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Morning Everyone!

I got an Apoc game coming up this Sunday. Due to time constraints every player is being limited to 4000pts (max) to ensure (somewhat) timely turns. It is unknown at this point who I might be allied with. Players at my FLGS run pretty much anything and everything so it's a toss up what kind of lists I'll be with & against. Anyway; so here's what I've got on the planning table as of right now.

Da Bully Boyz (Confers FNP & Fearless to those in the formation along w/ Rok 'em Boyz)
-Ghazghkull Thraka
-4 Warbosses (Eavy, Cybork, PK, TL Shoota)(Might upgrade 1 or 2 to MA)
-5 squads of Nobz @ 3 Nobz/sq (All I got, unfortunately)(Eavy, Big Choppa, TL Shoota, One squad has 1 PK, BP, and Waaagh Banner)

-I've attached a BW with them w/ RPJ, Ard Case, RR, x2 BS, Zzap Gun for transportation.

Biker Squad that I'm throwing together to try out (Why? Just to see how these two would work in tandem. if nothing else, it might be good for a laugh or two):
-Zhadsnark Da Rippa
-Wazdakka Gutsmek
-x4 Nob Bikers on Warbikes

15 Lootas

Old Zogwort + 20 Ard Boyz w/ Shootas

Big Mek w/ SAG + 20 Ard Boyz w/ Shootas

12 Trukk Ard Boyz w/ Shootas

12 Trukk Ard Boyz w/ Shootas

Deffkopta Choppa Skwadron (HoW, Jink, Mob Rule, Relentless, Scouts, Floor it Boyz, Whirrin' Deff)
-x6 Deffkoptas w/ KMB

x2 Dakka Jets w/ all options (RPJ, x3 TL Supa Shootas, Flyboss, Flyer Ace)

1 BW w/ Ard Case, RPJ, RR, x2 BS, Killkannon, Zzap Gun.

Points Cost: 4000pts even.

General plan is mobility at this point without knowing allies and terrain setup. As mentioned above I might upgrade 2 of the Warbosses to MA Warboss. That might come at the price of downgrading the SAG to a Skorcha to keep the Big Mek mobile. Another option is to get the SAG into the loner BW so that he can use it as a firing platform or just shove him in with the lootas. I got Old Zog in there for grins and giggles. I figure that if I get an 'ere we go! result I can shove him and his squad into the face of the enemy and maybe squig someone! If nothing else, the chance of generating an extra WAAAGH! while the Jets are out has potential so that I can keep Ghaz's WAAAGH! in reserve for Turn 2 and higher.

Thoughts?

Well you are still sadly only allowed one group of 'ard boyz for your entire ork army, Codex on the boyz page.

Else as for the list... NEEDZ A STOMPA!

and why go for the bike characters when you got nob bikers? it would be better to go for warbosses on bikes.
The dakkajets doesnt need RPJ.

and when first going for bully boyz you should keep em big :/ and with painboyz for the 5+ inv. but oh well have fun!

 phatonic wrote:
Well you are still sadly only allowed one group of 'ard boyz for your entire ork army, Codex on the boyz page.

Else as for the list... NEEDZ A STOMPA!

and why go for the bike characters when you got nob bikers? it would be better to go for warbosses on bikes.
The dakkajets doesnt need RPJ.

and when first going for bully boyz you should keep em big :/ and with painboyz for the 5+ inv. but oh well have fun!

Even in Apoc you're only allowed one squad of 'Ard Boyz? Weird since Army Builder allowed me to build this list as is... Hm... I might have to combine squads then and leave the boyz on the trukks as normal.

Can't take a Stompa since I don't have a model for one... :(

Hm, upgrade all the bikers to Warbosses? That's an interesting idea.

With the points changes from above, I can slide in a Painboy easily to get the 5+ inv. Or maybe even Mad Dok Grotsnik. I'll have to look that over.

I'd love to make the Bully Boyz even bigger, unfortunately that's all the Nob models that I have right now. :(

 DieselJester wrote:

 phatonic wrote:
Well you are still sadly only allowed one group of 'ard boyz for your entire ork army, Codex on the boyz page.

Else as for the list... NEEDZ A STOMPA!

and why go for the bike characters when you got nob bikers? it would be better to go for warbosses on bikes.
The dakkajets doesnt need RPJ.

and when first going for bully boyz you should keep em big :/ and with painboyz for the 5+ inv. but oh well have fun!

Even in Apoc you're only allowed one squad of 'Ard Boyz? Weird since Army Builder allowed me to build this list as is... Hm... I might have to combine squads then and leave the boyz on the trukks as normal.

Can't take a Stompa since I don't have a model for one... :(

Hm, upgrade all the bikers to Warbosses? That's an interesting idea.

With the points changes from above, I can slide in a Painboy easily to get the 5+ inv. Or maybe even Mad Dok Grotsnik. I'll have to look that over.

I'd love to make the Bully Boyz even bigger, unfortunately that's all the Nob models that I have right now. :(

You should hear with your opoment if proxies is ok
using perhaps a few boyz as nobz.

 phatonic wrote:


You should hear with your opoment if proxies is ok
using perhaps a few boyz as nobz.

For the friendly games; we usually allow proxies at my FLGS. For the Apoc games, we try to get as many actuals and WYSIWYGs as possible since we take pics for the website/FB Page/ etc

Update on the multiple 'Ard Boyz mobs: I got confirmation that since Force Org goes out the window in Apoc I can indeed run multiple mobs of them. I might still downgrade a couple of them to make way for more Nobz in the Bully Boyz though.

I love seeing ork apoc lists, everytime i do my pants get a little tighter lol, the sea of green in just beggin to call the wwaaagggghhh!

If you want more ard boyz their is a forgeworld warboss (in IA8 i believe) that removes the limit.

Take the Goffs Mega Armoured Warboss character from IA 8, and then have as much eavy armour as you want. Downside is he has no cybork body.

I'd also suggest swapping the Killkannon and zapp gun (both useless) for a Supa Kannon on that final battlewagon.

Whats Rok Em Boyz btw?

 Dakkamite wrote:
Take the Goffs Mega Armoured Warboss character from IA 8, and then have as much eavy armour as you want. Downside is he has no cybork body.

I'd also suggest swapping the Killkannon and zapp gun (both useless) for a Supa Kannon on that final battlewagon.

Whats Rok Em Boyz btw?

Rok em boyz is a ork orbital bombardment just with rokks! Har har har! I love the new apoc book and formations

 Dakkamite wrote:
Take the Goffs Mega Armoured Warboss character from IA 8, and then have as much eavy armour as you want. Downside is he has no cybork body.

I'd also suggest swapping the Killkannon and zapp gun (both useless) for a Supa Kannon on that final battlewagon.

Whats Rok Em Boyz btw?

That's doable.

I don't have the exact stats for Rok Em Boyz on hand with me. They're on p135 of the Apoc 6E Book. But it's like phatonic said; once per game orbital bombardment on the Apoc Explosion template. I'm kinda wondering when I should use it; T1 right when there's a whole host of targets? Or save it for later on in the game?

 phatonic wrote:


Else as for the list... NEEDZ A STOMPA!

The ork stompa seems to have lost his spunk!
he costs so much now and the fun of getting to roll so much for the suppa dakkagatla was just outrageously fun seeing you friendly opponents face!
although they did buff it slightly and make it more balanced it sure we a fun and cheap unit for apoc orks!

 Orkimedezz wrote:

 phatonic wrote:


Else as for the list... NEEDZ A STOMPA!

The ork stompa seems to have lost his spunk!
he costs so much now and the fun of getting to roll so much for the suppa dakkagatla was just outrageously fun seeing you friendly opponents face!
although they did buff it slightly and make it more balanced it sure we a fun and cheap unit for apoc orks!

Problem solved when using the IA8 stompa for 600P ormake akustom stompa in the stompaworkshop ia:8 <3

I might scratch build a Stompa here in the future, but I have a few other Orky projects that I need to complete first:

* 2 Deff Dred conversions from the AOBR Dreadnoughts (cutting the plastic on those things is a )

* Finish my 3 Looted Wagons (finally). I have 2 Rhinos and a Land Raider that I've been converting.

* Do my 3 Deff Rolla scratch builds that I've been putting of for Gork and Mork knows how long now...

* Finish Kitbashing more Lootas. I have a dream to run a full 45 in a single force org game one of these days.

* Do my Grot Tank squads scratch builds.

This list alone is going to take me, optimistically, till the end of the year to finish (with work, fencing, and college thrown in from RL to take up the rest of my time).

 DieselJester wrote:
I might scratch build a Stompa here in the future, but I have a few other Orky projects that I need to complete first:

* 2 Deff Dred conversions from the AOBR Dreadnoughts (cutting the plastic on those things is a )

* Finish my 3 Looted Wagons (finally). I have 2 Rhinos and a Land Raider that I've been converting.

* Do my 3 Deff Rolla scratch builds that I've been putting of for Gork and Mork knows how long now...

* Finish Kitbashing more Lootas. I have a dream to run a full 45 in a single force org game one of these days.

* Do my Grot Tank squads scratch builds.

This list alone is going to take me, optimistically, till the end of the year to finish (with work, fencing, and college thrown in from RL to take up the rest of my time).

You should try the apoc formation for dreadmob 2+ deffdreads 6+ killakanz, the extra rules they get is awesome!

as for the looted wagons, try make them look like halftrakks with supa kannons they are better and allmost the same price as a normal looted wagon.

DEFFROLLAAAHS! BE DA BEST ROLLAAAHS!

Grot tanks... they are so random it's just a matter of how fun you want

Yeah, I saw the dreadmob and practically drooled over the rules they get! It made me wish I had the models needed for it. (puts Killa Kanz on the list to scratchbuild/buy)

I thought that the Grot Tanks were hilarious, which is why I want to make some. Scratch building tank treads are going to be a pain, but I have a plan that I hope will work for it.

 DieselJester wrote:
Yeah, I saw the dreadmob and practically drooled over the rules they get! It made me wish I had the models needed for it. (puts Killa Kanz on the list to scratchbuild/buy)

I thought that the Grot Tanks were hilarious, which is why I want to make some. Scratch building tank treads are going to be a pain, but I have a plan that I hope will work for it.

I would recomend smaller scale kits of WW2 tanks and orkyfi them and put on some gretchin onto them