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Just curious to see if anyone has been able to see the background for the new heavy infantry?

Techpriest turns to space marine.

Yo dawg, I heard you like power armor. So we put Power armor over your power armor over your Space marines.
So you can Power Armor while you Sphess Marheen the Enemeh.

 Engine of War wrote:
Yo dawg, I heard you like power armor. So we put Power armor over your power armor over your Space marines.
So you can Power Armor while you Sphess Marheen the Enemeh.

Exalted for truth. I'm sure the Codex will explain, but I'm sticking with this version.

The Master of the Forge "utilised" the local flora of a planet one night...

"Hey... hey guys. why don't we take like...like a Space Marine, right... and then put him... wait for it... inside... inside a bigger Space Marine! And, and then give him giant... giant guns and stuff... hey, where are you all going?"

Well a Dreadnought and A Space Marine got together one night ...

This is what happened:

the fluff is, IIRC, that they were experimental assault suits developed during the Heresy, but they weren't used very much.

Now, they are being looked at again by the various chapter artificers.

The fluff that makes the most sense to me (which I think someone invented in the super-long thread in News and Rumors):

The Imperium and the AdMech have almost entirely forgotten how to fabricate Terminator armor and are mostly just rebuilding old suits after their loss in battle, or scouring Space Hulks and old planets for lost suits from the Heresy.

Cue some enterprising Techmarines or AdMech dudes re-purposing or straight up creating a new type of armor, inferior to Terminator armor in a lot of ways (size, mobility) but able to provide almost the same protection and carry heavier weapons. It's like crappier new Terminator armor, and it would make sense for this to be a relatively "new" introduction as the design spreads to different chapters.

That kind of makes sense...

 CalgarsPimpHand wrote:
The fluff that makes the most sense to me (which I think someone invented in the super-long thread in News and Rumors):

The Imperium and the AdMech have almost entirely forgotten how to fabricate Terminator armor and are mostly just rebuilding old suits after their loss in battle, or scouring Space Hulks and old planets for lost suits from the Heresy.

Cue some enterprising Techmarines or AdMech dudes re-purposing or straight up creating a new type of armor, inferior to Terminator armor in a lot of ways (size, mobility) but able to provide almost the same protection and carry heavier weapons. It's like crappier new Terminator armor, and it would make sense for this to be a relatively "new" introduction as the design spreads to different chapters.

Are you sure its not a dodgy Tau influence? Marines are battlebrothers after all

That video is freaking hilarious hahah

 King Pariah wrote:
This is what happened:

Beat dat dead horse son.
I need to borrow the Flash Gitz crystal ball............

....I like Rush.

Doesn't ave anything to do with forgetting how to make terminator armor. Has to do with them needing an alternative since the Crux Terminators has a piece of the Emprahs battle armor embedded in it.

Only so much Emprah loincloth to go around.

I think that is more of a legend than fact.

Going off what usually happens, most fluff from now on will probably include at least a cameo appearance of Centurion armor, so while there isn't any fluff now, there will likely be in the coming years.

I bet
"after a week of long and arduous diplomatic talks, the admech could no longer take the insults about the astartes pattern armors, the tau saying there criss can hold so much more heavier firepower" Later that night after many drinks...

(insert admech dialup noise) "these damned fishies think they are so much better.. hic.. well i'll show them... hic.. hey ererersfsersr ... hic.. what would you do... HEy lets put an armor in side a ARMOR... THATS hERESEY! Thats GENIUS... hic. lets grab a ultra marine and tell him its for uhhh.. testing, yes testing. stand still, so we took this, and put guns all over it, step in and controll.

pssst what was it? ...hic... some old heavy tree logging suits i found... heheheheheheheehhe..

Well, there's this one:

In the near future, an evil genius, the cyborg Doc Terror, seeks to conquer the Earth. He is assisted by Hacker, the cyborg sidekick and an army of Doom Drones. There were three types of drones:

Traumatizers - the most commonly seen drones are walking robots with laser blasters for arms.
Strafer - A flying robot armed with missiles and lasers.
Groundborgs - A land based robot armed with lasers that moves on treads.

Later, a wheeled Drone with a large screen and cannons as well as a submarine drone were added. Doc Terror and Hacker are able to fly by swapping their purely robot half for a Strafer missing one set of wings. They are joined on many occasions, starting with the first episode, by Doc Terror's daughter Amber.

At each turn their evil plans are thwarted by the heroic Centurions. The Centurions are a team of men dressed in specially created exo-frames that allow them (upon shouting "Power Extreme") to fuse with 'incredible' assault weapon systems, becoming what the show calls man and machine, Power Xtreme! The end result is a weapons platform somewhere between a hard-suit and a mecha. Originally there are three Centurions but two other Centurions are later added:

Original Team:

Max Ray - 'Brilliant' Sea Operations Commander: The calm and collected de facto leader of the team, donning a green power suit. His weapon systems are best suited for underwater missions.
Jake Rockwell - 'Rugged' Land Operations Specialist: Donning a yellow power suit, he has a short fuse. His weapon systems have the most firepower and are best suited for land missions, except for a helicopter-themed system he uses in air combat, usually assisted by Ace.
Ace McCloud - 'Daring' Air Operations Expert: Donning a blue power suit, he is a brave but cocky womanizer who is sometimes at odds with Jake. His weapon systems are best suited for aerial missions, including one specially designed for battles in space.

Extended Team (later additions):

Rex Charger - ‘Expert’ Energy Programmer
John Thunder – ‘Specialist’ Infiltration Commander


Which I still prefer to GW's cack-handed shoe-horned fluff.

POWER EXTREME!

 chromedog wrote:
Well, there's this one:

In the near future, an evil genius, the cyborg Doc Terror, seeks to conquer the Earth. He is assisted by Hacker, the cyborg sidekick and an army of Doom Drones. There were three types of drones:

Traumatizers - the most commonly seen drones are walking robots with laser blasters for arms.
Strafer - A flying robot armed with missiles and lasers.
Groundborgs - A land based robot armed with lasers that moves on treads.

Later, a wheeled Drone with a large screen and cannons as well as a submarine drone were added. Doc Terror and Hacker are able to fly by swapping their purely robot half for a Strafer missing one set of wings. They are joined on many occasions, starting with the first episode, by Doc Terror's daughter Amber.

At each turn their evil plans are thwarted by the heroic Centurions. The Centurions are a team of men dressed in specially created exo-frames that allow them (upon shouting "Power Extreme") to fuse with 'incredible' assault weapon systems, becoming what the show calls man and machine, Power Xtreme! The end result is a weapons platform somewhere between a hard-suit and a mecha. Originally there are three Centurions but two other Centurions are later added:

Original Team:

Max Ray - 'Brilliant' Sea Operations Commander: The calm and collected de facto leader of the team, donning a green power suit. His weapon systems are best suited for underwater missions.
Jake Rockwell - 'Rugged' Land Operations Specialist: Donning a yellow power suit, he has a short fuse. His weapon systems have the most firepower and are best suited for land missions, except for a helicopter-themed system he uses in air combat, usually assisted by Ace.
Ace McCloud - 'Daring' Air Operations Expert: Donning a blue power suit, he is a brave but cocky womanizer who is sometimes at odds with Jake. His weapon systems are best suited for aerial missions, including one specially designed for battles in space.

Extended Team (later additions):

Rex Charger - ‘Expert’ Energy Programmer
John Thunder – ‘Specialist’ Infiltration Commander


Which I still prefer to GW's cack-handed shoe-horned fluff.

NIce


I really hope the new codex says that the admech have managed to add a new weapon to the marines arsenal, not just go
'hey look what we've got'
'Nice - where'd you get them'
'We've always had them'
'Only we'd forgotten them again?'

I'd like to add a little to the above
Rex Charger - Random billionaire who didn't really add much
John Thunder - American indian racial stereotype, added specifically to improve racial diversity

Max Ray - Owner of the best moustache since Tom Selleck and Stranglehold.
Jake Rockwell - No tactics needed, only able to charge.
Ace McCloud - Has a major problem with sex addiction - seriously, watch the old cartoons, he has a new lady friend every week. Apart from one episode where he and Jake both like the same lady and she goes off with Max Ray. Proving once and for all the moustache's superiority.

TheSGC wrote:
Going off what usually happens, most fluff from now on will probably include at least a cameo appearance of Centurion armor, so while there isn't any fluff now, there will likely be in the coming years.

That is pretty annoying, especially when its a BL novel and you can tell the author was told to shoe horn the new thing in. Its like a TV show where all of a sudden there is a new character, who everyone acts like they've always been there, and they can't stop shouting "HEY I'M THE NEW GUY I'VE ALWAYS BEEN HERE!" Funnily enough the new thing is usually killed off pretty easily or quickly...


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 PredaKhaine wrote:

 chromedog wrote:
Well, there's this one:

In the near future, an evil genius, the cyborg Doc Terror, seeks to conquer the Earth. He is assisted by Hacker, the cyborg sidekick and an army of Doom Drones. There were three types of drones:

Traumatizers - the most commonly seen drones are walking robots with laser blasters for arms.
Strafer - A flying robot armed with missiles and lasers.
Groundborgs - A land based robot armed with lasers that moves on treads.

Later, a wheeled Drone with a large screen and cannons as well as a submarine drone were added. Doc Terror and Hacker are able to fly by swapping their purely robot half for a Strafer missing one set of wings. They are joined on many occasions, starting with the first episode, by Doc Terror's daughter Amber.

At each turn their evil plans are thwarted by the heroic Centurions. The Centurions are a team of men dressed in specially created exo-frames that allow them (upon shouting "Power Extreme") to fuse with 'incredible' assault weapon systems, becoming what the show calls man and machine, Power Xtreme! The end result is a weapons platform somewhere between a hard-suit and a mecha. Originally there are three Centurions but two other Centurions are later added:

Original Team:

Max Ray - 'Brilliant' Sea Operations Commander: The calm and collected de facto leader of the team, donning a green power suit. His weapon systems are best suited for underwater missions.
Jake Rockwell - 'Rugged' Land Operations Specialist: Donning a yellow power suit, he has a short fuse. His weapon systems have the most firepower and are best suited for land missions, except for a helicopter-themed system he uses in air combat, usually assisted by Ace.
Ace McCloud - 'Daring' Air Operations Expert: Donning a blue power suit, he is a brave but cocky womanizer who is sometimes at odds with Jake. His weapon systems are best suited for aerial missions, including one specially designed for battles in space.

Extended Team (later additions):

Rex Charger - ‘Expert’ Energy Programmer
John Thunder – ‘Specialist’ Infiltration Commander


Which I still prefer to GW's cack-handed shoe-horned fluff.

NIce


I really hope the new codex says that the admech have managed to add a new weapon to the marines arsenal, not just go
'hey look what we've got'
'Nice - where'd you get them'
'We've always had them'
'Only we'd forgotten them again?'

I'd like to add a little to the above
Rex Charger - Random billionaire who didn't really add much
John Thunder - American indian racial stereotype, added specifically to improve racial diversity

Max Ray - Owner of the best moustache since Tom Selleck and Stranglehold.
Jake Rockwell - No tactics needed, only able to charge.
Ace McCloud - Has a major problem with sex addiction - seriously, watch the old cartoons, he has a new lady friend every week. Apart from one episode where he and Jake both like the same lady and she goes off with Max Ray. Proving once and for all the moustache's superiority.

To all of this...You forgot the monkey?!?

Lucy was an orang utan...

And no, I omitted crystal kane too as they were an unfortunate side effect of wanting to see centurions...

Can anyone got who's got the new dex confirm where the centurions (SM ones ) have appeared from?

I'm guessing Marneus Calgars rear waste port

A somewhat more specific version of the previously posted video:

Its a complete addition to to the fluff as if its always been there:

p94
Named after the Space Marine leaders of old, the Centurion design was unearthed in the aftermath of the Age of Apostasy, and after sanction by the Adeptus Mechanicus, they found their way into the armouries of almost every Space Marine Chapter.

So confirmed post-age of apostasy. I doubt GW gave that arbitrary date any thought. I eagerly await stories about centurions in M35

From reading WF
D they appear the SM answer to the Iron Man Hulkbuster armour, which IronMan wore over his suit.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Its a complete addition to to the fluff as if its always been there:

p94
Named after the Space Marine leaders of old, the Centurion design was unearthed in the aftermath of the Age of Apostasy, and after sanction by the Adeptus Mechanicus, they found their way into the armouries of almost every Space Marine Chapter.

And it opens the way for the Ecclesiarchy to have acquired some of these suits, allowing for psuedo-TermiSisters.

Hmm what a cool idea especially as it specifically notes they are just exoskeletons that work with power armour and don't require interface with the black carapace.

Now if only they looked cool :( still I bet that someone can make decent looking Sisters in exosuits!

 Mr Morden wrote:
Hmm what a cool idea especially as it specifically notes they are just exoskeletons that work with power armour and don't require interface with the black carapace.

Now if only they looked cool :( still I bet that someone can make decent looking Sisters in exosuits!

But SoB PA and SM PA are totally different. I think the Centurion armor would be designed to interface with Astartes PA.

If they can make it work with the various different Astartes Marks should not be an issue. Sororitas armour is not that different that it would not work IMO or could not be adapted to work......

Still not sure I want a similar retcon for the Sisters though......