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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/18 18:30:59
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Usual caveats apply, there is no guarantee that the "rumored" pricing is correct.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/18 18:51:06
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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[DCM]
Coastal Bliss in the Shadow of Sizewell
Suffolk, where the Aliens roam.
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Sad thing is I'll pay £30 for ten if that's the price.. I'll just be crying softly into the wallet as I do so.
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"That's not an Ork, its a girl.." - Last words of High General Daran Ul'tharem, battle of Ursha VII.
Two White Horses (Ipswich Town and Denver Broncos Supporter)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/18 18:57:00
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Zealous Knight
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I suspect a lot of Reaper Bones hydras (pretty cool model, painting one right now and it well exceeds my expectations) with some modded DElves plastic infantry as handlers will be seeing the tabletop soon, with a 50 quid pricetag on GWs offering. Dang, that's a lot. Not that the current price is that much better but at least there wasn't much of an alternative, up until recently.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/18 21:01:17
Subject: Re:Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Focused Fire Warrior
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I have a hard time believing they'd make the core Warriors the same price point as the Black Guard, was expected $29-35 there ala Savage Orcs or older kits. Also I'm surprised there's no $85 model, similar to the Wraithknight or Carnosaur. I was expecting the Hydra to be $85. Makes me think these could be a tad fishy...
If they charge $50 for 10 core models on 20mm bases they're not going to see a huge increase in sales ( tbh I've never actually seen the Forsaken models on the table, they MUST be selling badly) I really want this whole "replace the range because the models are awful" strategy to work for them because I want new damn Tomb Kings core.
Edit: 50 quid is $85... whoops. Ok so there is an expensive one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/18 21:06:17
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Foxy Wildborne
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Bolognesus wrote:I suspect a lot of Reaper Bones hydras (pretty cool model, painting one right now and it well exceeds my expectations) with some modded DElves plastic infantry as handlers will be seeing the tabletop soon, with a 50 quid pricetag on GWs offering. Dang, that's a lot. Not that the current price is that much better but at least there wasn't much of an alternative, up until recently.
Yup. I got one just in case I ever start DE and it's an amazing cast.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/18 21:34:39
Subject: Re:Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Rapacious Razorwing
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silent25 wrote:Daigar over at Warseer claims to have received a pricing list from a reseller for the DE release.
Plastic Dark Elf Warrior Box £30
PLastic Dark Riders/Warlocks £25
Plastic Blackguard/Executioners £30
Plastic Coldone Chariot/Scroungerunner £25
Plastic Cauldron of Blood/Blood Throne £50
Plastic Hydra/Kraken £50
Plastic Witch Elf box £30
Just to compare to my prediction on page 3 of this thread:
silent25 wrote:Prediction for pricing:
1) NEW Plastic Dark Elf Warrior Box $50/40€/£30
2) NEW PLastic Dark Riders/Warlocks $40/35€/£25
3) NEW Plastic Blackguard/Executioners $50/40€/£30
4) NEW Plastic Coldone Chariot/Scroungerunner $40/35€/£25
5) NEW Plastic Cauldron of Blood/Blood Throne $85/65€/£50
6) NEW Plastic Hydra/Kraken $85/65€/£50
7) NEW Plastic Witch Elf box $50/40€/£30
Was hoping the warrior box would be cheaper, but it looks like $50/40€/£30 for 10 infantry is the new normal. The $50 for 10 was a worst case estimate base off the price for the Forsaken. Given GW just release new Space Marine Tacticals at $40 made me think the price would be more in that range. That means that should GW normalize their prices again, core infantry boxes will be going up ~65% to 100%. Ugh....
Only other hope is that these prices are actually just echos of my prediction bouncing back to me.
I think they are false. There is no army book listed either.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/18 21:40:39
Subject: Re:Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Infiltrating Prowler
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Cirronimbus wrote:I have a hard time believing they'd make the core Warriors the same price point as the Black Guard, was expected $29-35 there ala Savage Orcs or older kits. Also I'm surprised there's no $85 model, similar to the Wraithknight or Carnosaur. I was expecting the Hydra to be $85. Makes me think these could be a tad fishy...
If they charge $50 for 10 core models on 20mm bases they're not going to see a huge increase in sales ( tbh I've never actually seen the Forsaken models on the table, they MUST be selling badly) I really want this whole "replace the range because the models are awful" strategy to work for them because I want new damn Tomb Kings core.
Edit: 50 quid is $85... whoops. Ok so there is an expensive one.
All the kits my FLGS got in with the initial release have been sitting there ever since. Were marked down 25% and they are still sitting there. Some nice bits in there for conversions, but not at $50 or $37.50.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/18 22:00:29
Subject: Re:Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Morphing Obliterator
The Frigid North of Minneapolis
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silent25 wrote: Cirronimbus wrote:I have a hard time believing they'd make the core Warriors the same price point as the Black Guard, was expected $29-35 there ala Savage Orcs or older kits. Also I'm surprised there's no $85 model, similar to the Wraithknight or Carnosaur. I was expecting the Hydra to be $85. Makes me think these could be a tad fishy...
If they charge $50 for 10 core models on 20mm bases they're not going to see a huge increase in sales ( tbh I've never actually seen the Forsaken models on the table, they MUST be selling badly) I really want this whole "replace the range because the models are awful" strategy to work for them because I want new damn Tomb Kings core.
Edit: 50 quid is $85... whoops. Ok so there is an expensive one.
All the kits my FLGS got in with the initial release have been sitting there ever since. Were marked down 25% and they are still sitting there. Some nice bits in there for conversions, but not at $50 or $37.50.
If the prices quoted are accurate (and I suspect that they will be, even if they are guesses) then GW is once again going to get much less of my money. Last few releases I have waited until the bits re-sellers on eBay part out the boxes, and buying only a few things I want from the kits. If they priced things more reasonably, I'd buy whole kits.
Example: Canosaur. a fabulous kit, and one I seriously considered buying outright (though I dont play Fantasy at all) just for the cool bits. At $85, no damn way. I got the riders and a couple other decorative bits off eBay for ~$15-20. If the kit had been, say, ~$50-60, GW would have gotten three times the amount of money from me. I know that maybe in the end they got more money overall at that higher price point, but from the chatter here, I tend to doubt it.
-C6
PS-And oy vey are those Forsaken models ugly. FUGLY-ugly. Awful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/19 20:37:11
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Dakka Veteran
NoVA
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Just wondering from those that follow the rumors more closely than me...
But when do the WD pictures usually get leaked? Would it be this weekend?
I'm trying to plan out how much time I'll spend refreshing sites this weekend.
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Playing: Droids (Legion), Starks (ASOIAF), BB2
Working on: Starks (ASOIAF), Twilight Kin (KoW). Droids (Legion)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/19 21:07:01
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Stubborn Hammerer
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the lack of pictures is disheartening
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/19 21:11:26
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Rapacious Razorwing
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Pictures are usually tuesday-wednesday the week before the WD is out, and that is next week.
If we are lucky we get a few this weekend, but the really good pics not until the middle of next week.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/19 21:19:48
Subject: Re:Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I have a hard time believing the Warriors and Witch Elves would be 40,- euros for only 10 models. That would be a new level of rediculous.
We'll see though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/19 21:46:35
Subject: Re:Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Been Around the Block
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TBD wrote:I have a hard time believing the Warriors and Witch Elves would be 40,- euros for only 10 models. That would be a new level of rediculous.
We'll see though.
Are you new to GW games?
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curran12 wrote:I have a feeling that GW could include a free puppy and handjob with a new codex release and people would find some way to whine about that as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/19 23:28:32
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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[DCM]
Tzeentch's Fan Girl
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I'm less interested in pictures and more interested in rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 00:33:33
Subject: Re:Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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TBD wrote:I have a hard time believing the Warriors and Witch Elves would be 40,- euros for only 10 models. That would be a new level of rediculous.
We'll see though.
You should go take a look at the High Elf release from earlier this year and reconsider your opinion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 00:35:56
Subject: Re:Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Godless-Mimicry wrote: TBD wrote:I have a hard time believing the Warriors and Witch Elves would be 40,- euros for only 10 models. That would be a new level of rediculous.
We'll see though.
You should go take a look at the High Elf release from earlier this year and reconsider your opinion.
None of those were Core options though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 00:49:49
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Raging Rat Ogre
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I can very well believe it, if Corsairs stay priced as they are then we'll end up in a similar situation to Chaos warriors where there will be one very expensive core unit. Give the versatility of warriors I can well believe they'll take this route too. :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 03:08:04
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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It's been a long, busy, sad, week that also involved me coming down with what is known medically as a "cold" but I finally hammered out a compilation that hopefully makes this all easier to sort through:
http://www.talkwargaming.com/2013/09/dark-elves-rumor-roundup.html
Sorry for the delay.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 05:51:30
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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I have to say the new cauldron of blood kit looks amazing in both iterations.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 06:03:43
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Been Around the Block
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cincydooley wrote:I have to say the new cauldron of blood kit looks amazing in both iterations.
Do you have pictures?
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curran12 wrote:I have a feeling that GW could include a free puppy and handjob with a new codex release and people would find some way to whine about that as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 06:05:40
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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Not ones I'm allowed to share. Suffice it to say the new altar thing with the snake lady is like, 6 inches tall and looks elegant and deadly. It's pretty cool.
This is gonna be a lot like the Dark Eldar revamp. Lots of people are going to be happy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 06:08:24
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Nimble Mounted Yeoman
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What's the size of the 'Medusa' roughly?
Ogre sized?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 06:15:19
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Sniping Reverend Moira
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She's tall but thin. Maybe twice as tall as a regular witch but her base will need to be larger. Looks like she'll need a solid 30x30 at minimum to mount her without the altar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 06:28:20
Subject: Re:Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Dakka Veteran
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Scroungerunner
Hardly a name to inspire fear is it? The DE's are hear to scrounge you out of all your possessions
Surely Scourgerunner? That's far more in the GW Thesaurus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 12:11:58
Subject: Re:Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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warspawned wrote:Scroungerunner
Hardly a name to inspire fear is it? The DE's are hear to scrounge you out of all your possessions
Surely Scourgerunner? That's far more in the GW Thesaurus.
Probably, but I'm not responsible for 40k Radio's typos:
4) NEW Plastic Coldone Chariot/Scroungerunner(Pulled by horses)
I just try to get everything into some kind of sensical sorted order so it's easier to put together a complete mental picture of things.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 17:57:54
Subject: Re:Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote: Godless-Mimicry wrote: TBD wrote:I have a hard time believing the Warriors and Witch Elves would be 40,- euros for only 10 models. That would be a new level of rediculous.
We'll see though.
You should go take a look at the High Elf release from earlier this year and reconsider your opinion.
None of those were Core options though.
Indeed, that was my point.
I already expected 40,- for the Black Guard/Executioners, but 40,- for 10 Fantasy core troops...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 18:13:00
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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Witch Elves are no longer on the online store...
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 18:28:02
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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I've be fine with 20 for $50, as that is only a small price per model increase over the currents, and if it's only 10 of each weapon type then that will promote buying several boxes for those not inclined to wait for bits bundles to pop up.
If the prices are too outrageous, then I'll end up scrapping WFB altogether as there are plenty of new projects and games out there begging for my attention for less money.
I'd rather that not happen, as I love the game and DE in general, but WFB taking on 40k prices is getting out of hand.
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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 21:28:29
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Yet more Natfka changes to schedule
via an Anonymous Source
Dark Elves
First Month
Advanced order/white dwarf from Sat 28th Sept. (so the studio can talk about them at UK GD)
On shelves Sat 5th Oct.
-most of the plastics already mentioned-
Second month
Advanced order/White dwarf from Sat 26th Oct.
On shelves Sat 2nd Nov.
-even more plastic crack Inc. Shadowblade plastic clampack by far the best model of range IMHO
Release Schedule
September - 1st Dark Elves Advanced Orders/ On the Shelf October 5th
October - 2nd Dark ElvesAdvanced Orders/ On the Shelf November 2nd
November - Desolation of Smaug and dark elf army box pre-orders/ Released December 7th
December: Tyranids Pre-Orders/ Released January 4th
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/20 22:10:37
Subject: Dark Elf rumours (October release) (major update 8th September)
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Been Around the Block
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so the darkelves are going to be spread among 3 months? I call BS
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curran12 wrote:I have a feeling that GW could include a free puppy and handjob with a new codex release and people would find some way to whine about that as well.
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