 'solid source' on Black Templars getting their own dex. lol

I get it! no need to pile it on, you don't need to crush my dreams, let GW do it when we see the WD with no Tyranids.

BeeCee wrote:
I get it! no need to pile it on, you don't need to crush my dreams, let GW do it when we see the WD with no Tyranids.

/hugs

You'll get your bugs soon. No worries.

 brassangel wrote:

dakkajet wrote:

 Roci wrote:
Now I hate the Hobbit... I'll spend all my nid money before they come out now....

The hobbit hasent got anything since august. No battle report since last year. NO SUPPORT! We deserve the dec issue!! You'll get your nids later!!!!!! We won't get nothing good till next December!!! That's after this dec.

They don't "deserve" anything. It's a game that never sold well and wasn't supported by consumers. That's why GW doesn't pump it any harder. Why waste resources on a product that will never move? I promise you more people would complain if GW wasted website space and White Dwarf space trying to push The Hobbit harder instead of interesting products.

Well I wonder does GW ignoring it contribute to low sales.And I don't see how wraitlord but BIGGER or space marines inside space marines are more interesting then the hobbit.ARRRGH!MUST...STOP...TALKING ABOUT ..HOBBIT!Although we hobbit fans are getting our battle report in December.Cause If we don't I'm going to RAEGE so hard I'll be inducted into the angry marines...and we deserve it.If 40k was shunned for a year I have a feeling SOMEONE would feel they deserved a battle report.

Da krimson barun wrote:

 brassangel wrote:

dakkajet wrote:

 Roci wrote:
Now I hate the Hobbit... I'll spend all my nid money before they come out now....

The hobbit hasent got anything since august. No battle report since last year. NO SUPPORT! We deserve the dec issue!! You'll get your nids later!!!!!! We won't get nothing good till next December!!! That's after this dec.

They don't "deserve" anything. It's a game that never sold well and wasn't supported by consumers. That's why GW doesn't pump it any harder. Why waste resources on a product that will never move? I promise you more people would complain if GW wasted website space and White Dwarf space trying to push The Hobbit harder instead of interesting products.

Well I wonder does GW ignoring it contribute to low sales.And I don't see how wraitlord but BIGGER or space marines inside space marines are more interesting then the hobbit.ARRRGH!MUST...STOP...TALKING ABOUT ..HOBBIT!Although we hobbit fans are getting our battle report in December.Cause If we don't I'm going to RAEGE so hard I'll be inducted into the angry marines...and we deserve it.If 40k was shunned for a year I have a feeling SOMEONE would feel they deserved a battle report.

The Hobbit never sold well DESPITE getting lots of advertisement up front, and a release alongside the movie (when the buzz was greatest). That was customers choosing to open their wallets elsewhere, not GW "refusing" to promote the game. All the market analysts had to do was see a dead game and cut their losses early. The game was in the red from the get go and has never turned them a profit. They made the mistake of riding LotR (which sold much more than The Hobbit) for far too long, and the bubble burst. This is GW learning from their mistakes. They tested the waters, The Hobbit didn't move, so it's time to do as little as possible with it.

IT IS NOT AND WILL NEVER BE A CORE GAME. It will never be as big as Warhammer Fantasy, and that game is struggling right now.

If 40k was "shunned" for a year, GW would be out of business. Plain and simple. The reason? 40k is huge. The Hobbit is not, and never will be. Even if the rules were the best thing ever, the accompanying fluff and model releases are limited. 40k needs rapid releases and lots of content just to keep up with consumer demand. The Hobbit can go a year without major releases and there are about 4 people in the world saying anything about it. Most table top gamers don't care.

ON TOPIC: Tyranids in January blah blah blah.

 brassangel wrote:
The Hobbit never sold well DESPITE getting lots of advertisement up front, and a release alongside the movie (when the buzz was greatest).

Can't remember seeing any advertising in movie theatres, on TV, in newspapers or magazines outside WD.
Only marketing was: "Double the prices for everything". Didn't work like planned.
In Germany, the only source for rules of Elven, Dwarf and Hobbit units (The Free Peoples) is OOP with no plans for a reprint or a download option (remember: no unit summary in the rulebook).
Now let's celebrate the anniversary of the limited edition starter box

What advertisement?

 dakkajet wrote:

 Roci wrote:
Now I hate the Hobbit... I'll spend all my nid money before they come out now....

The hobbit hasent got anything since august. No battle report since last year. NO SUPPORT! We deserve the dec issue!! You'll get your nids later!!!!!! We won't get nothing good till next December!!! That's after this dec.

Why can't they both come out in December? November has had two supplemental codex releases and the tempest fire base. I would not be surprised if something else is announced on Saturday.

Great no tyranids for Christmas I will be a sad panda since that was all I asked Santa for was tyranids............. :(

I could see the hobbit getting a big boost December. I think releasing it with the amazing looking movie would make since.

Zookie wrote:

 dakkajet wrote:

 Roci wrote:
Now I hate the Hobbit... I'll spend all my nid money before they come out now....

The hobbit hasent got anything since august. No battle report since last year. NO SUPPORT! We deserve the dec issue!! You'll get your nids later!!!!!! We won't get nothing good till next December!!! That's after this dec.

Why can't they both come out in December? November has had two supplemental codex releases and the tempest fire base. I would not be surprised if something else is announced on Saturday.

Well if that happens we all know wich will get the battle report.... (nids)

 dakkajet wrote:

Zookie wrote:

 dakkajet wrote:

 Roci wrote:
Now I hate the Hobbit... I'll spend all my nid money before they come out now....

The hobbit hasent got anything since august. No battle report since last year. NO SUPPORT! We deserve the dec issue!! You'll get your nids later!!!!!! We won't get nothing good till next December!!! That's after this dec.

Why can't they both come out in December? November has had two supplemental codex releases and the tempest fire base. I would not be surprised if something else is announced on Saturday.

Well if that happens we all know wich will get the battle report.... (nids)

And we all know which will make GW the most money....

Well if we do have Tyranids we should see a teaser tomorrow?

Do they do teasers for the Hobbit?

BeeCee wrote:
Well if we do have Tyranids we should see a teaser tomorrow?

Do they do teasers for the Hobbit?

Theoretically we should see a teaser this weekend, if there's going to be a teaser at all.

Until covers/inside of the White Dwarf begin to become available, we really don't have much else to bet on. I want a December release, but I also want to know if it's not going to happen so i can Lay Off the F5 key on Dakka, BoLS, and Faeit212.

 tetrisphreak wrote:

BeeCee wrote:
Well if we do have Tyranids we should see a teaser tomorrow?

Do they do teasers for the Hobbit?

Theoretically we should see a teaser this weekend, if there's going to be a teaser at all.

Until covers/inside of the White Dwarf begin to become available, we really don't have much else to bet on. I want a December release, but I also want to know if it's not going to happen so i can Lay Off the F5 key on Dakka, BoLS, and Faeit212.

I'd like to know if I can afford to make a last minute AvP Kickstarter pledge.

I kinda hope the teaser video is so vague that it could be either the Hobbit or Tyranids.

Well there hasn't been an update to the Blog yet today, traditionally they don't update on a Friday because they have some sort of announcement scheduled to drop after midnight (normally new pre orders)

It's a week early for normal pre orders, but there is a chance we will know more in a few hours.

 gorgon wrote:
I kinda hope the teaser video is so vague that it could be either the Hobbit or Tyranids.

This would be amazing.

A fire is coming... Followed by a great darkness...

*picture of a slitted eye*

Altruizine wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
I kinda hope the teaser video is so vague that it could be either the Hobbit or Tyranids.

This would be amazing.

A fire is coming... Followed by a great darkness...

*picture of a slitted eye*

I was thinking this the other day, they could easily make a few cross overs.

 azreal13 wrote:
Well there hasn't been an update to the Blog yet today, traditionally they don't update on a Friday because they have some sort of announcement scheduled to drop after midnight (normally new pre orders)

It's a week early for normal pre orders, but there is a chance we will know more in a few hours.

Wouldn't it be next Friday?

Shingen wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:
Well there hasn't been an update to the Blog yet today, traditionally they don't update on a Friday because they have some sort of announcement scheduled to drop after midnight (normally new pre orders)

It's a week early for normal pre orders, but there is a chance we will know more in a few hours.

Wouldn't it be next Friday?

Yep. But if the rumour of it being a major overhaul is true, and Dec essentially being a short month for most non-retail staff, and any sort of army release in Dec being unusual, some sort of deviation or extended pre-order period could be on the cards.

Just idle speculation on my part, but no update on a Friday normally means only one thing.

Psychic Blackout Friday...?