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 Lockark wrote:
I'm sad about this "no warhammer forge for the next two years", huge bummers.

But then I realized something.

Been alot of buzz going around that in 2 years we will get the new ed of fantsey...

Sorry of I missed it, but where was this revealed??

How do you get 3 books out of Prospero? It's two legions, one battle and some Sisters of Silence thrown in.

@Sick Six - £££ $$$ - That's where you get it from. If it sells spin it out so that you can get more cash. Not that I'm complaining at FW mind you, as the vast majority of their products are top notch quality.

 SickSix wrote:
How do you get 3 books out of Prospero? It's two legions, one battle and some Sisters of Silence thrown in.

I believe he's referring to a second trilogy of which Prospero is one book with the other two being Signus and Calth.

 SickSix wrote:
How do you get 3 books out of Prospero? It's two legions, one battle and some Sisters of Silence thrown in.

Prospero Guard and the Adeptus Custodes also played a large part in the battle.

8 year until HH is finally over. It almost feels like one grand masterplan by GW . And after this 8 years, when all the legions and books has been released what then??

Is that the end of SM? Unlike when they updated the codex and added unheard off new units like centurions etc, GW no longer has a reason to produce any new SM product coz everything in the 30th millennium would have alr existed. It's like they are finalizing the SM range of products.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, just that It feels like the end of things. Almost like the emperors grand plans for the imperium.


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On a sidenote...

•I predict that the centurion will eventually be featured in the horus heresy novels to explain its appearance.

•after the HH has been fully released, GW will hold another global tourney to decide the future of the 41st millennium (14th black crusade, "Green" millennium etc)

alan bligh was adamant that after the battle the scouring happens - all retreating chaos marines heading to the eye and the retaliation of the imperium. very much unwritten territory which has scope to be as good as the lead up to the battle of terra.

badgermeister wrote:
alan bligh was adamant that after the battle the scouring happens - all retreating chaos marines heading to the eye and the retaliation of the imperium. very much unwritten territory which has scope to be as good as the lead up to the battle of terra.

Plus he said if they do make it to the scouring then they'll more than likely take on Post-Heresy Xenos armies as it's during this period they make the resurgence

Not impressed with the Saurian. Its supposed to have all kinds of gold danglies and glyphs and gems and stuff. Instead it looks like a badly proportioned T-Rex. They have done much better and I rate that one in the lower tier of FW/WF product as it stands.

The Dread Saurian is a WIP.

Depending upon who is sculpting it(looks like an Edgar "Insert Surname Here"), they might do the detail work after finishing the main sculpt.

 Voodoo_Chile wrote:

badgermeister wrote:
alan bligh was adamant that after the battle the scouring happens - all retreating chaos marines heading to the eye and the retaliation of the imperium. very much unwritten territory which has scope to be as good as the lead up to the battle of terra.

Plus he said if they do make it to the scouring then they'll more than likely take on Post-Heresy Xenos armies as it's during this period they make the resurgence

I read a rumor somewhere that said that they were interested in doing the Great Crusade and Unification Wars.

 c0j1r0 wrote:

 Voodoo_Chile wrote:

badgermeister wrote:
alan bligh was adamant that after the battle the scouring happens - all retreating chaos marines heading to the eye and the retaliation of the imperium. very much unwritten territory which has scope to be as good as the lead up to the battle of terra.

Plus he said if they do make it to the scouring then they'll more than likely take on Post-Heresy Xenos armies as it's during this period they make the resurgence

I read a rumor somewhere that said that they were interested in doing the Great Crusade and Unification Wars.

That's what I'd be MOST interested in - and with the Great Crusade, you've got a lot of Xenos opportunities too.

That was a Faeit rumor, IIRC. So who knows.

However, if they do Thunder Warriors and the unification period, I'm sold. I know not everyone feels that way, but I love that stuff.

Important to note that at the current rate for HH stuff, we're probably looking at the 2020s for unification stuff.

The Red butchers are great minis, had a look through the sculptor book of sketches for the faces and they are amazing looking. Cant wait for them to come out.
Also if you want to field a heresy army you'll need to buy the first book.

This may sound a little stupid, but when are all these being released? I gather it won't be all in one big bunch, but are we talking about in the next month or so?

New command minis.

That second banner bearer in particular looks marvelous!

 Warpig1815 wrote:
This may sound a little stupid, but when are all these being released? I gather it won't be all in one big bunch, but are we talking about in the next month or so?

over the course of the next few months or so.

I rather like the medieval/roman-esque helmet on the second one. I'm trying to think what Legion it would represent though - unless it's just generic of course.

EDIT: Cheers Alf.

Probably emperors children but I could see it being generic.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
New command minis.

Second banner bearer shall henceforth be promoted to the rank of Captain, because Lt. Morgan just wouldn't be right.

Red Butchers are amazing but as per the Rampagers and Justaerin I'm expecting their rules to be terribad. The Iron Hands stuff is fantastic; I love the Immortals. Great stuff all around. Lorgar is unimpressive compared to the others however from what I understand that's actually very fitting of his power and also his personality.

Col. Dash wrote:
Not impressed with the Saurian. Its supposed to have all kinds of gold danglies and glyphs and gems and stuff. Instead it looks like a badly proportioned T-Rex. They have done much better and I rate that one in the lower tier of FW/WF product as it stands.

I'm not trying to make a catchy derisive name, but the dread saurian model looks nothing like I imagined by the name or art, and more like a scrawny lizard rat. Very disappointing.

I should know this but is the break up of the Legions before or after the Scouring?

It would be awesome to see FW flesh out the successors. Maybe my Silver Skulls could get some love!

MK II Command, at last!

the talk of the great crusade/unification wars was briefly mentioned at the HH weekender as its something Dan Abnett wanted to put pen to paper about. The brief reaction was like dropping your bag of chips amongst some feral pigeons - if they mention it at next years weekender i'm sure if the reaction is replicated itll be secured as a future project

 gorgon wrote:
That was a Faeit rumor, IIRC. So who knows.

However, if they do Thunder Warriors and the unification period, I'm sold. I know not everyone feels that way, but I love that stuff.

Important to note that at the current rate for HH stuff, we're probably looking at the 2020s for unification stuff.

I don't think it would need attention of the same scale as HH, a box set and a few expansion model releases backed up by black library releases would allow this period to be successfully filled. It would be amazing to get a chance to roll on the unification period. The crusade would be a much better large scale project with the multitude of alien races to concentrate on after all the human love throughout the HH effort. By 2020 we might all be looking something fesh and unpower armoured.......but then again maybe not!!

i see the unification in a gaming sense as an ethical dilemma. Its ethnic cleansing on a global scale - obviously its the same for most of 40k but it was focused on wiping out religion and unifying man to a singular purpose. Too many similarities to recent events would be a bad idea as a gaming focus. i reckon thunder warriors would be a good 'FW event' model though.

@badgermeister - Arguably though (And I'm not outright saying your wrong), if that is the case, then they wouldn't have seen fit to release 40K - which essentially revolves around mass oppression of ideas and the suppression of individuality - concepts which society cherish now. In any case, I'm not sure the Unification era was 'ethnical' cleansing. Sure, it included the removal of religion, but it certainly didn't get rid of ethnical types - I gather the Emperor had more on his mind than segregating ethnical groups. However, this is really a conversation for another thread.

More on-topic, I'd love to see some Unification Era stuff. However, they'll have their work cut out for them. Not only would they have to do a generic line for 'Thunder Warriors' and 'Techno-barbarians' (For DIY purposes), but they'd also have to bring out an Imperial Army line (The Emperor's own forces) and a, ostensibly, a line for each of the known factions on Terra (Albyon, Boeotia Achaemenid Empire etc.) They'll have a tonne of fluff to churn out to support this, but it's well worth it in my eyes (So long as it doesn't detract from the 'mystery' of the Era that is alluded to in 40K of course). However, as it'll be an all-human range, I can't see them putting it out straight after they finish up the HH range.

badgermeister wrote:
i see the unification in a gaming sense as an ethical dilemma. Its ethnic cleansing on a global scale - obviously its the same for most of 40k but it was focused on wiping out religion and unifying man to a singular purpose. Too many similarities to recent events would be a bad idea as a gaming focus. i reckon thunder warriors would be a good 'FW event' model though.

That would actually just make it more interesting, with all the moral dilemmas involved. Although destroying competing factions and denying them their religion has little to do with 'ethnic cleansing' - the latter is more about total slaughter of said people, and I've thought that Unification Wars and Great Crusade were more about removing any opposition to unity, not about killing all the civilians of 'wrong color'.