WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Daniel Mandelbaum of Texas is still active with Resin Forge and/or BCS

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**Zweischneid**

Howard A Treesong wrote:
Your posts doesn't make sense. The evidence for BCS being Mandelbaum isn't based on any diagnosis, the evidence comes from elsewhere. I'm merely pointing out that every time we run into mandelbaum his behaviour is the same and has been consistently displaying all these traits for numerous years.

The "evidence" I've seen (the anonymous "confirmation" aside) is one based on "similarity of behaviour", and it is the same "behavioural patterns" that form the basis of this tele-diagnosis going on here.

I don't see how they are different.

If you link Website A to person B on the grounds of ... say .. a certain recurring dyslexic spelling error, this "evidence" is contradicted when you show that the same dyslexic spelling error is actually a moderately wide-spread condition many people suffer from, no? It would no longer be "unique" to only that one website and that one person you're trying to connect.

**Medium of Death**

Even if it isn't Daniel Mandelbaum, it's still a scam.

If you take time to read through the thread it is pretty obvious who it is. I'm not sure why you'd doubt Tom/the MODs, they didn't mislead us before.

**Rayvon**

Im still not certain its him but thanks a lot for the warning, its still a scam afterall.
Its nice to see that the community looks out for itself like this and one of the reasons I love being a part of it, even if it is a bit creepy sometimes !!

**Zweischneid**

Medium of Death wrote:
Even if it isn't Daniel Mandelbaum, it's still a scam.

If you take time to read through the thread it is pretty obvious who it is. I'm not sure why you'd doubt Tom/the MODs, they didn't mislead us before.

I don't doubt them. But it's not "evidence" either. Not sure why you fail to see the difference.

And I don't doubt that it is a scam, but that doesn't change that medical remote-internet diagnosis is also - frankly - very creepy.

There is no "either-or" involved in either of the above.

**Howard A Treesong**

It's pretty telling that as soon as this thread appears Mandelbaum starts harassing people like Alphariu over the phone.

**Medium of Death**

It's hardly a medical diagnosis. Posting behaviour, harassment and business practices being the same doesn't really have anything to do with his condition(if any).

Whether Mr. DM has a medical condition or not isn't of any value, recognising when you're dealing with him, or someone incredibly like him, is.

Not really sure how it's "creepy" either. It's not like they are actively seeking Mandelbaum out, he is exposed through his own actions.

**Zweischneid**

Medium of Death wrote:
It's hardly a medical diagnosis.

Yes this is.

I fully agree with the rest of your post.

**Inquisitor S.**

Tom's "confirmation" is still not validated by any other source or hard evidence.

What I can say is - as the person who originally alerted the actual creator and owner of the Titan and as a person thoroughly involved in the Resin Forge altercation - that I have seen diverse excerpts from conversations originating fom "Alan Welson" (no, I won't tell you the sources either, Mandelbaum is known to stalk and harass everybody he has contact details of). These excerpts make it very clear that "Alan Welson" was from the beginning extremely well informed about a lot of details of the Resin Forge case (him referencing them in the conversations). Which means that long before he actually opened the Facebook page and created "Black Crusade Studio" he was following very precisely the Resin Forge Case.

Apart from that in each previous "case" of Mandelbaumism there were always people who did not believe it was Mandelbaum, not even when they saw independent documents. So, well, it's really up to you

As for the question of medical diagnosis or not: I do not care at all. Even if it were a medical condition he would still be a scumbag. And yes, a lot of eyes are always watching out for scams of all kinds - just the ones of Mandelobaum are plainly speaking of so imbecile a nature that they are impossible to overlook or not notice. It's the exactly same modus operandi each frikkin' time.

**Zweischneid**

Inquisitor S. wrote:
Tom's "confirmation" is still not validated by any other source or hard evidence.

What I can say is - as the person who originally alerted the actual creator and owner of the Titan and as a person thoroughly involved in the Resin Forge altercation - that I have seen diverse excerpts from conversations originating fom "Alan Welson" (no, I won't tell you the sources either, Mandelbaum is known to stalk and harass everybody he has contact details of). These excerpts make it very clear that "Alan Welson" was from the beginning extremely well informed about a lot of details of the Resin Forge case (him referencing them in the conversations). Which means that long before he actually opened the Facebook page and created "Black Crusade Studio" he was following very precisely the Resin Forge Case.

Apart from that in each previous "case" of Mandelbaumism there were always people who did not believe it was Mandelbaum, not even when they saw independent documents. So, well, it's really up to you

Nobody doubts that the circumstantial evidence is pretty water-tight here (unless, the patterns actually mirror a more common clinical disorder that many people share, which would significantly weaken the value of inference based on similarities in behaviour).

But it is still circumstantial evidence based on inference, no?

**Inquisitor S.**

That would be up to a court to decide. Or in this case: up to everybody themselves. I myself had the suspicion since the "studio" was set up, for me subjectively it is confirmed. I will not try to force that on other people, I wil just add and comment points that in my opinion suport that view.

**gunslingerpro**

Zweischneid wrote:
Nobody doubts that the circumstantial evidence is pretty water-tight here (unless, the patterns actually mirror a more common clinical disorder that many people share, which would significantly weaken the value of inference based on similarities in behaviour).

But it is still circumstantial evidence based on inference, no?

I can't help but feeling, as you are the progenitor of this thread, that you are being unneccessarily contrarian for the sake of playing devil's advocate.

**Zweischneid**

gunslingerpro wrote:

I can't help but feeling, as you are the progenitor of this thread, that you are being unneccessarily contrarian for the sake of playing devil's advocate.

No.

I merely pointed out that the behaviour of some people in this thread was/is highly questionable.

For some reason, criticism of the people in this thread has been equaled to me trying to defend Daniel Mandelbaum/BCS in some way, which is not the case.

I fully agree with the conclusions reached in this thread about BCS and Daniel Mandelbaum (though more precise vocabulary on what is evidence and what is justified inference would be appreciated).

Completely unrelated to the BCS / Daniel Mandelbaum case however, some of the behaviour on display here by some Dakka members has also been rather repulsive (fueled, perhaps, be a self-perception of occupying some kind of "moral high ground").

I started this thread because pointing out questionable behaviour is the right thing to do. It is the exact same motivation that prompted my more recent posts in this thread.

**WarOne**

Zweischneid wrote:
Inquisitor S. wrote:
Tom's "confirmation" is still not validated by any other source or hard evidence.

What I can say is - as the person who originally alerted the actual creator and owner of the Titan and as a person thoroughly involved in the Resin Forge altercation - that I have seen diverse excerpts from conversations originating fom "Alan Welson" (no, I won't tell you the sources either, Mandelbaum is known to stalk and harass everybody he has contact details of). These excerpts make it very clear that "Alan Welson" was from the beginning extremely well informed about a lot of details of the Resin Forge case (him referencing them in the conversations). Which means that long before he actually opened the Facebook page and created "Black Crusade Studio" he was following very precisely the Resin Forge Case.

Apart from that in each previous "case" of Mandelbaumism there were always people who did not believe it was Mandelbaum, not even when they saw independent documents. So, well, it's really up to you

Nobody doubts that the circumstantial evidence is pretty water-tight here (unless, the patterns actually mirror a more common clinical disorder that many people share, which would significantly weaken the value of inference based on similarities in behaviour).

But it is still circumstantial evidence based on inference, no?

As a step in here, the Moderators of Dakka do keep tabs on things that affect the site and community as a whole. There is evidence they are keeping close to the vest of which some I believe is first hand contact of DM and his operations on multiple occasions over the years as he has morphed from one project to the next that he spearheads. The DCM Forums has a thread invested in keeping tabs on his activity to warn us ahead of time before we get duped again for example (of keeping tabs on things that affect the site and community as a whole).

**MajorTom11**

You will perhaps also consider the other Mods know the evidence source, have seen it, and back me up as well in terms of proof. Though I do not reveal the methods publicly, some rare few have seen it, though I realize that may still be lacking for you or vulnerable to conspiracy charges. But at least it is not just one person.

I was you Zwei, go ack to the Serpius thread and you will see I strongly took your exact same position with regards to circumstantial evidence. I very much understand your position and also the desire not to participate in an aggressive situation without being 100% sure.

That being said, I will also assume the moral high ground comment was directed at me too. You know what? Ya I think I have it. I have spent a great deal of time on ths because my friends were victimized, and because I have been 1st hand lied to by this manipulator. He is a thief and a liar.I am not. I do what I do so more people don't end up like so many other victims of his. This community is nothing but prey to him. I am not paid or otherwise rewarded for my efforts, I just do it because I believe it to be the right thing. So, if one asks if I have the moral high ground vs a criminal targeting my friends and community, I say yes.

Whether or not he has a mental illness is also immaterial for me, I am not able to diagnose or treat him, and the motivation for a crime does not erase te crime. We can only attempt to protect ourselves from his activities here, not intervene into his life beyond that. That is for the judicial and psychiatric system. At the end of the day, your wallet stolen for profit or your wallet stolen for compulsion is still a stolen wallet to you on your end.

**gunslingerpro**

Zweischneid wrote:

No.

I merely pointed out that the behaviour of some people in this thread was/is highly questionable.

For some reason, criticism of the people in this thread has been equaled to me trying to defend Daniel Mandelbaum/BCS in some way, which is not the case.

I fully agree with the conclusions reached in this thread about BCS and Daniel Mandelbaum (though more precise vocabulary on what is evidence and what is justified inference would be appreciated).

Completely unrelated to the BCS / Daniel Mandelbaum case however, some of the behaviour on display here by some Dakka members has also been rather repulsive (fueled, perhaps, be a self-perception of occupying some kind of "moral high ground").

I started this thread because pointing out questionable behaviour is the right thing to do. It is the exact same motivation that prompted my more recent posts in this thread.

Some of the behavior in the thread is questionable? Attributing a psychological disorder to a scammer with a known pattern is misguided and potentially offensive, but repulsive? Moral high ground? People feel morally superior to someone who consistentantly tries to scam people and that is shocking to you in some way?

You agree with the case made, consider it water tight, but then bring up that it is only circumstantial and that there is a fine line between evidence and inference.

"I'm convinced, he's the perpetrator. No actual evidence here though. Could possible be someone else." is essentially what you're saying. Does that statement not feel odd to you?

EDIT: Dammit Tom, why are you so quick on the draw

**mattyrm**

Zweischneid wrote:
Medium of Death wrote:
Even if it isn't Daniel Mandelbaum, it's still a scam.

If you take time to read through the thread it is pretty obvious who it is. I'm not sure why you'd doubt Tom/the MODs, they didn't mislead us before.

I don't doubt them. But it's not "evidence" either. Not sure why you fail to see the difference.

And I don't doubt that it is a scam, but that doesn't change that medical remote-internet diagnosis is also - frankly - very creepy.

There is no "either-or" involved in either of the above.

Like most soldiers, I like to take the direct approach.

While I agree with you that its a bit needless people playing amateur-Freud and making medical diagnoses and such, it's irrelevant to the fact that hes a thieving bugger, and a morally despicable one at that. I honestly put people that consistently and endlessly cheat hardworking people, pretty much on par with rapists. Its not like dodging a parking ticket, its fleecing innocent citizens of their hard earned coin, outright fraud, blatant theft. Its morally disgusting.

Ergo, while I agree with you that playing amateur psychologist is pretty needless, when we can just say "avoid this thieving bastard" surely so too is your, fence-sitting, "I entirely agree with you, but kind of don't really" attitude!

For the sake of keeping things black and white, you are in agreement with everyone else, so why concern yourself with it?

Whatever this guy is or isnt, hes a fething dirtbag. So lets just keep it that simple eh?

**Zweischneid**

mattyrm wrote:

Whatever this guy is or isnt, hes a fething dirtbag. So lets just keep it that simple eh?

I agree 100%. Not sure where I ever did disagree even in the slightest (or "sit on the fence") that BCS is a scam of the most despicable sort?

**Inquisitor S.**

I honestly put people that consistently and endlessly cheat hardworking people, pretty much on par with rapists.

This kind of statements probably falls into the category of over-the-top statements Zweischneid was referring to. No matter what: cheating somebody out of maximum a couple hundred bucks for toy soldiers - to me - is not even close to the bodily and psychological harm of rape, that's just ridiculous.

So maybe we should - as always recommended - stick to the collection of actual events and leave such emotional comments out. It's not helpful, it will just end up with Mandelbaum or Welson claiming (again) somebody sent him death threats and that's the reason he can't deliver those titans.

**Howard A Treesong**

Mandelbaum is a compulsive liar, cheat and thief. His stories are often hugely complex and taken to extreme, he puts in far more time and effort than is worth anything he could hope to get out. The Resin Forge thing for example, he dragged it out for weeks with false identities and getting his wife involved to make deranged video messages. It becomes more of a perverse game than anything else, he spun out RF far beyond the point when anyone would actually give him money. That's why I think entering into any correspondence with him or having people volunteer to become a spokesman or intermediary is a mistake as it just lets him enjoy the run around more. Even getting into a game of whack-a-mole on Facebook with him deleting messages as quick as they go up seems of dubious value to me, it perpetuates the cat and mouse game. That's just my feeling on the situation, having seen this same thing repeat time after time.

**reds8n**

So we're agreed then that we're all generally awesome and the world is a better place for our mere existence.

Good.

More for the sake of brevity than anything else might be best if this particular tangent was left as is.

Thanks.

**Inquisitor S.**

A reader alerted me again to BCS's/ Alan Welson's renewed activity in Facebook groups:

He's starting to post in groups like "WH40k and The Horus Heresy", trying to get feedback on his wares. Additionally, hiding behind mods expecting protection when people do question his now utterly dubious reputation. One to watch.

For those of you with FB access:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/WH40K.TheHorusHeresy/permalink/287785561362423/

He still keeps saying that he never received an aswer from Big Bad, how pathetic. But then who expected innovation here...

BigBad has ignored MANY emails from me for over a week since I was brought to light on the entire situation.
3:21pm (about an hour ago)

**Gutsnagga**

mattyrm wrote:

Its not like dodging a parking ticket, its fleecing innocent citizens of their hard earned coin, outright fraud, blatant theft. Its morally disgusting.

I thought you were talking about Games Workshop for a second there.

Jokes aside,
This thread makes me happy, because it shows that there are some really caring people on Dakka Dakka, who are trying to make the wargaming world a better place.
Thanks for that guys!

**Inquisitor S.**

Inquisitor S.
To refresh the memory of Alan here the screenshot of Big Bad's response as posted on Alan's own page:
http://i.imgur.com/3mSG0rQ.jpg

Alan Welson
Inquisitor S. Lexicanum That is not a reply to any of my emails. That could have been wrote by you. I do not trust you in any way shape of form. You make claims against people without ever taking both sides then use it to timply build a larger following.
Show me a SINGLE reply to any of my emails to Catwel/BigBad. You have my email as Catwel most certainly does. Forward the email you claim was sent.
5 minutes ago ·

Inquisitor S. Lexicanum There was no email, there was a public reponse, as you well know Old wannabe trickster you Here is the link, as you well know, after all it was you who repeatedly deleted it from your page. There is no private response required as Big Bad decided to answer you publicly for everybody to see so you couldn't claim he did not answer you (still you try )
http://www.dakkadakka.com/.../posts/list/180/548621.page...
And yes, you are welcome
P.S.: were you not supposed to be so busy at your work that you wouldn't have time to surf around on Facebook? Or was that also again... not true. ^^
5:22pm (about a minute ago)

Alan Welson
I suggest you contact Tommy Clark Munkey-Joe As he was sent a copy of the email I sent on the first day. I have tried to resolve this only to be ignored. I also have a screen shot of a person who contacted me stating how crazy it was catwell posted my info but never contacted me directly. It really doesnt mater in the end, BCS is no scam so continue with your web warnings, it matters not to me.
5:23pm (2 minutes ago) · LikeReply

Alan Welson
Im on a break Extra BURN to you dudes!

Inquisitor S.
Why would I want to contact somebody? I got the email directly from Mr Big Bad/ Catwell himself, why should I go through some potentially shady middleman of yours? ^^
5:25pm (a few seconds ago)

Alan Welson
This has gotten beyond funny. You all break page rules to attack me and the entire point was feedback on a model thats not even for sale. Grow up, get a life and get a job instead of trolling the net 24/7.

Inquisitor S. Lexicanum
...says the person selling non-existing products promoted with pictures stolen from unsuspecting thirds?

Etcetera etcetera ad infinitum

P.S.: aaaaaand the post including the comments is gone

**Tyranidcrusher**

Who's "Tommy Clark Munkey-Joe"?

**Inquisitor S.**

Who's "Tommy Clark Munkey-Joe"?

One of Alan Welson's real or fictitious pals I guess? In any case as I said, I had received the text of the email from Catwell (as he can confirm).
It's just the usual smokescreening of Daniel: "Lalalalala, if it's not per e-mail for my eyes only it doesn't count as an answer, therefore I am the victim as Big Bad didn't answer me, so it was clearly me who was scammed."

**MajorTom11**

My gawd it's like listening to a heinous song on repeat.. Same old everything... I say again, this is not the way a brand-new person reacts to a scandal with their business.

I can't believe he is pulling all this crap again 2 months after Resin Forge... And we know he saw the questions Catwell asked (admitedly my suggestions) but if you aren't Daniel Mandelbaum, why can't you spend 5 minutes to clear your name 'Alan'? Why would you do absolutely nothing to end the circus and get on with things if you are legit?

It would be so, so easy, give away no personal information, show you are a legitimate business and show you are honest about having the files... It makes absolutely zero sense not to.

**kshaw2000**

I don't have much to say, but your stuff is amazing. I'm not big on chaos, so I don't know what the defiler looking thing at the end was, but you should mass produce it.

**Kingcatwell**

Hey just got this message on the comments section sent by
mistressofminis

"kingcatwell linked the facebook link in the youtube video information already- which means he already knows how to get in touch with Black Crusade Studio- and has ~chosen~ not to do so. I am communicating with him, as have others, and have only seen the most trollish toned posts deleted(some of you went straight to conflict mode). BCS still wants to contact kingcatwell directly but even with a direct email address, there has been no reply to the attempted correspondence."

Is this the "bcs guy" under another alias? Also should i get drawn into an argument with this 'tuber?

**MajorTom11**

Mistress of Minis is a legit user, not sure if its really her or not. You may consider answering, once, with the same text you posted here, cc'ing a third party to verify it was done.

**Inquisitor S.**

I am communicating with him, as have others, and have only seen the most trollish toned posts deleted(some of you went straight to conflict mode)

See my screenshot of the post that was deleted by Alan Welson to check if I am speaking the truth:

That was a 1:1 copy of Catwell's post here without any additions from my side. And yet it is considered "most trollish toned" - that should answer all about the reliability of "Mistress of Minis".