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I need help with my escalation list. I have a 2k list I feel I like very much. Just need ideas on how to escalate the list.

HQ
Nemesor Zandrekh w/ despairtek and destrotek
Overlord w/ Barge, Destrotek, Scythe, Phylactery, MSS, Semp weave, Phase Shifter

ELITES
Triarch Stalker w/ TL Gauss

TROOPS
9 Teslamortals w/ Night Scythe (Zandrekh here)

9 Gaussmortals W/ Night Scythe (destro or despairtek here)

11 Necron Warriors w/ Night Scythe and remaining teks here

FAST ATTACK
3 Tomb Blades w/ TL Gauss, Nebuloscopes, Shield Vanes

3 Wraiths w/ Shifter, Caster, Whips, and Beamer

HEAVY SUPPORT
Anni Barge w/ Gauss Cannon

Anni Barge w/ Gauss Cannon

Anni Barge w/ Gauss Cannon

What should I do for 2500 and 3000 points? Any ideas on current list?


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The silence concerns me... is the list really that bad?

Crivera777 wrote:
I need help with my escalation list. I have a 2k list I feel I like very much. Just need ideas on how to escalate to 2500 and 3000


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The silence concerns me... is the list really that bad?

Crivera777 wrote:

Crivera777 wrote:
I need help with my escalation list. I have a 2k list I feel I like very much. Just need ideas on how to escalate to 2500 and 3000


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The silence concerns me... is the list really that bad?

Played two games with this 2000 list... got worked by Space Wolves, but held my own against the new Tau gunline!

If you're taking the Triarch Stalker for long ranged anti-tank fire, you might as well just take 3 hvy destroyers, which are definitely the better option as they're nearly twink-linked anyway. If you're taking the triarch stalker in order to support warriors or immortals (which is what I recommend if you want to use the stalker) the heat ray is arguably better.

It's not necessary to put so many of your troops in night scythes because it can seriously hurt your ability to put out shots early on. The reason why you'll see competitive Necron flyer lists running 5 warriors per flyer is because of how cheap it is to spam them that way.

Immortals can foot slog fairly well if you take them with res orbs. Warrior can too in large groups; ghost arks give them plenty of durability if they don't.

I can't give advice from experience about tomb blades, other than that they really kick ass with particle beamers against tyranids. Only taking 3 of them in a 2k+ pts. game I figure they wouldn't make much of a difference and I would recommend either taking 5 or 6 of them with some upgrades, just 3 with no upgrades, or none at all.

Wraiths aren't particularly effective in groups smaller than 5 or 6, as they tend to die to small arms fire too easily, especially in larger games. If you happen to have more than 3, great, if you don't, I'd still bring them, but with fewer upgrades. I've never used the casters but I'm not sure they're worth the price as you'll probably only fire them once or twice throughout the entire game. Whip coils are good but it's not necessary to bring more than a few.

The Transdimensional Beamer is absolutely worthless and should not be an option for wraiths. In order to fire it at max BS you'd have to have stood still, prevents you from charging and it's only a 12" weapon. Do not take it.

Annihilation Barges should (in most circumstances) at least shimmy in the movement phase for the jink save, by doing this, the secondary weapon will always have to snap fire. Because of this, the Tesla Cannon is a much better option than the Gauss Cannon.

Not necessarily bad, may be just that Dakkamites were busy! Or the list was soo good there was no need for comments!

As you have now played with the list, the key question is did you enjoy playing with it (even though you lost). It is certainly not a normal interweb list.

Some suggestions/comments below - use as you see fit!

Crivera777 wrote:
I need help with my escalation list. I have a 2k list I feel I like very much. Just need ideas on how to escalate the list.

HQ
Nemesor Zandrekh w/ despairtek and destrotek
Overlord w/ Barge, Destrotek, Scythe, Phylactery, MSS, Semp weave, Phase Shifter

I think the overlord has a little too much kit. Definitely don't find Phylactery worth the points, and I often use MSS as a quasi invul save in combat instead of the shifter. However, as you are in a barge, maybe drop the weave and phylactery but keep the shifter.

Crivera777 wrote:

ELITES
Triarch Stalker w/ TL Gauss

Given the list, I'm not sure that you are getting full benefit from this. Tesla destructors are TL anyway, and a lot of your troops are in Scythes so at best can't shoot until T2. However, for escalation, probably get another one (but see comments re troops below)

Crivera777 wrote:

TROOPS
9 Teslamortals w/ Night Scythe (Zandrekh here)

9 Gaussmortals W/ Night Scythe (destro or despairtek here)

11 Necron Warriors w/ Night Scythe and remaining teks here

I think that too much of your shooting is off the board. Given the presence of the stalker, a more effective option would be to have teslamortals on foot. For anti high AV, stormtek would do nicely to replace the gauss. Put min warrior squads in the scythes for late game objectives grabbing.

Also note that destro teks should definitely be on the board, as they REALLY benefit from TL. When I run stalkers I generally load up on destroteks (plus a pulse, just to mess with the oppo head!) .

Crivera777 wrote:

FAST ATTACK
3 Tomb Blades w/ TL Gauss, Nebuloscopes, Shield Vanes

3 Wraiths w/ Shifter, Caster, Whips, and Beamer

Never used Blades, so won't comment other than this unit doesn't need a stalker either.

3 wraiths is too few for me, especially considering that you have comparatively few units on the board for the oppo to shoot at. 3 whips is overkill and ditch the Beamers.

Crivera777 wrote:

HEAVY SUPPORT
Anni Barge w/ Gauss Cannon

Anni Barge w/ Gauss Cannon

Anni Barge w/ Gauss Cannon

Can't go wrong here!

Crivera777 wrote:

What should I do for 2500 and 3000 points? Any ideas on current list?

Well, what models do you have left?

More wraiths and a DLord would help (assuming double FOC), plus another stalker (if you have more troops on the ground....otherwise I'd ditch the stalker entirely and get Deathmarks instead).
More AB can't hurt.



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ninja'd!

MarkCron wrote:

I think the overlord has a little too much kit. Definitely don't find Phylactery worth the points, and I often use MSS as a quasi invul save in combat instead of the shifter. However, as you are in a barge, maybe drop the weave and phylactery but keep the shifter.

I was digging the idea of an overlord that can hop off his barge and tie hard hitters up for a couple rounds. He managed to get 2 HQ kills including a warlord.

Crivera777 wrote:

ELITES
Triarch Stalker w/ TL Gauss

Given the list, I'm not sure that you are getting full benefit from this. Tesla destructors are TL anyway, and a lot of your troops are in Scythes so at best can't shoot until T2. However, for escalation, probably get another one (but see comments re troops below)

What about GK? Mordrak with terminators. Then you can get a dreadknight!

Re destroyers - heavy destroyers are the way to go..less than impressed with the normal ones.

MarkCron wrote:
What about GK? Mordrak with terminators. Then you can get a dreadknight!

Re destroyers - heavy destroyers are the way to go..less than impressed with the normal ones.

I was thinking about Blood Angels. You can do some pretty nasty things with their HQ and troop. I will look into GK though, don't have alot of experience with them.