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They are technically better with more of them. More likely to actually get them to do their thing. Still horrible, but better.

Yeah... FW rules are kinda' silly at times. Often more likely to use their models as cool proxies than what they actually represent.

It's like how they give ordnance to a large number of weapons on their tanks/flyers. They note the better ability to pen, forget the whole "must snap fire everything else" part of it. Some GW stuff has that too though, but those are usually rules which are legitimately an edition behind, not "updated" ones.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I personally love the new Malanthrope bundle. Has anyone at FW read their Malanthrope rules? Why would you want one, let alone three?

I am often tempted by the Malanthrope even as a non-Tyranid player. It's just such an evil looking model, by far one of my favorites.

Oh it's a very nice model, don't get me wrong. The one I have is lovely. It just had ok rules for a long time, and now has rules that make you wonder what the hell the guy writing themw as thinking.

What's the gist of them? I don't even know what it does. It looks like it has poison sacs or something.

 Ouze wrote:
What's the gist of them? I don't even know what it does. It looks like it has poison sacs or something.

Essentially it is a unit that must win an assault to benefit from a mediocre ability (gains PE against the same unit type as the one it defeats) but has no delivery method other than foot slogging and is only slightly more durable than a SM Centurion, for over 100 points a model.

That's pretty lame, even for Forge World.

badgermeister wrote:
look at the new medusa, mechanicus, land raider variant and Mk2 + Mk3 command variants!!!!

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/W/winter13-14%20Cat-Supweb.pdf

So what we can conclude from this is don't expect anything new for the foreseeable future unless you play marines. Yay.

 Peregrine wrote:
So what we can conclude from this is don't expect anything new for the foreseeable future unless you play marines. Yay.

There's Mechanicum. That trumps all Marine releases.

Foxy_Grandpa wrote:http://imgur.com/UR6z0Y2

Must. Have. Myrmidons.

Alpha! Speed up time, will ya?

I would rather they get back onto the Imperial Armour train.

The Elysian Stormtroopers still need to be released...

 Kanluwen wrote:
I would rather they get back onto the Imperial Armour train.

The Elysian Stormtroopers still need to be released...

Of course you would. From your perspective we're "not allowed" AdMech things, remember?

I can hear the mechandrites breaking from here.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I would rather they get back onto the Imperial Armour train.

The Elysian Stormtroopers still need to be released...

Of course you would. From your perspective we're "not allowed" AdMech things, remember?

They're Inquisitors, curse you!

Oh if only...

But I think they're supposed to be standard stormtroopers.

Isn't Elysian Storm Trooper something of a misnomer?

They wouldn’t be Elysian if they were Storm Troopers, as Storm Troopers aren’t from any specific planet or organisation (just like how there’s no such thing as “Inquisitorial Storm Troopers”; instead there are Storm Troopers, and some are seconded to the Inquisition occasionally). The closest analogue would be Elysian Grenadiers, yes?

 Moopy wrote:
I can hear the mechandrites breaking from here.

Ugh.... i never even thought of that well drewing over thows modles.
D=

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Isn't Elysian Storm Trooper something of a misnomer?

They wouldn’t be Elysian if they were Storm Troopers, as Storm Troopers aren’t from any specific planet or organisation (just like how there’s no such thing as “Inquisitorial Storm Troopers”; instead there are Storm Troopers, and some are seconded to the Inquisition occasionally). The closest analogue would be Elysian Grenadiers, yes?

I guess "Elysian Veteran" would be a better term for it. The idea originally was that in IA8 we were going to see an "Elysian Veteran" squad with Hellguns and weaponry putting them on par with Hardened Veteran squads and Stormtroopers.

Oh wow! I'd snap up so many squads of them if they were available.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Isn't Elysian Storm Trooper something of a misnomer?

They wouldn’t be Elysian if they were Storm Troopers, as Storm Troopers aren’t from any specific planet or organisation (just like how there’s no such thing as “Inquisitorial Storm Troopers”; instead there are Storm Troopers, and some are seconded to the Inquisition occasionally). The closest analogue would be Elysian Grenadiers, yes?

I guess "Elysian Veteran" would be a better term for it. The idea originally was that in IA8 we were going to see an "Elysian Veteran" squad with Hellguns and weaponry putting them on par with Hardened Veteran squads and Stormtroopers.

Spoiler:

They made those, weren't they called Mantic Enforcers?

And didn't they settle for vets with shotguns in the end?

We can now confirm that the Forge World Open Day will be on the 30th of March, you can find it on the Warhammer World Events Calander. We will have more information about this event and others in the coming weeks.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3720006a_2014_public_calendar_06.01.14.pdf

 Bobthehero wrote:
And didn't they settle for vets with shotguns in the end?

The shotgun vets already existed. For IA8 all the Elysians got was the Valkyrie interior troops, the two Tauros kits, and the Valkyrie Sky Talon.

Thralls look lovely, not sold on Myrmidons. I don't get why everyone seems to like them so much, they look awkward, especially those robed lower bodies.

That being said, Mechanicum stuff overall is amazing, an I would like to buy some. However, I absolutely won't until they get official 40K rules. This is what bugs me in this HH stuff, there are so many things that just are not usable in normal 40K; that can't be good for the sales, can it?

Robed Mechanicum look awkward? You've seen Tech-Priests before, yes?

I'll be using them as GK henchmen for an Inquisition army with IG allies. I'm mainly going to use Thralls as gun servitors. I'm not sure if I can get away with using a Myrmidon destructor as a Jokaero weaponsmith or an Inquistor or something because of the size.
I do really hope that the AdMech units will get proper 40K rules at some point.
The Castellax Battle Automata makes for a good GK Dreadnought though.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Robed Mechanicum look awkward? You've seen Tech-Priests before, yes?

Yes, it is just that it looks weird on those big, bulky legs (but then again, I never liked robed terminators either.) I would have preferred some robotic legs with gears and cables.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Robed Mechanicum look awkward? You've seen Tech-Priests before, yes?

Besides which, Mechanicum are supposed to look awkward and inhuman. I actually find the Thralls to be the least impressive of the ones on offer so far, partially because they're nothing you couldn't approximate by converting existing figures anyway, but mostly because they're not the better-scaled proper-resin Servitors I was hoping we'd get out of FW as part of the Mechanicum range.

 Bonde wrote:
I'll be using them as GK henchmen for an Inquisition army with IG allies. I'm mainly going to use Thralls as gun servitors. I'm not sure if I can get away with using a Myrmidon destructor as a Jokaero weaponsmith or an Inquistor or something because of the size.
I do really hope that the AdMech units will get proper 40K rules at some point.
The Castellax Battle Automata makes for a good GK Dreadnought though.

I emailed FW on that score pretty much the moment they officially acknowledged the existence of the Castellax; no dice. They didn't rule out 40K rules, but they used their standard "no plans currently" response, which likely means they'll keep their powder dry on Mechanicus rules until they can put them into a full Imperial Armour book. Given that they're almost entirely dedicated to producing the HH range now, that possibility is a few years away at best.