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2013/09/21 13:39:00
Subject: Re:Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #361Ferrus Manus page 9
Love this model, return to form after the very disappointing Kor Phaeron and Erebus. The paint job doesn't do it justice at all, I actually prefer the unpainted pictures.
One problem I have with the diorama is that they are so far apart. Both having a swing and a miss takes away from the drama for me.
2013/09/21 15:33:59
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #361Ferrus Manus page 9
[DCM]
GW Public Relations Manager (Privateer Press Mole)
Maybe I missed it in the discussion but wasn't Ferrus wielding a custom made sword and Fulgrim the hammer during the duel (until the last blow by Fulgrim with the daemon weapon)?
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2013/09/21 16:47:48
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #361Ferrus Manus page 9
Yes this is their battle on Istevan v and explains the marines on the base. Their first battle was on the iron hands vessel and they were the only two in the room. And Fulgrim wielded the hammer.
2013/09/21 19:12:17
Subject: Re:Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #361Ferrus Manus page 9
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GW Public Relations Manager (Privateer Press Mole)
I'll have to reread it--but if memory serves, after their confrontation on Ferrus's ship--Fulgrim took the hammer after Ferrus destroyed his (non Laer) sword. Then when they met on Isstvan, Fulgrim pulled out the hammer he had originally made for Ferrus (and subsequently) stole--while Ferrus pulled out a sword he made after their initial battle.
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2013/09/21 20:34:20
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #361Ferrus Manus page 9
Ferrus made fireblade (the sword) and fulgrim made breaker (tha hammer)
They then gifted eachother the weapons they had made.
When ferrus attacked fulgrim on the IH ship, fulgrim knocked him unconscious and swapped the weapons back to remind him of the way the friendship had ended.
So in theory, the models are wrong Ferrus should have had the fireblade and fulgrim should have breaker and his laer blade.
Still though, being an IH player this model is simply amazing.
Trying to create a large and imposing model that looks dynamic is not easy, but they did it.
Other thing was giving him bare arms that didnt look goofy.
Again, they have done it.
This will be an auto-buy the second im able to order it
I just checked "Fulgrim" again and Jackal and Ageofegos are correct. All of that changing of weapons is quite confusing lol I still would have thought Ferrus would have been bigger.
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2013/09/21 21:33:44
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #361Ferrus Manus page 9
Gentlemen, I'd suggest you take a look at the FW items you were planning on purchasing; there has been a slight price rise on most products.
Infantry squads went up on average by 1 pound, low-value items .5 or 1 pound, and the various super-heavies and big ticket items up by more, between 3 and 7 pounds.
Therefore, I conclude, Valve should announce Half Life 2: Episode 3.
2013/09/22 08:44:16
Subject: Re:Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #361Ferrus Manus page 9
MajorStoffer wrote: Gentlemen, I'd suggest you take a look at the FW items you were planning on purchasing; there has been a slight price rise on most products.
Infantry squads went up on average by 1 pound, low-value items .5 or 1 pound, and the various super-heavies and big ticket items up by more, between 3 and 7 pounds.
Not much of a surprise there. FW prices haven't even been keeping up with inflation, so the only question was when we'd finally see a price increase.
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2013/09/22 08:56:22
Subject: Re:Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #360. Video about Erebus and Kor Phaeron.
MajorStoffer wrote: Gentlemen, I'd suggest you take a look at the FW items you were planning on purchasing; there has been a slight price rise on most products.
Infantry squads went up on average by 1 pound, low-value items .5 or 1 pound, and the various super-heavies and big ticket items up by more, between 3 and 7 pounds.
Not much of a surprise there. FW prices haven't even been keeping up with inflation, so the only question was when we'd finally see a price increase.
Makes complete sense, unlike GW price changes, but it remains news nonetheless.
Therefore, I conclude, Valve should announce Half Life 2: Episode 3.
2013/09/22 14:34:05
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #361Ferrus Manus page 9
Based of this Ferrus model, I'm pretty sure Vulcan will be the best of all of them. I mean, his armor is going to have a dragon theme, no other primarch has anything that cool.
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
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2013/09/22 17:34:55
Subject: Re:Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #361Ferrus Manus page 9
MajorStoffer wrote: Gentlemen, I'd suggest you take a look at the FW items you were planning on purchasing; there has been a slight price rise on most products.
Infantry squads went up on average by 1 pound, low-value items .5 or 1 pound, and the various super-heavies and big ticket items up by more, between 3 and 7 pounds.
Not much of a surprise there. FW prices haven't even been keeping up with inflation, so the only question was when we'd finally see a price increase.
LOL... More like FW prices have not been keeping up with GW prices.
As someone who has poured resin for a living, it looks to me like Forge World's pricing model goes somewhat like this: Figure out a reasonable retail price based on production costs, and then double that number (at the minimum) to get the Forge World price. Inflation is irrelevant to the way FW prices its pieces.
Tim
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2013/09/22 17:48:24
Subject: Re:Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #361Ferrus Manus page 9
MajorStoffer wrote: Gentlemen, I'd suggest you take a look at the FW items you were planning on purchasing; there has been a slight price rise on most products.
Infantry squads went up on average by 1 pound, low-value items .5 or 1 pound, and the various super-heavies and big ticket items up by more, between 3 and 7 pounds.
Not much of a surprise there. FW prices haven't even been keeping up with inflation, so the only question was when we'd finally see a price increase.
LOL... More like FW prices have not been keeping up with GW prices.
As someone who has poured resin for a living, it looks to me like Forge World's pricing model goes somewhat like this: Figure out a reasonable retail price based on production costs, and then double that number (at the minimum) to get the Forge World price. Inflation is irrelevant to the way FW prices its pieces.
Tim
Probably neither.
Pricing will be based on (estimated) demand for a given supply. If demand picks up, increase prices (or supply, but that usually takes longer). If demand for GW plastic rises faster than for FW resin, their prices will rise faster. Makes sense, no?
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Pricing will be based on (estimated) demand for a given supply. If demand picks up, increase prices (or supply, but that usually takes longer). If demand for GW plastic rises faster than for FW resin, their prices will rise faster. Makes sense, no?
Might make sense if demand for GW plastic was rising, but demand is actually dropping, especially in the UK and Europe as shown by the lower 2012/2013 sales figures for these regions.
It has been argued that GW plastic price increases are a direct result of dropping sales.
T
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2013/09/23 11:06:59
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #361Ferrus Manus page 9
I have Angron (I dare not attempt to paint him) and I have the Loken / Abaddon (I have done a poor job on Mr Abaddon since the GW one sucks) but i love this new model!
I am not really down with Ferrus as a character so far but what a great model!
I just wish they'd get a shift on. Yeah we get it they are special but they could pump them out a little faster. After all FW or GW aren't going to run out of models to make are they! I really want Rogal Dorn & Sigismund (and Russ & Sanguinius)!
Also will they be making 2 Horus's? (Perhaps 2 Fulgrim's also). They both go through a lot of changes during the war.
BTW anyone else get that problem - buying these special one-off pieces and they being afraif to ruin it with your crappy paint skills?
2013/09/23 11:35:28
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #361Ferrus Manus page 9
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
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2013/09/23 11:44:33
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #361Ferrus Manus page 9
Jackal wrote: Ferrus made fireblade (the sword) and fulgrim made breaker (tha hammer)
They then gifted eachother the weapons they had made.
When ferrus attacked fulgrim on the IH ship, fulgrim knocked him unconscious and swapped the weapons back to remind him of the way the friendship had ended.
So in theory, the models are wrong Ferrus should have had the fireblade and fulgrim should have breaker and his laer blade.
That's BL fluff and FW doesn't have to care about it if they don't want to. GW fluff is full of contradictions, it's part of its charm.
The Primarch of the Iron Hands Legion was a figure of legend amongst the peoples of his home world of Medusa, named by them ‘the Gorgon’ after the most ancient of mythic creatures. Ferrus was amongst the strongest of the Primarchs, reflected in this giant figure, dwarfing many of his brother Primarchs.
Forge World will be attending UK Games Day, held on Sunday 29th September at the NIA in Birmingham, and Ferrus Manus, the latest model in our Horus Heresy Character series, will be available to purchase on the day. As part of our Games Day UK previews, we have a feature on the Forge World Visual Feed about the Primarch of the Iron Hands Legion. In our latest video, designer Simon Egan talks about how he created the model of the Gorgon and how it can be incorporated with Fulgrim to form a stunning diorama.
You can also watch Edgar Skomorowski talking about Erebus and Kor Phaeron, our trailer for The Horus Heresy Book Two – Massacre as well as a video of writer Alan Bligh talking about what you can expect to find in this forthcoming book here.
If you would like to stay up to date with the Forge World Visual Feed of videos dedicated to our latest releases, simply select the Subscribe option in our YouTube channel. This will ensure you receive a notification every time we add new videos.
Alongside Ferrus Manus, The Horus Heresy Book Two – Massacre, Erebus and Kor Phaeron, and the Tau XV107 R'varna Battlesuit will also be available to purchase at Games Day UK. There will be a limited number of these pre-release products there on the day so we suggest that you turn up early at our Sales stand to avoid disappointment. If you would like to purchase a ticket for this event, click here.
We are still taking reservation orders for Games Day UK for non pre-release product. Click here to find out how to place a reservation order. The cut-off for placing reservation orders is 6pm (UK time) today.
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The warriors of the Legiones Astartes are the Imperium’s elite, and their officers are commonly equipped with the finest wargear imaginable. In the 41st Millennium, the Armouriums of the great Space Marine Chapters contain many war-relics, ancient weapons with histories as noble and storied as the battle-brothers that have borne them into combat.
The Mk II and Mk III power weapon sets, designed by Will Hayes contain a huge variety of weapons and equipment. The kits comprise of ten melta-bombs, five pairs of arms, three Phobos-pattern bolt pistols, three power fists, two lightning claws, two power axes, two power swords, two power gladius, one sheathed gladius, two chainswords, two hand-flamers, two plasma pistols, two Volkite Serpentas, a thunder hammer, a power maul and a heavy chainsword. This cornucopia of wargear is perfect for use with our range of resin Space Marine Infantry, and is also fully compatible with Games Workshop’s plastic kits. These models are available to pre-order now and will be despatched from Monday 30th September.
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2013/09/23 19:59:11
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors .Newsletter #362 Power Weapon sets and SoH accesories page12
The new power weapons look great, but I can't see what the diffrence is between the MkII and MkIII sets...
Edit:
Oh. the only difference is with the arms and heavy chainsword. Otherwise all the power weapons and pistols are exactly the same... Seems like wasted opportunity to add more weapon variations to the range.
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2013/09/24 08:47:19
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors . Newsletter #361Ferrus Manus page 9
Jackal wrote: Ferrus made fireblade (the sword) and fulgrim made breaker (tha hammer)
They then gifted eachother the weapons they had made.
When ferrus attacked fulgrim on the IH ship, fulgrim knocked him unconscious and swapped the weapons back to remind him of the way the friendship had ended.
So in theory, the models are wrong Ferrus should have had the fireblade and fulgrim should have breaker and his laer blade.
That's BL fluff and FW doesn't have to care about it if they don't want to. GW fluff is full of contradictions, it's part of its charm.
It's not just that, the book may well describe the fight exactly as BL did, but regardless of the whole diorama aspect they have going on, people have to be able to use these models individually in games, which for a lot of Tenth Legion fans is going to mean pre-Isstvan V when Ferrus still used the hammer.
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2013/09/24 15:52:24
Subject: Forge World HH and 40K News and Rumors .Newsletter #362 Power Weapon sets and SoH accesories page12
SOH torsos are awesome, may make a squad for my chapter with some fluff about being especially brutal close quarter fighters to justify them. The power weapon packs are frusrating. Giant chainsword (yes!), phobos pistols, chainswords, and poseable Mk. 3 arms all work for me, but a lot of those power weapons and extra pistols look pretty naff to me. The Mk.IV hand flamers, for example, look far superior to those offered here and those axes in particular look like they belong in fantasy rather than 30k.