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**Godless-Mimicry**

Any having luck with the site yet? I finally got on and the cart button wouldn't work, so I reloaded and it worked, but then it automatically updated it to 16 books and now the site is down again. This is no way to run a business.

**Syphid**

Nevelon wrote:
Is it wrong that I looked at the army builder screenshot and thought:

HFs on Tacs? No beacon option for the pod?

Is it wrong that I looked at the army builder screenshot and thought:

What the

is a "Lightening" Claw?

**Commander Cain**

Syphid wrote:
Nevelon wrote:
Is it wrong that I looked at the army builder screenshot and thought:

HFs on Tacs? No beacon option for the pod?

Is it wrong that I looked at the army builder screenshot and thought:

What the is a "Lightening" Claw?

Well I count three typos on that page alone!

**cincydooley**

Well, I can safely say I don't like two things:

I don't like the new captain. He's basically a gakky rehash of the AoBR captain for $30. Not worth it IMO. I also don't like that th only way you can get the chaplain is in that $90 box. Sure, it's actually a decent deal, but it still grinds my gears.

**Azreal13**

Void_walker wrote:

Well that is the pic of their army builder. Big copy of the dex is 104 in Oz and gives you pretty much all the extras that is coming out so painting guides and alternate mission books 1 and 2. So not bad value really

Am I the only one tickled by the prospect of finding that page in the back of the dead tree book?!

**Syphid**

Commander Cain wrote:

Well I count three typos on that page alone!

No Plasma Cannon option, Heavy Flamer, no combi-grav, lightening claw, no weapon options for the Razorback, and no drop pod locator beacon?

**Nevelon**

Syphid wrote:
Commander Cain wrote:

Well I count three typos on that page alone!

No Plasma Cannon option, Heavy Flamer, no combi-grav, lightening claw, no weapon options for the Razorback, and no drop pod locator beacon?

The heavy meltagun should be a Multi-melta as well. Unless we can get duel-meltas in tac squads, which would be nice...

I hope this is a rough draft, not a finished product screenshot. Fun to poke at though

**Necroagogo**

I want a seargent with a lightening claw in my crusador squad!

That'd be awsum!

**ClockworkZion**

Medium of Death wrote:
They call it a shakey business model that's starting to alienate their fans/customers

Claims to that effect have been repeated since the 80s. And much to their detractor's surprise the company stays in business every year.

**Yodhrin**

ClockworkZion wrote:
Medium of Death wrote:
They call it a shakey business model that's starting to alienate their fans/customers

Claims to that effect have been repeated since the 80s. And much to their detractor's surprise the company stays in business every year.

And much to the detractors' lack of surprise, people still don't seem to be able to grasp the difference between "going by their financial reports, their strategy probably isn't sustainable in the long-term" and "Doooom, DOOOM, DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! GW is going to collapse within the next eight minutes because God is angry that Kirby molested a kitten, DOOOOOOM!"

**cincydooley**

Whoa whoa whoa. What is that army builder?!?!?

**ClockworkZion**

azreal13 wrote:

Why not do new Jetbikes for the Eldar release? People seem to be desperate for them?

"Because there's already a jetbike model that'll do, here, have a new flier"

Actually they ran out of budget to do both new jetbikes AND new Wraithguard so Jes Goodwin went with the Wraithguard because they actually have more options now than they used too, while the bikes did not at that point in time. We'll likely see the new bikes eventually, just not right now.

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Yodhrin wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Medium of Death wrote:
They call it a shakey business model that's starting to alienate their fans/customers

Claims to that effect have been repeated since the 80s. And much to their detractor's surprise the company stays in business every year.

And much to the detractors' lack of surprise, people still don't seem to be able to grasp the difference between "going by their financial reports, their strategy probably isn't sustainable in the long-term" and "Doooom, DOOOM, DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! GW is going to collapse within the next eight minutes because God is angry that Kirby molested a kitten, DOOOOOOM!"

The real question is how long is "long-term"? Because as long as GW has been publishing things people have been saying their business model can't last. Heck they were saying that BEFORE that too from what I hear.

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Void_walker wrote:
Don't know if anyone has noticed yet but the iBook version actually has an army builder in it for the SM digital dex.

Nifty idea but think a little late with the idea considering some of the other army builder products on the market

That was an idea that was pitched to them at the "Enter the Citadel" and they liked it, so I'm glad to see it made it. Now I wonder how well it works.

**RoninXiC**

Guys.. it's not an ARMY Builder, it's a COLLECTION manager

**Nevelon**

When the new plastic Farseer came out for $20, I thought, "It's a little pricy, but looks nice, easy to convert, I'll buy one"

Fast forward a few months...

New plastic SM characters. $30. Similar place in the army, and detail. Why the MASSIVE price increase over the comparable product from just a few months ago? Sure, they are a little bigger, and have a spare head to swap out, but that does not justify that kind of mark up.

Now, if the librarian had an option to swap the staff out for a force sword/axe/spear, or the chaplain came with both a normal backpack and a jump pack, I could see $30. It wouldn't be the fully customizable captain kit, but would help justify the crazy price hike.

And the captain is not just competing with the old multi-kit, but the finecast apoc captains from last month.

The box sets don't bother me. The prices are normal for GW. We didn't get an across the board price hike this year, so we knew the new stuff was going to creep up. But the characters are off the curve.

**KirbyFan**

I for one think the new prices are fine, and in fact I see them as being entirely justified. I think many people jump at the price tag and forget that we are talking about QUALITY models here, not just any old sculpts. GW models are for the hobbyist who values his miniatures, not for those that would prefer poor quality "miniatures". GW miniatures really are the best miniatures in the world. It's hardly even disputable (just take a look at the amount of detail and sheer character on the new centurion models before you argue). I wish the GW haters would just stop hating on GW.

Anyway, the librarian and commander look absolutely fantastic! The centurions look amazing, and the one click mega bundle looks like something I just can't resist lol. Can't wait to place an order when the site stabilizes (no doubt due to the plebs oogling at all those new sculpts they call "overpriced").

**Sidstyler**

Why the massive hike? Because apparently being GW's favored son is also a curse. Marines are so popular that GW can get even more fething stupid with their prices and it won't matter because people will buy it anyway, judging by how easily their site broke.

**The Grumpy Eldar**

I just went to the nearest GW store to order up my Sternguard. The guys there told me they had just one guy working on the servers in the weekend... one guy.

I wanted the Librarian with the Cherub but then I saw the price of 25 euros and had to say no.

Void_walker wrote:

So is that image above actually legit? (The army builder.) They seem to have lost the Lascannon and gained a Heavy Flamer?

And what's with the Seargent instead of just Sergant.

**Adam LongWalker**

Yodhrin wrote:
ClockworkZion wrote:
Medium of Death wrote:
They call it a shakey business model that's starting to alienate their fans/customers

Claims to that effect have been repeated since the 80s. And much to their detractor's surprise the company stays in business every year.

And much to the detractors' lack of surprise, people still don't seem to be able to grasp the difference between "going by their financial reports, their strategy probably isn't sustainable in the long-term" and "Doooom, DOOOM, DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! GW is going to collapse within the next eight minutes because God is angry that Kirby molested a kitten, DOOOOOOM!"

Agree with this comment as some of those people who are so anti GW they are just like the glorified apoligists who tells us that GW does no wrong. So extreme the two point are that they are similar in nature on how they approach something.

**Wyrmalla**

So is that "collection manager" a fake, or is GW just so terrible at error checking? There's at least eight errors in the Tactical squad entry alone.

**Big Gob**

You had one job Fred. One. Job.

**Davylove21**

Centurions look OK to me now. Not amazing, but not bad either.

Still refreshing constantly to get me an IF codex, I'll wait for my Sternguard kits but they are beautiful!

**Veteran Sergeant**

Syphid wrote:
Nevelon wrote:
Is it wrong that I looked at the army builder screenshot and thought:

HFs on Tacs? No beacon option for the pod?

Is it wrong that I looked at the army builder screenshot and thought:

What the is a "Lightening" Claw?

I dunno, but it will fit perfectly in a Crusador squad.

Anywho... I dunno. I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'...

**Nocturnus**

KirbyFan wrote:
I for one think the new prices are fine, and in fact I see them as being entirely justified. I think many people jump at the price tag and forget that we are talking about QUALITY models here, not just any old sculpts. GW models are for the hobbyist who values his miniatures, not for those that would prefer poor quality "miniatures". GW miniatures really are the best miniatures in the world. It's hardly even disputable (just take a look at the amount of detail and sheer character on the new centurion models before you argue). I wish the GW haters would just stop hating on GW.

Anyway, the librarian and commander look absolutely fantastic! The centurions look amazing, and the one click mega bundle looks like something I just can't resist lol. Can't wait to place an order when the site stabilizes (no doubt due to the plebs oogling at all those new sculpts they call "overpriced").

Sorry. GW does not make "the best miniatures in the world". There are many companies that are producing better models. Corvus Belli' Infinity range springs to mind. As for justifying the price, again, I disagree. It's blatant cash grab because Space Marines outsell everything else they produce. But, to each his own. If you are happy to pay their prices, good on ya.

**Azreal13**

Nocturnus wrote:
KirbyFan wrote:
I for one think the new prices are fine, and in fact I see them as being entirely justified. I think many people jump at the price tag and forget that we are talking about QUALITY models here, not just any old sculpts. GW models are for the hobbyist who values his miniatures, not for those that would prefer poor quality "miniatures". GW miniatures really are the best miniatures in the world. It's hardly even disputable (just take a look at the amount of detail and sheer character on the new centurion models before you argue). I wish the GW haters would just stop hating on GW.

Anyway, the librarian and commander look absolutely fantastic! The centurions look amazing, and the one click mega bundle looks like something I just can't resist lol. Can't wait to place an order when the site stabilizes (no doubt due to the plebs oogling at all those new sculpts they call "overpriced").

Sorry. GW does not make "the best miniatures in the world". There are many companies that are producing better models. Corvus Belli' Infinity range springs to mind. As for justifying the price, again, I disagree. It's blatant cash grab because Space Marines outsell everything else they produce. But, to each his own. If you are happy to pay their prices, good on ya.

Obvious troll post from user Kirby Fan was obvious

We were doing so well ignoring it too...

**SickSix**

I hope that army builder picture is not accurate. There are a lot of options missing for the Tac squad.

**Paradigm**

I think a 'Lightening claw' is a weapon put out to counter Grav-guns. The Gravs make you heavier, so presumably the claw 'lightens' you

....

**ClockworkZion**

40k Radio must be tired of answering my questions because they ignored mine, but here are ones they did answer:

Q: What does the Auspex do?
A: Instead of shooting the model can reduce the cover save of a unit by 1, range 12".

Q: Who can take an Auspex?
A: Anyone who can take Special Issue Wargear

Q: What's the range for the Primarch's Wrath bolter?
A: 24"

Q: The Relic armor, what kind of armor is it exactly?
A: Artificer armor

Q: How many bikes can take special weapons? Is it 1 in 5?
A: Up to 2 models.

Q: Since you didn't mention Storm Shields for Chapter Masters and Captains, I am assuming they are still available at the same price as before as well?
A: SS are the same

Q: Also, are Storm Shields available for Libbies in power armour too now (at 10 pts per)?
A: Librarians only get it in Termie armor
Follow-up: You could always take the Chapter Relic SS.

Q: Can chapter masters and captains take relic blades and can they take them with terminator armor?
A: Yes, the option is in their profile, but Terminator armor Captains and Chapter Masters do not have access to Relic Blades.

Q: What's the limit on Relics?
A: Only one of each per army.

Q: Did I hear you right? The captain comes in artificer armor? Or does it the option for it?
A: He has the option to buy it for 20 points.

Q: So I can take 2 relics on one character?
A: Yes, but it'll be pricey.

Q: If I'm playing Black Templars, do I have to take an Emperor's Champion?
A: No, the Emperor's Champion is not mandatory.

**Slinky**

Paradigm wrote:
I think a 'Lightening claw' is a weapon put out to counter Grav-guns. The Gravs make you heavier, so presumably the claw 'lightens' you ....

Nice one

**juanjopotro**

If you have problem to access to GW' site we have collected all the images here

http://forofreakfactory.mforos.com/1035375/11287203-marines-espaciales-aqui-podeis-ver-las-fotos-de-la-pagina-de-gw-que-esta-caida-y-mas/?pag=2#103370454

**Void_walker**

Wyrmalla wrote:
So is that "collection manager" a fake, or is GW just so terrible at error checking? There's at least eight errors in the Tactical squad entry alone.

It is 100% legit from the iBook library itself as they always give a few teaser pics of what you are getting.....ask someone with an iPad to have a look yourself.
I did notice there was a few spelling mistakes, but as always there is a few changes before the final product. I've bought a few and they even had the odd mistake in them.