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2013/10/01 07:38:38
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Daniel Mandelaum is Black Crusade Studio, Resin Forge re-opened
Honestly, it's not Sami's fault, and no one can speak for her because she hasn't been online recently. But putting everything in public view is the WRONG way to do things on that facebook page. Trust me.
All of this just feeds into DM's ego. If we're careful and tact with our approach we might just get our way...
2013/10/01 08:44:22
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Daniel Mandelaum is Black Crusade Studio, Resin Forge re-opened
Anyone can post pictures, or link to pages on Facebook. The fact that he has posted a link to Resin Forge doesn't prove that this account isn't just someone else stirring up gak.
2013/10/01 08:48:38
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Daniel Mandelaum is Black Crusade Studio, Resin Forge re-opened
MajorTom11 wrote: It's inevitable, and understandable, that new people will come in and ask
1. Did you think of reporting him to XY or Z
2. He could do X Y or Z to hide, get away with, etc
3. Be devil's advocates, neutral parties etc.
I get it...
And so do I, hence why I am not playing devil's advocate, but rather urging caution especially as the police are involved, and especially as counter claims of harassment have already been made.
Someone at some point on samis page is going to get done over by DM and they could blame her for not fixing it. Surely at some point sami needs to see sense
2013/10/01 10:40:53
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Black Crusade Studio's (Facebook) Warhound Titan Scam
Luke from The Sound of Machines here. Was notified of this issue and the fact that this person/people have liked our page. I've just gone through and blocked - regardless of if there is concrete evidence or not, we don't want to have these people associated with us or our work. Blocking now to avoid problems in the future; in my experience, drama tends to follow the same people around so heading that off now.
Look, um, if anyone sees any other aliases that we should be on the look out for, please let us know - we'd really appreciate it. We're too busy colouring in to be across this type of "thing".
Cheers guys, all the best with this issue for those who have been affected.
ExiledMiniatures wrote: Not to drag this thread back up but wanted to show people who believed Alan had harmed himself.
As of this morning he is still alive.
Just sharing this for the concerned individuals.
@This whole Sami/ Facebook group thing: it's irrelevant. You should have realized by now that Daniel enjoys being able to spread his poison in places where the moderators let him. What he really hates is places like this that he can not control and manipulate. Everybody by now knows that Daniel and his aliases have irrevocably attached the rotten stink of trouble and rather sooner than later he will be confined to his own Facebook page as that will be the only one left where he can control posts.
So it's really not worth the effort to bother with why other people don't ban him or not, just stick to Daniel, that's the one spreading the bad smell in the community. Also you should never get down to his parrot-like screeching, people take you most seriously if you are matter of fact
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Well he has to sleep at some point - but yeah this whole setup seems insane, even by his own general standards. That said maybe its all fallen apart and he's just in it for the trolling now, make some profit if he can, but otherwise is just in it to annoy "Dakka" and have this thread continue.
The other thought is that he's smoke'screening - hoping that by whipping up a storm on RF and other sites he can continue with a new website alongside somewhere else.
The final thought is that he might have a fair few "customers" stringing him along to encourage him to keep trading even though they are not intending to purchase ever. This last point might be why he's more keen to keep RF alive since he thinks he has potential customers. Downside is that the more it prolongs and the more he doesn't actually scam anyone direct the weaker Dakka's position appears and the greater the chance that someone new or unaware actually does make purchase (which, for many good reasons already explained, is a risky venture).
Luke from The Sound of Machines here. Was notified of this issue and the fact that this person/people have liked our page. I've just gone through and blocked - regardless of if there is concrete evidence or not, we don't want to have these people associated with us or our work. Blocking now to avoid problems in the future; in my experience, drama tends to follow the same people around so heading that off now.
Look, um, if anyone sees any other aliases that we should be on the look out for, please let us know - we'd really appreciate it. We're too busy colouring in to be across this type of "thing".
Cheers guys, all the best with this issue for those who have been affected.
ExiledMiniatures wrote: Not to drag this thread back up but wanted to show people who believed Alan had harmed himself.
As of this morning he is still alive.
Just sharing this for the concerned individuals.
I realize that this is coincidence BUT I am not associated in ANY way with Alan Welson other than him posting stuff to me on Facebook. He has gone away it seems, so there is that. NOW as far as Daniel Mandelbaum goes he is still communicating with me, for now, And I am still sifting through pages and pages of stuff to make MY opinion of the situation. I am going through 100s of pages of Opinion, screenshots, testimony, and anything else that is on the web from about 20-30 sources and people. Its a Lot. NOW The one part of "evidence" that seems VERY damning to Daniel is possibly the Photo of the conversation with Sami. Daniel swears this is a conspiracy and the picture is photshopped. I have joined the "a fansite for Games Workshop" page and will try to contact Sami to clear things up. I honestly think she is the ONLY one who can tell me who she sent the message to. If she says she sent it to Daniel.... Well that makes it null and someone is photoshopping pics to set him up, as he claims. If she sent it to Alan...... Well that is a coffin nail. ONLY SAMI can clear this.
As far as Being banned from Sound of Machines..... Well I understand completely. I have liked the page again as I DO like your work and I am a HUGE Dredd fan (as you seem to be also) and a fan of your work. If you continue to ban me I UNDERSTAND although it is not my wish. I do not wish to be Lumped into with a scammer as I may try to help someones reputation out BUT I also have mine to think of. I have worked on my rep for almost 20 years in the hobby and do not want it tarnished. Most of the community that knows me understands what I am saying but incase you don't know me, I always look for the truth in scandals. its there, always and while "facts" and "Opinions" sometimes don't always tell the story the truth always does. THATS what Im after. And I feel I am getting close....
Overread wrote: Well he has to sleep at some point - but yeah this whole setup seems insane, even by his own general standards. That said maybe its all fallen apart and he's just in it for the trolling now, make some profit if he can, but otherwise is just in it to annoy "Dakka" and have this thread continue.
The other thought is that he's smoke'screening - hoping that by whipping up a storm on RF and other sites he can continue with a new website alongside somewhere else.
The final thought is that he might have a fair few "customers" stringing him along to encourage him to keep trading even though they are not intending to purchase ever. This last point might be why he's more keen to keep RF alive since he thinks he has potential customers. Downside is that the more it prolongs and the more he doesn't actually scam anyone direct the weaker Dakka's position appears and the greater the chance that someone new or unaware actually does make purchase (which, for many good reasons already explained, is a risky venture).
Daniel is up now as he has already sent me some messages. he tried to call me last night but I had gone to bed early as I was needed at my business at 0600 this morning. BUt I will say that Yes he is awake and Yes he is watching.
2013/10/01 15:20:05
Subject: Re:WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Daniel Mandelaum is Black Crusade Studio, Resin Forge re-opened
I read these things so that I can stay on top of what is going on in our hobby, and so that I have some stuff to talk about with some of my friends at the shop.
Occasionally, something will happen that I find genuinely entertaining.
Such as: DM misspelled Dakka in this picture.
I'm not sure who the 'Daka fools' are, but I imagine they must be upset at his insult...
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One of them filthy casuals...
2013/10/01 16:01:09
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Daniel Mandelaum is Black Crusade Studio, Resin Forge re-opened
Wow, I just came back to this thread after many pages, but it seems that Mandelbaum has really stepped it up from previous scams...
I hope everyone's ok, and hopefully this mess will get sorted out quickly.
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2013/10/01 16:43:56
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Daniel Mandelaum is Black Crusade Studio, Resin Forge re-opened
This post was spam. Posting nothing but a joke undermines the seriousness of the topic on top of it. Please refrain from further posting of this nature, thank you - MT11
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2013/10/01 17:29:58
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Daniel Mandelaum is Black Crusade Studio, Resin Forge re-opened
Luke from The Sound of Machines here. Was notified of this issue and the fact that this person/people have liked our page. I've just gone through and blocked - regardless of if there is concrete evidence or not, we don't want to have these people associated with us or our work. Blocking now to avoid problems in the future; in my experience, drama tends to follow the same people around so heading that off now.
Look, um, if anyone sees any other aliases that we should be on the look out for, please let us know - we'd really appreciate it. We're too busy colouring in to be across this type of "thing".
Cheers guys, all the best with this issue for those who have been affected.
ExiledMiniatures wrote: Not to drag this thread back up but wanted to show people who believed Alan had harmed himself.
As of this morning he is still alive.
Just sharing this for the concerned individuals.
I realize that this is coincidence BUT I am not associated in ANY way with Alan Welson other than him posting stuff to me on Facebook. He has gone away it seems, so there is that. NOW as far as Daniel Mandelbaum goes he is still communicating with me, for now, And I am still sifting through pages and pages of stuff to make MY opinion of the situation. I am going through 100s of pages of Opinion, screenshots, testimony, and anything else that is on the web from about 20-30 sources and people. Its a Lot. NOW The one part of "evidence" that seems VERY damning to Daniel is possibly the Photo of the conversation with Sami. Daniel swears this is a conspiracy and the picture is photshopped. I have joined the "a fansite for Games Workshop" page and will try to contact Sami to clear things up. I honestly think she is the ONLY one who can tell me who she sent the message to. If she says she sent it to Daniel.... Well that makes it null and someone is photoshopping pics to set him up, as he claims. If she sent it to Alan...... Well that is a coffin nail. ONLY SAMI can clear this.
As far as Being banned from Sound of Machines..... Well I understand completely. I have liked the page again as I DO like your work and I am a HUGE Dredd fan (as you seem to be also) and a fan of your work. If you continue to ban me I UNDERSTAND although it is not my wish. I do not wish to be Lumped into with a scammer as I may try to help someones reputation out BUT I also have mine to think of. I have worked on my rep for almost 20 years in the hobby and do not want it tarnished. Most of the community that knows me understands what I am saying but incase you don't know me, I always look for the truth in scandals. its there, always and while "facts" and "Opinions" sometimes don't always tell the story the truth always does. THATS what Im after. And I feel I am getting close....
Overread wrote: Well he has to sleep at some point - but yeah this whole setup seems insane, even by his own general standards. That said maybe its all fallen apart and he's just in it for the trolling now, make some profit if he can, but otherwise is just in it to annoy "Dakka" and have this thread continue.
The other thought is that he's smoke'screening - hoping that by whipping up a storm on RF and other sites he can continue with a new website alongside somewhere else.
The final thought is that he might have a fair few "customers" stringing him along to encourage him to keep trading even though they are not intending to purchase ever. This last point might be why he's more keen to keep RF alive since he thinks he has potential customers. Downside is that the more it prolongs and the more he doesn't actually scam anyone direct the weaker Dakka's position appears and the greater the chance that someone new or unaware actually does make purchase (which, for many good reasons already explained, is a risky venture).
Daniel is up now as he has already sent me some messages. he tried to call me last night but I had gone to bed early as I was needed at my business at 0600 this morning. BUt I will say that Yes he is awake and Yes he is watching.
I just want to clarify for Sound of Machines, Munkey Joe is not DM, and should not be blocked! It just was a coincidence that it lumped Alan and Joe together for liking the page.
Luke from The Sound of Machines here. Was notified of this issue and the fact that this person/people have liked our page. I've just gone through and blocked - regardless of if there is concrete evidence or not, we don't want to have these people associated with us or our work. Blocking now to avoid problems in the future; in my experience, drama tends to follow the same people around so heading that off now.
Look, um, if anyone sees any other aliases that we should be on the look out for, please let us know - we'd really appreciate it. We're too busy colouring in to be across this type of "thing".
Cheers guys, all the best with this issue for those who have been affected.
ExiledMiniatures wrote: Not to drag this thread back up but wanted to show people who believed Alan had harmed himself.
As of this morning he is still alive.
Just sharing this for the concerned individuals.
I realize that this is coincidence BUT I am not associated in ANY way with Alan Welson other than him posting stuff to me on Facebook. He has gone away it seems, so there is that. NOW as far as Daniel Mandelbaum goes he is still communicating with me, for now, And I am still sifting through pages and pages of stuff to make MY opinion of the situation. I am going through 100s of pages of Opinion, screenshots, testimony, and anything else that is on the web from about 20-30 sources and people. Its a Lot. NOW The one part of "evidence" that seems VERY damning to Daniel is possibly the Photo of the conversation with Sami. Daniel swears this is a conspiracy and the picture is photshopped. I have joined the "a fansite for Games Workshop" page and will try to contact Sami to clear things up. I honestly think she is the ONLY one who can tell me who she sent the message to. If she says she sent it to Daniel.... Well that makes it null and someone is photoshopping pics to set him up, as he claims. If she sent it to Alan...... Well that is a coffin nail. ONLY SAMI can clear this.
As far as Being banned from Sound of Machines..... Well I understand completely. I have liked the page again as I DO like your work and I am a HUGE Dredd fan (as you seem to be also) and a fan of your work. If you continue to ban me I UNDERSTAND although it is not my wish. I do not wish to be Lumped into with a scammer as I may try to help someones reputation out BUT I also have mine to think of. I have worked on my rep for almost 20 years in the hobby and do not want it tarnished. Most of the community that knows me understands what I am saying but incase you don't know me, I always look for the truth in scandals. its there, always and while "facts" and "Opinions" sometimes don't always tell the story the truth always does. THATS what Im after. And I feel I am getting close....
Overread wrote: Well he has to sleep at some point - but yeah this whole setup seems insane, even by his own general standards. That said maybe its all fallen apart and he's just in it for the trolling now, make some profit if he can, but otherwise is just in it to annoy "Dakka" and have this thread continue.
The other thought is that he's smoke'screening - hoping that by whipping up a storm on RF and other sites he can continue with a new website alongside somewhere else.
The final thought is that he might have a fair few "customers" stringing him along to encourage him to keep trading even though they are not intending to purchase ever. This last point might be why he's more keen to keep RF alive since he thinks he has potential customers. Downside is that the more it prolongs and the more he doesn't actually scam anyone direct the weaker Dakka's position appears and the greater the chance that someone new or unaware actually does make purchase (which, for many good reasons already explained, is a risky venture).
Daniel is up now as he has already sent me some messages. he tried to call me last night but I had gone to bed early as I was needed at my business at 0600 this morning. BUt I will say that Yes he is awake and Yes he is watching.
I just want to clarify for Sound of Machines, Munkey Joe is not DM, and should not be blocked! It just was a coincidence that it lumped Alan and Joe together for liking the page.
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2013/10/01 20:00:50
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Daniel Mandelaum is Black Crusade Studio, Resin Forge re-opened
The Sound of Machines wrote: Understood, thanks mate. I've unblocked Joe Munkey from the TSOM page, hoping he comes back!
Sorry for the confusion Joe, I just don't want issues mate. Welcome back
No harm no foul Mate..... I COMPLETELY understand. No one wants issues, and Yes Given whats going on you are completly just with your actions.
As for the topic.... I am still doing research and reading. And While this thread seems to revolve around One person, I suggest everyone keep an eye out for Scammers. they Are Literally everywhere it seems.
2013/10/01 21:01:35
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Daniel Mandelaum is Black Crusade Studio, Resin Forge re-opened
Honest Hobbyist Horde Hating Horrible Hoaxers Having Hysterics
H8ers
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2013/10/01 21:07:54
Subject: WARNING TO THE COMMUNITY: Daniel Mandelaum is Black Crusade Studio, Resin Forge re-opened
Honest Hobbyist Horde Hating Horrible Hoaxers Having Hysterics
H8ers
Ok you win this one lol, especially fitting as that is one Alandlestephakimstaronethreestageresinbaum likes to call everyone with an IQ over 24 anyways...
H8ers it is! lol
Now, seriously, let's get back on topic as best we can please... as much of a break from the slogging and exhausting Mandlewatch joking a touch here and there is, especially for those who have been keeping track these last few years, it does make new viewers tend to miss the important, concrete bits.
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