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So, both the bikes and the company master have gone off to their new owners, and this means it's time to start the next job...

As I've mentioned, and if you are familiar with the DV box, you will know that the Chaos army is next.
I thought that I would start with the Chosen as I had an idea for a scheme for them...

What do you think of a quartered black and white armour with gold and/or silver trim?
They are not even glued together yet (and I'm still working on my tank...), so there is plenty of time to change and I'd like to hear what people think (especially those familiar with Chaos Marines).

I was hoping for something like fallen Dark Anels, the black you've done on the ravenwing has been awesome, so you could do the pre heresy Dark Angel Livery on them.

 Theophony wrote:
I was hoping for something like fallen Dark Anels, the black you've done on the ravenwing has been awesome, so you could do the pre heresy Dark Angel Livery on them.

Thank you kindly.

Yeah, part of the reason for choosing black and white is that many people seem to have problems painting them and therefore that should up the desirability of these.

However, if I do them solid black (had to look up the pre-heresy scheme) then what colour do I do the bling? If it's done in gold, then that's black legion (maybe?).
I wanted something different and I quite like the one quartered marine I painted a while ago (and a couple of half/half models), combine that with the black and white thinking above AND that you don't see white on Chaos models (this is the part that I'm not sure if people will accept), you have a unique selling point.

Well if you look at blacklibrary.com they have the Horus Hersey covers for the Dark Angels. Most show silver trim with white shoulder pads, but they have some gold as well. You could also do red which I've seen a lot for the Dark Angels symbols, or even green as they started the color transition once Caliban had been located and their primarch found.

Black and white quartered reminds me of The Sons of Malice chaos marines. If you google their image you'll find them. They worship the fifth chaos god Malaal I believe who has been written out of the current rules.

Ahh, been done. Bugger. Thanks Theo.

It's a thought. I'm open to more ideas if you have them.


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Maybe some kind of corruption of the DA scheme... but how do you corrupt dark green???

How about black armour (instead of the "official" red), with bone trim (instead of the gold), and dark green cloth...?
Then pick out the various (and many) extra bits in metal (gold and/or silver) and the odd red touch (like the evil eyes etc...).

That could all work as a corruption of Dark Angels. But is that a unique scheme in the armies of chaos?

I don't recall any black and bone colored armies, so I think your good there, though swapping around the red and green I think would be better as the original Dark Angels had the red markings, forget what color lenses, but I've seen some sweet green oath seals before.

 Theophony wrote:
I don't recall any black and bone colored armies, so I think your good there,

Good good.

though swapping around the red and green I think would be better as the original Dark Angels had the red markings, forget what color lenses, but I've seen some sweet green oath seals before.

The thinking behind the green cloth and red spots was that the whole model will be mostly dark and then the little patched of red will jump out. But that doesn't need to be set in stone yet. We can see how dark they look with the black and bone and decide then.
Thanks Theo.

Back to the tank for a bit first...

So, progress on the Chosen. They have been fairly boring looking up to this stage which is why I haven't shown the earlier stages.
This is after a black base coat, a heavy dry-brush of dark grey, followed by a light dry-brush of light grey (trying to catch only the upper sides, edges and faces). Then the trim was based in brown then blended/layered from a medium brown to bone and highlighted with white.



Again, I think it will look better then it does now once I've added the other colours.
Thanks for stopping by.

Now they look awesome.

 Camkierhi wrote:
Now they look awesome.

Very kind, Cam. Thanks.
There's much more to do on them and some tidy-up is required already in places.

So, to go with this scheme, do we think the cloaks etc... should be DA green with small touches of red, OR... Should they be red with small touches of green?
Baring in mind that I'm planning on doing the tentacles and possessed bits of armour in a pink-purple...

Well they don't look all that different here at first glance, but there is a good couple of hours work poured onto them...

I've painted the grey bits, which includes the bone shaped bits, a few horns and all the little teeth-like bits that are randomly spread over the models (two layers of grey).

I've also base coated most of the possible metals bits with gunmetal and washed all of that with black and I also added the black wash to some of the black armour plates to enhance shadows and clean up edges. I used a damp brush to clean up the trim where the wash went over, although in places this left a nice shadow effect that I decided to leave.

Looking at them like this, I'm leaning towards the dark green cloaks as they aren't all that dark and to make them red would only lighten them further. I'm still open to opinions at the moment.

For the weapons, I'm seeing a trend of bare metal or black for the chaos armies... So, I can't use black as the armour is black and that leaves metal (which I could do with a wash of brown to make them look well used). Or, I could do them a dark, dirty red to contrast them with the bright red of the DA models I have painted...

Thoughts?

I originally wanted to blend the possessed bits up to a flesh colour from the black armour, via purple/red. But I could not get that to work, purple and flesh do not blend unless you want grey...

So I went for pink to purple to black...

I also lightened the "bone" bits and smoothed out the blending on them in places.

Oh, like the look of those doc Only just realised you had this thread

If you want to go purple-flesh have you thought about working up to flesh from black then using a purple wash or glaze to tint the blend?

 monkeytroll wrote:
Oh, like the look of those doc Only just realised you had this thread

If you want to go purple-flesh have you thought about working up to flesh from black then using a purple wash or glaze to tint the blend?

Thanks Monkey. Yeah, it's fairly new. I started this one to keep my army thread for just the army.

Yeah, I did think that.
I did even try to save the flesh disaster with a wash of the purple, but that didn't work well either. A glaze probably would work, but I don't have any... well, any that are purple (green and red clearcote paints at least). I just saw it as nature telling me that they were not meant to have flesh paint on them... Maybe I'll do some highlights with the flesh though... Those bits aren't quite finished yet, but I had to let the paint dry before doing any more.

For today's update we have the chosen fully assembled as all the hard to reach places have had all the paint they're going to get.

This also means that the red and green are now set in place (sorry Theo, I went for green cloaks and red spots).

As the purple/pink ended up slightly shiny (due to using a gloss red in the mixtures), I'm not going to give them any more highlights and will leave the shiny effect to do this job and make all the tentacles look a little moist.

The green has also ended up a little glossy in places, but this will be fixed with a matt varnish.

In contrast to the DA earlier, I've made the red duller and not as vibrant by using a dark red/brown undercoat (as opposed to the pink from before). I've still got to do some highlights on these bits, so they are not finished yet.

All the metals are still to do or finish and a few other bits as well.

I think I'm going to call the Chosen done.

All the eyes ended up orange as I've been watching the LotR commentaries so big, orange, evil eyes had to be done.


There is the occasional chip / dirty patch on the armour which I chose not to touch up as, being chaos, they should be a little knocked about.


The two identical models in the box have had a few differences added in the painting to make them a little less identical.


and I gave the man in charge a really ill-looking skin tone and left his "normal" eyes without pupils just to add to his Chaos-ness...

These are meant to be an exercise in painting to a reasonable level, quickly... although they took slightly longer than the bikes (at 32.5 hours), there are twice the number of models, I had the issue with the possessed skin/armour and I've placed these on the bronze level (so I could have spent much longer on the blending etc...).
I think they are a nice, unique, table-top level squad and I'm pleased at how they have turned out even if I could have taken twice as long to make them really nice, but that was not the aim for these.

I hope you like them and I'll post the link once they are up on ebay.

Great job Doc Good quality table-top is what you've acheived alright. The purple fleshy parts turned out ok in the end.

 monkeytroll wrote:
Great job Doc Good quality table-top is what you've acheived alright. The purple fleshy parts turned out ok in the end.

Thanks MT. Yeah, some of them turned out better than others and I'm still not entirely sure what a couple of them are supposed to be, but they are painted...

Very nicely done Dr. H, your colors worked out great . Like the eyes too.

Looking brilliant. And I definately love the colour scheme.

Theophony wrote:Very nicely done Dr. H, your colors worked out great . Like the eyes too.

Thanks Theo, glad you like.
The eyes were just a gloss orange followed by gloss yellow towards the middle, while wet. Then a bit more yellow in the middle to make it more vibrant and finally a black line/dot/splodge depending on how well I managed it. Had to re-do the ones on the axe as I totally ed them up first time round.

Camkierhi wrote:Looking brilliant. And I definately love the colour scheme.

Thanks Cam.

I'm working on a few little surprises to drum up a bit more interest in my casts (that is the boxes... which are still available along with the toilets... PM me if you are interested)

A couple of things for the next round of casting are in the planning stage, one of which is very sink shaped...

and the first layers of paint have been added to the tank interior for my army, so expect and update over there within the next couple of days...

Can highly recommend the boxes to people, tried them and they are brilliant., going to be working on the toilet soon.

I've often heard people say they do their best work there.....

Thanks again, Cam. Glad they stand up to close scrutiny.

Lol, MT

So here's a few examples of what you can do with my (your) boxes:
These pictures show all three currently available sizes of box (small, medium and large).


These boxes were made with some mis-casts I had and so allowed me to do this with the addition of a few random items...

You can do this with the boxes as each side is separate and thin enough the cut with a hobby knife.

The new boxes in these pictures were painted with a grey undercoat, followed by a white dry-brush and then coloured with an acrylic ink (that I bought recently and thought I'd try out. Burnt Umber for those taking notes) and then patches of dark brown/black wash were added to darken areas as needed.

That's really good . How did you make those worms?

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
That's really good . How did you make those worms?

Thanks.
Those are made with a sausage of milliput (GS would also work) of the desired thickness, a flat surface (slightly wet to avoid the putty sticking) and a comb. Pull the comb over the sausage as straight as possible, letting it roll on the surface, then bend to whatever shape you like.

I tend to do this with any left over putty I have when doing other things and then leave them to one side until I need a cable/worm/tentacle and then select one (or many) to fit.

It doesn't always work out well, but you can just roll it up and try again...and again...

Alternatively, you can buy a cable/tentacle maker which produce more repeatable results... for a price.

 Dr H wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
That's really good . How did you make those worms?

Thanks.
Those are made with a sausage of milliput (GS would also work) of the desired thickness, a flat surface (slightly wet to avoid the putty sticking) and a comb. Pull the comb over the sausage as straight as possible, letting it roll on the surface, then bend to whatever shape you like.

I tend to do this with any left over putty I have when doing other things and then leave them to one side until I need a cable/worm/tentacle and then select one (or many) to fit.

It doesn't always work out well, but you can just roll it up and try again...and again...

Alternatively, you can buy a cable/tentacle maker which produce more repeatable results... for a price.

Oooh, I can play with modeling clay again! Smart

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Oooh, I can play with modeling clay again! Smart

Indeed you can.
I've also heard it's useful to put a length of wire down the centre of the putty sausage to allow positioning without the effect of gravity getting in the way.

The Chosen are now up on ebay.

I've also opened a post in the Dakka swap shop area with more details of the toilets and boxes.